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Turp, again

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steven43881
steven43881

Had a Turp almost 6 years ago. It's a feeling of being raped and you don't know it's happening until after it happens. It happens so fast to you and then it's done. How do men cope with it that have had it done in their late 50's or early 60's? Also can Prostatitis issues bring men into having turps done even though they have urinary issue? In my case I had bladder stones, a prominent middle lobe was discovered during the Turp and my urine flow rate was only 3.2 cc/ sec. Still I had feeling of a" golf ball " which brought me to a decision to have the Turp done. Anyone with similar experiences??? There must be someone who can identify.  

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  • ES28567
    ES28567 steven43881

    Posted

    Hi Steven,

    After your graphic description, just wondering what symptoms you have now that wiuld drive you to have yet another TURP? Is there a reason you can not do PVP (green light) or Holep? (Not sure those procedures will feel any less like rape).

    Unfortunately, I must choose something for my large prostate before I can have HIFU and I must say I don't find your comments very encouraging.

  • steven43881
    steven43881

    Posted

    No contradictory responces. Only people with similar experiences.
  • grant66038
    grant66038 steven43881

    Posted

    I don't think it is healthy to state you only want experiences from people that feel the outcome of the TURP operation for them is as bad as your own.

    Mind you, you don't state what the problems were.

    It is a fairly routine operation, and for the most part, people come through it fine and with few issues although retrograde ejaculation, either partial or complete is very common.

    I had mine several months ago and so far, it fixed the blockage issue although I still urinate more often than I would like.

    It hasn't affected sex but I do get partial retrograde ejaculation.

    I think it is healthy to contribute experiences here. I'm sure other people will have had bad experiences also, such is medicine. Every patient is different and doctors can make mistakes too in both the diagnosis and operation.

    • steven43881
      steven43881 grant66038

      Posted

      You are lucky if you only had partial retrograde ejaculation. May I please ask what your symptoms were. As said mine was a very, very slow urine stream ( 3.2 cc/ sec,),  bladder stones and my postvoiding residual urine was 250 cc.   Yours sincerely,

                                                       Steve

        I do feel like mine was rushed into. That's the only point I am trying to make by starting this conversation. How long was your wait, Grant? My Dr. scheduled the turp the day after I did the urine flow. 

    • Dubby
      Dubby grant66038

      Posted

      Thanks to you and everyone else for posting with your progress and condition. For me it's probably just around the corner but I'm trying to cross my "T"s and dot my "I"s in order to be ready in selecting the right proceedure.

      Dubby 

  • grant66038
    grant66038 steven43881

    Posted

    I had trouble p*ssing especially at night and it got to the point that I had to take tablets or I'd be in trouble. Daytime urination was becoming an issue also.

    I took tablets for years, mini-pressin, not the testosterone reducing tamulosin. I had a high PSA at one point so I had the prostate drilled for cancer biopsy but it was clean. That was about a year ago. I decided then to get the flow checked and all that. They confirmed it was blocked using a willie cam and then did a flow check which showed slow flow and about a third of the bladder retained.

    The doctor was quite careful about making sure an operation was necessary although it is also up to the patient to decide if they have had enough inconvenience to warrant an operation and the known side effects such as retrograde ejaculation.

    I'm in two minds whether the operation was worth the trouble but it is very nice not to have to take tablets every night just so I can pee, even then by morning, it was getting difficult to pee again, so sometimes I needed to take more.

    I understand people want alternatives such as PAE but side effects of PAE include a 0.3% of stroke which is extremely serious and also the operation frequently doesn't work requiring more than one attempt.

    • paul96555
      paul96555 grant66038

      Posted

      When you say your PSA was high, may I ask how high ?  Mine was 16.92 before biopsy, then 9.7 a few days later (I had changed diet to perfect anti-cancer diet that is said to suppress PSA - orange pepper, milled flax, nuts, broccoli, and very little else).  Biopsy was clear.  Internet seemed to indicate that a PSA of above 10 rarely means prostatitis, always cancer (e.g. google "Problems with the PSA The Prostate Centre" and look at lowermost graph), but urologist said that's not true and it is common to see PSA as high as 20 in men who don't, as the next year or two turn out never mind the biopsy, actually have even low grade cancer. Biopsy said chronically inflamed tissue with no cancer (13 cores taken).  He couldn't say if the chronically inflamed tissue would resolve, so I went with HOLEP 8 days ago, and await results of the histology on the tissue removed - middle of prostate so may not show cancer even if it's there - and, in 3 weeks (4 weeks after op), a PSA test which he tells me should be low.  I still worry about having a PSA of 16.9 in what is quite a small prostate (22 cc), as high PSA in a tiddler is worse than high PSA in a whopper; but apart from the above steps to come, nothing to be done.  It might be reassuring to me and others with high PSA issues, to hear of anyone else's high PSA that didn't lead to a diagnosis of either mild or aggressive PCa ?  (just to "prove" that what my uro' said, is true !)
  • roy88359
    roy88359 steven43881

    Posted

    I have to say my TURP experience was pretty much like that of Grant. Prior to the op I had a catheter for seven months and had been on dosaxomin for a few months longer. Op carried out late afternoon, Next day flushing until evening but catheter remained in overnight. Next morning 6 am catheter removed and peed copiously into bottle. Had to do so three times during the morning with each output measured and was given OK to go home that afternoon. Recovery went almost exactly as described in a leaflet I was given prior to the op. So, I couldn't really say anything negative about the whole process. Yes, I do have RE and there was a small  E.coli infection about 5- 6 weeks after the op but that was cleared up. Went for urine flow test about six weeks after op and had a max flow of 15ml/sec which the nurse considered very satisfactory and as far as I can tell it has remained much the same some six months later. I am now 84 so whether I will be around for another TURP in 10 years time is not something that bothers me.
  • robin25259
    robin25259 steven43881

    Posted

    What do you mean it happens so fast. In New Zealand you firstly have a Cystoscopy, then pee flow test, then a meeting with a Surgeon and in fact my process has taken 6 weeks. At each stage I was asked if that was what Ai wanted and then have had to sign to agree to a TURP.
    • steven43881
      steven43881 robin25259

      Posted

      Was only 59 years old when done. First saw the doctor in early Dec., took CT of abdomen and pelvis, took x- ray, did flow test. Then did the turp. It was Christmas holiday. Did flow test on the 21st of Dec- told me he would give me a window and did the turp on the 22nd of Dec
  • grant66038
    grant66038 steven43881

    Posted

    It is maybe how they do medicine in the US. It is dictated by time and cost and insurance company procedures. One of the reasons people die frequently from painkiller overdose in the US is it is more efficient to give someone six months supply all in one hit (as it were).
    • steven43881
      steven43881 grant66038

      Posted

      Grant, may I ask how old are you? I am just up out of bed reading my responses.              Steve
  • grant66038
    grant66038 steven43881

    Posted

    Hi Steven,

    58 years old. I suppose it is relevant. I'm a relative Spring Chicken for TURP but still old...smile

    • steven43881
      steven43881 grant66038

      Posted

      I feel so much better talking to you Grant. I hope you don't mind if i post a little later!             Steve
    • steven43881
      steven43881 grant66038

      Posted

      Hi Grant,

         Some drs. are telling me I had Prostatitis before I even had turp done. Over 6 + years ago and I am still getting pain in that general area and I have muscle spasms all the time down there. It is getting me quite down and I would like it to go away. I know I have to work on it, but what's a person to do. I AM taking pelvic floor physical therapy right now and then if that doesn't work, my Dr. and I will work on a solution from that point on. I try to stay positive, but sometimes I get discouraged and then post something online here. Just trying to reach out to others who may be in similar circonstances !!

        Steve  

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