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So my doc wants me to increase to 30mg after seeing her today after a breakdown, as I'm not improving at all. If anything I'm worse. They worked in the past but not this time so far. đ
Today I managed to convince my self I was going crazy and losing the plot completely. It's really scary.
it doesnt help that my memory is shocking too.
Anyone else felt better after increasing?
Am I going crazy?
Is my wierd detatched feeling/brain fog anxiety?
As I never had it on citalopram last time. And that's the cause of my going crazy feelings
and why does it feel like things I done this morning happened days ago? it's making me worry I'm truly losing the plot
Pretty panicky about the increase what do you guys think?
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Potatoghost
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6 weeks 20mg I should say
lois95799 Potatoghost
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if increasing is a must for you can you try 25 first .it will be more kind to your nervous system.
lois95799
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or reduce?i reduced because 20 was unbearable
Potatoghost lois95799
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I dunno what to do lois x do you remember ages ago when I came off mirtazipine I only started improving once I got to 40mg and like an idiot I panicked at 12 weeks after having a blip and changed đ
also do you know about the other stuff I'm experiencing as you are full of infinite wisdom ⤠I know you will know too x
what is wrong with me why cant i get better đđ
Potatoghost
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I was on 10mg for about a year when I first started and they didn't do anything at all. I stayed on them because it just became habit I think x when I went to 20mg it really helped x not no more though x
lois95799 Potatoghost
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ok then do five at a time .that way it wont hit you full force.
Potatoghost lois95799
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that's a good idea. oh god I'm turning into somebody else we know arent I đ
nina87533 Potatoghost
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I believe the reason for your poor memory is because youâre not fully in the present at the moment. Youâre too busy dwelling on your anxiety/depression, so your mind isnât fully there when youâre doing things. The same thing is going on with me. I thought it was the pills at first as well but itâs just me being too caught up in how Iâm feeling instead of what Iâm doing.
The thing is you need a plan and stick to it. Too many people online are going to tell you so many different things; increase your dose, decrease your dose, switch antidepressants, etc.
Form a plan, with your doctors aid, and stick with it. If the 20mg helped even the slightest when you started them, then chances are they will help more but you just might need a higher dose this time.
Try the 30mg for 4-6 weeks. And if you have improvement at all, stick with them! Donât mess with the dose. If they make you feel worse or no improvement at all, lower the dose then switch meds. But just stick with a plan. Itâs the quickest way to recovery.
Donât freak yourself out too much with side effects of increasing either. In most cases the side effects you think you are experiencing (like the poor memory) are actually just side effects from your anxiety/depression, not the meds themselves.
Potatoghost nina87533
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thank you for your reply it does really help đ
knowing that the memory thing is not just me and it can happen to other people x
yeah 20mg just isn't cutting it this time at all. I know it's still early but today was horrific and have never felt that bad before and that was scary x I wanted to try an increase before switching.....again x I'm hoping it works x
what dose are you on again nina? like I said my memory is terrible đ
I feel doomed and trapped no matter what I decide to do so I really don't know what the best way to go is x
this is truly horrible x how are you? x
nina87533 Potatoghost
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I know exactly how you feel. My mind is always racing with different solutions and ideas. Sometimes I think my pills are whatâs making me depressed and I need to come off them, then I may start to think I need a new med altogether.
Iâm on 40mg at the moment. Usually I always went to 30mg if I went through a bad spell, but after five weeks I didnât noticed much improvement. So Iâm going to try 40, stick with it for 4-8 weeks, and if it works; great, and if it donât then I know itâs not the pill for me. Iâll then lower it, come off it to see if being off the meds altogether helps and if it donât, then Iâll try something new. Thatâs my current plan anyways.
tamsin07572 nina87533
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sounds like a sensible plan. I too wonder if the pills are making me more depressed - I have been so emotional and weepy. i dont remember getting like this last time. Read some thread yesterday about a girl who went back on same AD for anxiety and it didnt work at all after 13 weeks so she has been put on clonidine by the psych!Hadnt heard of that one. we just have to remember that there are loads of options for us if these dont work. My psych works a lot with acute/severe people and he said in the vast majority of cases people find something that works for them xx
toria_07298 Potatoghost
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p i get that memory thing but as i start to settle it improves, please be careful changing doses x
tamsin07572 Potatoghost
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Hi P im so sorry youve had such a crap day! Agree with Nina you need a plan. The 20 isnt working so go to 30 for 4-6 weeks then evaluate. Have you still got diazepam? Have you been taking it? Once i started taking the lorazepam regularly it really helped. The anxiety calmed down, wasnt so intense and i was able to see things in perpective a bit more and think about and do things to help myself. Did the doc say anything else to reassure you? i am going to see psych today and i know we will also discuss going up to 30. He said anxiety often needs higher doses, he was surprised 20 had worked for me last time. Just hang in there - focus on how strong you are for getting to this point.
nina87533 tamsin07572
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Just wondering how long youâve been taking the lorazapram? And what dose?
I have some as well which I take about 4-5 times a week but Iâm terrified of becoming hooked on it or experiencing withdrawals afterwards.
tamsin07572 nina87533
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hi Nina i was exactky like you but my psych convinced me it was ok. Have been on it for about a month or so. First 10 days on 0.5 in the evening. Then 2 and a half weeks or so on 0.5 in the morning and 0.5 in the evening. Now back to 0.5 in the morning. Psych said i will need to taper off but doesnt think it will be a problem. He says he puts people on it all the time for short term use and theyve all come off it fine. it made a big difference.
nina87533 tamsin07572
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I take 1mg before bed. Not every night, but usually after a bad day or a bad evening. So like I said, around 4 times a week. Only been doing so for two weeks now, but Iâm still worried about becoming addicted or having them lose their effectiveness.
tamsin07572 nina87533
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ive had no tolerance issues and have gone from 2 a day to one without any issues
nina87533 tamsin07572
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Thatâs good to hear. When I was first put on citalopram 4 years ago, my doctor at the time prescribed me 1mg every night for a month. Took them for a little over 3 weeks before stopping but didnât have any withdrawals.
Afterwards I heard all these horror stories online about benzos, and wondered if I knew that back then if I would have took them to begin with.
tamsin07572 nina87533
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i know i was so scared after reading all those stories - still am to be honest but i trust my doc
lois95799 nina87533
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mind over body.best regards
tamsin07572 lois95799
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just looked at the benzo thread on this forum and it does look pretty scary coming off. Doc told me today that i can keep using 0.5 a day for another month but now in thinking perhaps i should stop them now
lois95799 tamsin07572
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i would not pay attention to that benzo chat.i took for one year with no problem stopping no withdrawls.cold turkey.and iam sure your doctor is not going to contribute to any type of dependence or addiction with higher milligrams.
nina87533 tamsin07572
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Iâve made the mistake of going on there as well.
The weird thing is thereâs posts saying some people been on them for a year or longer, and after a slow taper, they never had issues. Then you have some people who are saying theyâve been on them for 1-3 weeks and got people yelling at them to stop taking them ASAP because theyâll ruin their life.
I think a lot of it comes down to how high of a dose youâre on. If youâre increasing the dose, and taking them more often than you should. You arenât doing either of those things so I highly, highly doubt youâll experience anything. Like I said before, I was on them a little over three weeks at 1mg a night and just stopped them. No taper, nothing. And I never had a issue.
Once your antidepressant kicks in, itâll make getting off them that much easier anyways. Which is what I think happened for me.
Also if you donât need to take the 0.5 for another full month, donât. Just take them for another week or so and when you feel like you can do without them, stop. But at least you know theyâre there if needed.
tamsin07572 nina87533
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thanks Nina good advice. The doc has said that I shouldnt just stop ill need to taper as ive been on then a while now but at least i know theres the option of a very slow taper if i do need it. i went from 0.5 twice a day to just once a day without any issues so hopefully it will be ok