Thought best to use a new discussion, re Green leaf medication

The same can be asked of the newly legalised state/s in America, what is their research saying??    Of course they are set up are they not for 'Medical prescription users only'...  So doctors are I would assume involved in validating a persons health and pain issues.  

Would be very interesting to delve into.  Keeping an open mind of course, there will be both positive and negative aspects to the whole shabang and usage of the naturally grown material.  Those guys over there are experts in the field, and of the growing and the varieties and their chemical compounds. 

Bear in mind, everything we eat, everything medical we swollow or apply to our skin and inhale 'is a chemical'...   derived originally from 'natural plant growth'....  People don't think about the originality of med's.  

I once could have come close to dying from taking a over the counter Sinus medication with an 'anti decongestant' in it.  I was experiencing my heart thumping so hard it felt like it would open my chest and neck up.  Also my urine was burning me like acid.  I couldn't think what in the world would do this, I began to dwelve into what has changed in the last week, what have I been eating lately maybe to do this. It then dawned on me the only thing different over the last week was the fact I had by that stage taken approx 3 tablets of this over the counter product.  I rang the chemist and explained what was happening.  He sternly said, 'stop taking it, and don't ever, ever take any medication with 'anti decongestant' in it.  It will be lethal to you.  Your having the warning signs.  He also mentioned something I hadn't heard of in the news of that fortnignt where a young teenager died only hours after taking medication, for his sinus issue.  It was the same problem 'anti decongestant'....    And that is simply bought over the counter, FDA aproved etc and all that jazz....  Like anything else we administer there will always be a positive story and a negative story.  If one can't eat peanuts, do the population all stop eating peanuts, by law???

Warm friendly hugs from me and high fives for sharing!...  

I had a really good day today till it turned out bad!  My naughty dog with No Ears when he escapes, escaped on my today and it was a major task trying to keep him in my line of sight in 'a Nature Reserve' which is huge, with several different walk ways, and loads of natural bush and trees in undulating area's...  Oh my gosh I was so close to tears as I struggled to try and lift my legs to run.  I was close to collapse when a kind jogger heard my plea to try and stop the dog, or even grab him..  I was so embarrassed with my dischevelled (spg?) state and lack of ability almost to communicate, but I managed to thank him so much, and apologised and explained my painful issue, so he understood that although I had only ran X distance, (which was a decent distance for me I tell ya!! I cannot run normally as my back and left leg won't allow me to move freely, so I am ungainly and very slow)...it was the reason my appearance and near collapse.  

Looks can be deceiving, but the chap was probably my age or a bit older, and he was fit!!   My younger cousin, only a little off 50 yrs is competing in big Iron man competitions! She only started about 4 yrs ago.. I'm so envious!  If I didn't have my issues I'd be doing the same!!   

Well after todays episode it's going to be a really hard and difficult week...tsk!  I can see my legs/feet and ankles are swelling already...grrrrr  Well it's now 2.45am here.. not been able to sleep, but I'm going to try putting my head down again and see if I can't nod off with half a sleeping tablet.  

Chat again later peoples...  Cyber hugs all x

Fibro is still relatively not an understood condition

http://www.myalgia.com/overviewB.htm

http://www.myalgia.com/Pain_amplification/Overview.htm

One of the specialists I saw here for awhile told me, 'there is a lot we do not know, a lot we know about BUT we don't know the wheres, the whys and the how to's.  We are not able to do biopsies to investigate these condtions because we would have to bury you afterwards.  We know that people suffer with certain conditions, and those are facts, but we are at a loss to know how to treat or cure them'.    He was very truthful and about a year later he retired.

Fibro is what it is, the pain receptors in the brain go haywire, hence anything and everything to do with the bodies sensors of any type of feeling can be scewed.  From a gentle velvet touch turns into a sandpaper feeling, hot n cold temps on the skin flare muscular reactions of stiffness and painful tendons, soft tissue etc.  Over exertion of muscles, tendons and the ligaments and the minor nerves flare up and with the flares is heat, pain, aches, aching pain and even swelling. The area's of your body that may have arthritis, rhuematoid (spg?) Oesto, or strained muscles, damaged bits anywhere even the head/neck to your finger and toe joints can and for me DO set off continuous pain all day everday, and the slightest movements aggrevate, even turning over in bed, sitting in one spot that is comfy and giving relief to the bod from the major player discomforts, leads to real full on stiffness.  You can feel the gravity in your body, the heaviness on your bones and joints can't you....   and 'our friend fatigue'....  My head and left side of my face cops pain and sometimes cold pain, slight numbness in area's on the left but it comes and goes.  

When in an ordinary situation of tweeking a back joint or disc, the usual pain reactions can feel like they are in your internal organ/s... misleading folk to think they may have stomach, kidney or liver, heart problems where as in fact it is coming from the neck, or spine.  A disc maybe ever so slightly worn, diseased etc.    Well it is still the same with or without Fibro.  Only the pain receptors in the brain can interpret all that into another aspect else where in your body.

Folk need to also think back to childhood, the major injuries your've had, weither diagnosed by doc's and treated or not.    I lived from a very young age with a smashed nose.  It is pushed up into my forehead.  Happened when I slipped down a concrete wall.  My front teeth got fixed but no-body checked my nose.  I couldn't sing in our group anymore, and sinus problems over the years wher horrendous.  near on 25 yrs later I couldn't take it anymore.  Surgery was fast, as the damage was huge when they saw on the CT what was unidentifiable..  Nose has no real bone or cartiledge left just splitters gel'd together now.  Loads more to but not important.  Things can be left for years, undiagnosed trauma can become painful situations for us as we get older.  Babies that smash their faces on coffee tables, floors, tumbles from prams etc, what ever contact to chin, nose and head affects all else.  Hence some folk wind up with Sinus issues later in life, snoring issues, a sore area of the neck.

A young lass I know of, falls into a empty pool aged approx 2 yrs.  Taken to docs identified a little concussed but is fine, go home.  about 25 yrs later and her neck pain has gotten worse over the few short years.  Go's to doc, Xray taken.. 'HOLY MOLY, and FAR OUT!'  Don't dare move your neck... lol...  What they found was horrendous.  She had been living with her neck so broken (fractured back on itself) that the slightest back knock or fall would kill her.   Her neck muscles would have come into play to support her neck all those years to keep it in place, but of course when she began to do other exercises using other neck muscles that weren't so used to being used BAM it would upset those that were rigidly supporting the neck, with little other flexibilty.  

So that's another story for you.  Because she'd been dealing with aches, pain and discomfort all her life and it was getting out of hand so much she couldn't handle it anymore there is nothing to say that the brain may well in time work against her now normal pain management.  She is definitely having surgery to have the neck firmly supported, probably fused in the position it's in, to alter it would probably kill her.

So Derek it is an open book...Fibro manifests in a myrid of ways in the body, from brain to organ (skin), muscles and all other disc's, ligaments etc anything that has 'nerves involved in it's construction'...  Areas of the brain are nerve enriched to, so to our inside organs.  Sorry I am repeating myself now. Best I get on with the day and try and do something.  I am ragged today, body thumping, hand and legs to feet are now swollen up with it.  (I only have one kidney, I donated one years back)....  hmmm  but kidney is working fine.   I won't be doing walkies today, after yesterdays physical escapade...   arrrrhG!..  (ha)

I may make a hot drink and sit looking at the canvas to see if I can spur up some energy and thought processes to apply some more paint....Frustrating time, but life goes on and you have to have these days to appreciate anyway that you are alive and able to sun soak, and do small things when able.

 Yeah they say to try and make pain your friend, well actually you can. You deal with it like you would a dear old friend that needs your help....

So be kind to yourself, considerate and respectful of everything about yourself now, as you would treat your bestest buddy in the world or your most beloved.  Remembering though to that everyone needs that 'respite time'...  to charge the mental battery when a tad drained coping...  It's only fair, that if that respite is needed or called for, it must happen for 'both you and your friend'...

(Respite also means, time for a caregiver to have time out to..)

Warm gentle hugs...  Life is good, everyday is a great day!  It's how we approach it in our 'compromised mental outlook'...  So take time to doodle with an art and craft or music or reading, knitting or crochet... Whatever your joy is... it helps to distract the mind over body, even if practiced just a tinsey bit every now and then. Sometimes you my well have those days you don't want or cant sleep for your pure bliss of enjoying your chosen 'time out tool'.... hahaha..  ( In this case you must also pace or you can over do it..like anything else)  Doodle art work can really help relax the brain, just as much as loud or soft music... that's a fact!  I have done it, still do it (Oil painting)  and advocate it always.  The Doctors will agree with you, they agreed with me when I told them.  

And it's because you are doing it out of 'Pleasure and interest, the satisfaction of making and creating. The not being under pressure to appease anybody or any boss with time restraints etc building up the need to succeed and finish to deadlines'..  Stress is a killer when it is not tamed or ruled out altogether!  

We can to a point control our Pain anxieties because we now know 'what our condition is, the name of it, that it is recognised in the medical realms.'  Well those that have managed to be recognised in the Medical world as Fibro sufferers.   We are NOT some days looking great and telling porkies about ourselves..'  

 do feel so so bad for those that are still in limbo with their chronic pain issues and not being recognised under that umbrella. 

Oops I am waffling again...  best I get on and give you dudes and dudettes  a visual rest up.. hahaha  Hope your brain isn't hurting to much...hahahaha  me and my essays...  :-))

Please Moderators be kind and don't delete it and the Links are Medical info helpful to the sufferers...  p l e a s e....allow me to share

I hope you all have a brilliant day, fingers crossed for a cure one day

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