Tramadol is not evil.

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Tramadol does not have any malicious intent to get you 'hooked' or 'addicted'.

Tramadol provides a reliable source of relief to many pain sufferers and patients with other medical problems. The VARIABLE in all this ... is the individual patient, everyone's body makeup is different and so will react and produce different side effects with every drug they take. The only way to find out how your body will react is to give the prescribed drug a try, preferably for a couple weeks if this will be a long-term drug and if it doesn't suit you talk to your doctor. They most likely can find an alternative that will suit you. That's one of the reasons why there are so many drugs that do the same thing. wink

As for not knowing the possibilities of what might happen - there's only two people you can blame, one - your doctor for not giving you some important facts and two - yourself for not researching your prescription online.

Personally I think doctors even on the NHS should take more time to spell out the common effects and if it can be addictive but I do understand that they don't usually have the time. This isn't going to change anytime soon though, so...

There is a plethora of information online, on any prescription drug and it will tell you everything you need to know before you take it. Some websites, like drugs.com, even have an Interactions Checker which you can input all your medications into and check if they will react badly. It's very cool and I even was able to bring a bad mix up to my doctor who was able to clarify that the short amount of time I was taking the new drug would be ok with my regular prescription.

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Tramadol is a synthetic (man made) opiate. It does not mix well with natural opiates such as cocodamol as one person was complaining about in this forum. Always check with your doctor if you feel uncomfortable and always take prescriptions as advised. If you start mixing things up and not understanding the chemistry behind it then what do you expect?

COMMON SIDE EFFECTS: Constipation; diarrhea; dizziness; drowsiness; dry mouth; headache; increased sweating; indigestion; mild itching; nausea; trouble sleeping; vomiting; weakness. Constipation seems to be the most common and would advise a gentle laxative.

If you have any SERIOUS SIDE EFFECTS (see following) then go to A&E or see the doctor the next day depending on how bad it is, stop taking the Tramadol until you can get medical advice:Severe allergic reactions (rash; hives; itching; difficulty breathing; tightness in the chest; swelling of the mouth, face, lips, or tongue; unusual hoarseness); burning, numbness, or tingling; chest pain; confusion; difficult or painful urination; disorientation; excessive sweating; fainting; fast or irregular heartbeat; fever; hallucinations; loss of coordination; mood or mental changes (eg, depression, agitation); red, blistered, swollen, or peeling skin; seizures; severe dizziness or light-headedness; severe nausea, vomiting, or diarrhea; severe or persistent headache; slow or shallow breathing; suicidal thoughts or behaviors; tremor; vision problems; wheezing.

I DON'T WANT TO BECOME ADDICTED: Well most people don't. If your condition will be temporary then consider asking for Codeine (a natural opiate) which doesn't work as well but will help relieve some of the pain. Always take paracetamol at the same time you take any opiate, my NHS doctors have always told me this, saying that they both work better together than just the opiate alone and in my experience this is true. Also when you feel the pain is minimal to moderate, try taking just paracetamol and skipping a dose of your opiate when possible. Once you do this more often than not you can either realize that you can live with minimal pain or only take the opiate sporadically as needed.

If you have a long term condition like me, then I'll tell you what my doctor in the US told me when I told her I didn't want to become addicted. First, she said, you're only an addict if you're taking the drug to get a high, otherwise you're just dependent. Then she told me I can either take the drug to alleviate the pain and get some normal things done on a daily basis or don't take it and live with a pain that will most likely prevent me from leaving my bed and become agitated and irritated with everything and everyone because of my relentless pain. She said there is no shame in become dependent and that when the time came to stop there would be a safe period of weaning the drug and a plan for the withdrawal. I added that most NHS doctors are ambivalent towards things like this and she said, then demand it. I did and I was helped, no NHS doctor ever judged me for being dependent and it does seem like they deal with this often. They are not as organised as in the U.S. where you can get a 'kick pack' which contains valium, supplements and many useful tips but my NHS doctor did prescribe me valium for 4 days which was enough to get over the 'hump' and I researched and procured the other supplements and tips I needed online.

WHY YOU BECOME DEPENDENT: In plain speak, Tramadol does the job of making your body feel good and does it so well that it relieves the overabundant amount of pain your going through because of your medical condition. Once your body realizes it doesn't have to do this job anymore, it will stop, that's when your body has become 'dependent'. When you stop taking the Tramadol and your body hasn't yet taken it's 'job' back, you feel withdrawal symptoms because there is nothing making you feel good. The withdrawal will end once your body takes back it's normal job of releasing the chemicals which make you feel good.

HOW TO OVERCOME THE WITHDRAWAL PERIOD: If you have become dependent Tramadol and you most likely have if you've been taking it for a long time, it's almost always best to consult with your doctor about a withdrawal plan. They can help give you a plan to wean the drug and also be there for when you need muscle relaxers if you need them once you stop the drug. If they are not helpful, see another doctor, rinse and repeat (especially if you're on NHS!).

Even better - What you can do is research all this on the internet but I will include this one link because I felt it was the one who helped me the most when I went through it. Not just the info but the people who commented and gave support. There are many forums that will do the same thing, find one which has active supportive members (and a plan you feel comfortable with) and I promise you will feel better about being able to get feedback from people who have felt what you are going through. Actually I'm going to link the process I used for withdrawal, it's from the same site and you can explore that further if you want or just Google 'opiate withdrawal forum' for support and plans.

http://www.vicodinwithdrawal.org/alternative-medicine/thomas-recipe-opiate-detox

Oh and I should also warn that you will come across a lot of people who don't know what they are talking about, but you should be able to spot them pretty quick,. Just ignore them, find good info and support, that's the best thing to do. smile

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I hope this is more helpful than not. I'm not sure why people come here to complain about a drug. The drug has been well tested and it's not dangerous. However being ill-informed about a drug, how you take it and the possibilities ...well that certainly can be.

Best of wishes to everyone struggling with their conditions, keep looking towards the future! Ronni <3>

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    "Tramadol is not evil" being an inanimate object niether is an AK47. Thank god the goevernment have resheduled this drug this year 2014 to a shedule 3 CD.  You say "There is a plethora of information online, on any prescription drug and it will tell you everything you need to know before you take it." Well a lot of this was misinformation because doctors have now been forced to stop dishing this drug out like smarties with little consern or knowledge of the real addiction potential, or as you prefer to call it in your case dependency. You go on to say  "The drug has been well tested and it's not dangerous." Well the UK government don't agree with you. Did you know the manufactures put this out as a non addictive substance and doctors swalloed it hook line and sinker. The addiction to this stuff is as bad as the dexedrine epedemic of the 50s 60s. You need to stop believing all you read, the proof of the puding is in the eating, overwhelming evidence has turned the governments head on this big time.
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      I know that in your brother's case it is an issue, but you are talking about taking 30-40 a day....that is pretty extreme.  In my case Tramadol gave me my life back.  I was getting only 4 hours oif sleep at a time at most and would get up and find myself walking in a circle, crying, while waiting for my hydrocodone to kick in. I have never abused Tramadol, I used it as perscribed and it worked.  It didn't make me a stupid drooling zombie--which the hydrocodone did--and I stopped being so depressed I didn't want to ever leave the house because I hurt so bad and hated the hydro fog.  It truly did give me my life back.  It is by no means as bad as you feel it is.  I don't for a minute believe any doctor is perscribing 800 tablets a month do use as desired, your brother has to be buying them on the street. I am not saying they aren't something to be wary of, just that it's not black and white as you seem to see it.  I may have killed myself if it hadn't been for Tramadol taking away the pain as it did. I was heading that way.
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      I think i've missed some of this discussion (Steve1953's brother).

      The words Quack and Fool (I'm being polite here) come to mind, and the question "is the pharmasist blind" is asked.800 a month and taking 30-40 a day.There are "doctors" on the internet who will prescribe them without meeting the punter, I know this because I was approached by e-mail via this site not so long ago. I didn't take up his "heart felt offer"eek.

      I get 100 at a time and they last me about a month and a half. I manage my pain down to a tollerable level and only usualy dose myself when I have nothing to occupy myself with and the pain becomes unbearable.

      I start with one tablet and if necessary increase after an hour till the level is tollerable, I have been known to take 3 tabs in 2 hours, and I take an Amitriptyline tablet (good for nerve pain) last thing at night.

      By taking it only when the pain level is very high I feel I am in control of the drug and not the other way around, I am neither a dribbling addict or a brain dead moronic zombie. I live a pretty normal life now but before Tramadol there were times when I wondered I would be able to carry on,

      It's not the drug at fault but the people who misuse and/or missell them.

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    In June 2014 badly damaged my shoulder and needed surgery hence being on Tramadol. This weekend I forgot to get more tramadol from my GP. All I can say is that the weekend has been horrific I have had all the side effects you can imagine loss of appetite insomnia (it's currently 512 am) as I write this been up since 210 am having dozed off just after midnight. I haven't slept all weekend and planning on going to the GP this morning. To be honest not sure whether to go back on them and take the pain of "cold turkey". I've been off work since June due to this injury but planning to go back to work in the next 4-5 weeks and cannot be on this drug by then. I have researched the drug and having known what I know now wished I had come off them earlier. I'm currently having weekly physiotherapy on my shoulder hence still being on the drug along with ibuprofen. I shall speak to GP today and see what the best course of action. I am a strong willed person and not the addictive type but concerned how you are not warned about this drug when you are prescribed. It had been described as "Evil" drug and I can relate to this but I am a strong believer that it is the individual which determines what path they take with drug 
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      Hi Bubba, if you can cope with the withdrawals I suggest you try not to go back on Tramadol. I have tried getting off this drug recently and managed 37 days, which most of that has been in bed! I suffered terrible withdrawals and the restless legs was one of the worst things I have experience! I also suffered with very dark moods and felt very depressed. This is just my personal experience and I could go on and tell you all the negative that I went through, but I won't do that as you may be ok. Unfortunately, I have gone back on Tramadol 2 days ago as I couldn't take anymore. Within one hour after taking 2x50mg I felt perfectly 'normal' again and could function! I don't know what I'm going to do, but I also need to go back to work to support myself, so for now I am staying on Tramadol which I am sad about!

      I really hope all goes well for you, but if you need more support just message me. Good luck x

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    I Just joined this site.  Can you explain what an NHS Doctor is?
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      NHS doctor is a marvelous British invention, a national health service doctor. Free to all as and when needed funded from tax.

      We don't need health insurance or money, we just need to be unwell and the doctor fixes us free of charge.

      Great huh!

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      Thank you,  how do you find the Doctors?  Are they educated in the same way a Dr. would be in the United States?  Are they qualified to prescribe medications?
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      They are just ordinary  doctors the same as the American breed, it's just that in the UK things tend to be a little more civilised.

      The NHS is way the largest health care provider in UK. Some of the doctors do practice privately as well as doing the NHS work, because they can charge what they like instead of having to accept the very high salleries that the NHS pays as their only source of income.

      If you are in the UK and have say, a car accident, the ambulance that attends together with the paramedics will be supplied by the NHS and they will take you to a hospital that is NHS where you will receive the best possible medical treatment and the best equipment used by the best doctors and it will not cost you anything because it's all on the NHS. So, if one feels unwell one just visits the doctor, or, if one is to unwell to attend a telephone call to the surgery will usually bring a doctor to your home.

      Any accident or medical emergency, say a heart attack, broken leg, etc.... can be dealt with by a visit to A&E at the local hospital, or, by telephoning 999 or 911 an ambulance will be despatched post haste.

      AND IT'S ALL FREE.

      Of course, it's not perfect and it has it's critics but generally speaking it works well.

      Does that not sound like a good way of doing things.?

       

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      yes it does!  Thank you for taking the time to explain.  I was researching Tramadol online because my husband suffers from wide spread pain, some of which is caused by arthritis and were not completley sure where it is coming from.... tramadol is the only thing that has helped him.  Our Doctor will not prescribe it so we end up getting it through an online pharmacy and the cost has skyrocketed, insurance wont cover it because our approbed physician isn't prescribing it.  We are frusterated.  
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    Firstly thank you for the comprehensive Tramadol information asi found it very helpful. I suffer from chronic pain as a result of surgery on both my knees to correct patella multracking in 2010. The surgery was not a success subsequently I constantly have severe pain in my knees and lower back. I have been off work since February 2014 and I am not getting better. Initially I was prescribed dihydrocodeine and amitriptyline 20 mg and this worked Ok. However Dihydrocodeine started itching my body badly despite the antihistamines prescribed. 3 months ago, dihydrocodeine was replaced by Tramadol 50 mg x3 a day. I quickly became addicted to the drug. Last week, my GP reduced the dose to one a day to wean me off it. I am now suffering with withdraw symptoms that include chest pain, cough, runny nose and eyes, pain all over my body, insomnia, lack of energy etc. yesterday I telephoned my surgery in desperation to be given something to ease the pain. The duty GP told me that she cannot give me another pain killer until I am free from Tramadol. I am due for a review with my GP in two weeks. I am worried how I am going to cope with the withdrawals as I am not particularly a strong willed person. However,I am going to access the website you recommended for more support.😫
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      I'm currently being weaned off tramadol by my GP and I am down to one a day another 4 days I'm off thank god. I have had the symptons you are suffering for the past 3 weeks. However I would rather this than being kept on tramadol. My opinion is to get the problem/injury sorted tramadol only mask the pain. I feel better for being off it soon as you will 
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    My wife bought some OTC ointment from an on line pharmacy and they sent a welcoming e-mail which I looked at.

    This pack/brochure contained a list of the various services they supply, amongst which are an on line doctor who gives (or sells ) an on line consultaion, the supply of private prescriptions and the filling of said prescriptions. Guess what, TRAMADOL is one of the potions they offer with this service.

    So    presumably almost anybody can "see" the quack and get some pretty heavy duty pills. It is a uk site so they are offering controlled drugs on what is virtually an open market. And people wonder why we have a drugs problem in this country when such irresponsible companies exist.

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    It is so irresponsible for tramadol to be sold over th internet, IMO.  That is where the people strugging with higher doses seem to be getting it.  I was curious and looked once--they also charge more than triple what I pay for the Tramadol that comes from CVS.  I think they are trying to put an end to that.  My GP said something about it being classified in a new category.  What that will do to the internet sales I have no idea.  It sounded like it would stop it--though what happns to those addited who get it that way?  That too creates an uinfair problem because if you don't taper off it is truly miserable. 
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    I don't know how a drug can be 'evil' ? My experience of Tramadol is it is great for neurpathic pain but I have a splitting headache every day for which I have been prescribed sodium valproate. There is no cure all unfortunately.
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      Odd that, Ive been taking it for neurpathic pain a few years now, and guess what, I haven't had a headache since I started.

      Steve.

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