Vertigo Menieres

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So I have Menieres and I had a violent attack on the 22nd I woke up to spinning.  Laid there for 4 hours on one side.  I have had all the test MRI so no brain tumors etc.  What my issue is I get so depressed and anxious after these attacks maybe it is waiting for the next one which for me rarely happens.  But the in balance and anxiety like I said stays....How does anyone else with this problem keep their spirits up.  I dread being around the grand kids much less shopping or anything.  I have shut down in the past and I am so done with this 30 years of hell on earth.  IT has truly taken every thing away from me.  What I am trying to say is am I the only one that just does not care anymore if I live or die. I think this disease has won.

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    Please don't give up. Your family will be devastated.

    I've only had labyrinthitis for 5 months and my life has gone from work, socialising, walking etc to nothing!! On top of the vertigo I have chronic Anxiety which causes nausea and terrible knots in my tummy.

    I spend 90% of my day alone but look forward to my partner coming home from work. I feel like giving up but I have a daughter who is 22yrs old and I couldn't leave her.

    I've had no luck with doctors. They fob me off with tablets and say it will get better but there's no real improvement. I live in hope that I can get to a point where I can go out and be normal again even if it's only 50% . I will not give up on this. Stay strong and maybe one day you will realise you are still here for a reason. My thoughts are with you.

    Helen.

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    Don't give up, I had some down times when all of this started.  And yes it can suck.  But life is made up or trials and difficulties, this is our challenge and it could always be worst.  There are much worst issues than balance dizziness and hearing loss.  I have found that if I stop focusing only on the negatives and focus on positives and remember that I am still alive and the drop attacks suck but they could be worst.  If you give into depression it will only get worse.  If you have faith in Christ then I recommend that you focus on that and the fear and anxiety will lessen in other areas. You need to have hope that life will get better, that isn't saying that MD will get better but you will find ways to enjoy life and thus lowering the priority of MD.  I find that I rarely ever think about it.  Would I like to be more stable sure, would I like hear better out of my ear sure.  Is life more important than both of those yes.  Make sure you are staying active, otherwise you will just focus on the problems.  I find that if I am outside I rarely ever notice my symptoms, try that see if it helps.  Life is hard, but it is worth fighting for.  I care if you die and I don't even know you.  If you need someone to talk to you can always talk to me.  I can do this all day ;-).

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    Jonese and Helen, the best thing you both could do for yourselves is to see a psychiatrist or psychologist who can help you cope with anxiety and stress.  Psychologically MD can easily destroy our self confidence by creating debilitating anticipatory anxiety.  All MD patients suffer this emotional handicap.  It's vitally important to seek help before you become habituated to the anxiety.  There are meds that can do miracles for controlling your anticipatory anxiety.  Please make use of them.

    Also, today there are things that each of us can do to reduce and even eliminate vertigo.  If you have read other threads on this forum you know by now that vertigo (in vast majority of cases) can be controlled by non surgical and surgical protocols.  The normal steps are:

    1.  anxiety and stress management via professional help and meds

    2.  elimination of salt, caffeine, alcohol

    3.  diuretics to pull fluid from inner ear.

    4.  allergy and non allergic rhinitis management (50% of MD patients have allergies as reason for their MD)

    5.  take betahistine....usually a minimum of 16mg 3x/day....some folks need higher dose

    6.  Steroid injections

    7.  gentamycin injections.  This should be last protocol after all the others.  There are side effects to this surgical procedure.

    Good luck

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      Tanny I saw a psychiatrist and I am ok according to them other than anxiety.  I did try counseling and the counselor knew nothing about Meiners in fact I had to educate him on the disease while sitting there dizzy. I really did not have a good experience with that and to top it off him and my doctor refuse to give me anything to help with anxiety and hep me sleep. So needless to say I have had no medication for anxiety for years now.  Valium does nothing and ativan makes my heart race.   The only thing that helps is xanax and that is forbidden now in the medical profession because of the abuse of it. But I will never go back to counseling as they have no clue what is going on with the disease.  Even my doctor said I was the first patient she had ever meet with the disease.  I do not have the money or insurance to get the real help I need from the people that know the disease. 
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      Thank you for your advise. I take citalopram for anxiety but since this illness it has no effect. I am going to the doctors Friday so will ask about seeing a counsellor for this. Take care.
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    I’ve had Menieres for 30 plus years. Lately the attack’s have come more frequently but less severe. I am also having problems with my everyday balance. 

    It’s natural to be wary and worry about the next attack. I’m often in situations where I think what would I do if I had an attack here. 

    Having said that I have spells in between attacks when I have an idyllic life with family and friends. These periods keep me sane. There are also many people who are worse off and would swap my illness for theirs. 

    Live for the good moments. 

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    So sorry to hear about your problem. I was having to severe vertigo attacks 1-2 time per month, which completely debilitated me. I would throw up for about 1 hour and then pass out for 3-4 hours. I tried many things and some worked but all they did was make the attacks less frequent. My trigger was stress and anxiety and my doctor prescribed Valium to take when I was under a lot of stress, this worked some but also made me tired and I hate taking manufactured drugs. I recently got some medical marijuana and this has been a life saver. When ever I feel stressed or the beginnings of Vertigo, I take one hit (puff) and it prevents an attack. I have not had an attack in 3 months!!! I'm keeping my fingers crossed this continues. Hope this insight helps you in some way. Good luck!

     

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    Hi Jonese,

    That's a long time fighting. I've had mine for 4 years no ive never stopped looking for answer suggestions somewhere there is a relief maybe nit cure but relief. Have you tested your blood? High ldl cholesterol can play a part also. Hope things approve.

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    I had a huge attack that lasted like two months. I had to travel because my mom was passing and had another attack in her nursing room with throwing up and walking like a drunken sailor, was on prednisone , and travel sickness medicine. Finally last week for some reason I felt so much better. But yes it is terrible and keeps you from wanting to go any where or be around people . Worse disease I hate it . Hoping for a cure. I am on a low salt diet which in itself is a pain . I might have that surgery where they take the sac out to give more room for the fluid . 
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    Please don't give up.  Please discuss this anxiety with your doctor and get some medication for it.  That helps a lot. Just believe that you are capable of dealing with vertigo no matter when or where it happens and IT WILL PASS. Most people with Meniere's can and do live very productive lives and, although it seems overwhelming sometimes, it is not.  And it is not fatal as so many other serious diseases are.  When I was having my worst series of episodes, I decided to quit reading online about other peoples Menieres issues, because it seemed that most were even worse than mine.  It helped not to dwell on it or read about it.  Good luck to you.

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    Don’t give up, your family does not deserve that. As we don’t deserve this disease. I believe we all have anxiety and depression with this because of the unknown. Don’t know when an attack will happen. I just keep telling myself that this disease gets worse before it will get better.  Ask your doctor for something to help you.  I’m on Cymbalta for my depression and I take Valium for attacks.  Just don’t hide it, I find when people are aware of what I’m going through the more relaxed I’m becoming with the disease.  My family and friends are educated on this even my 4 yo granddaughter who will sit with me during an attack.  Just ask for help, it’s out there!!!   Best wishes
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    I feel that way too. Especially in the early weeks following an attack.   I feel like there is no point in living if you can’t do the things your heart desires.  For me, it’s traveling.  I used to love driving and flying to new places and now it’s a thing of the past.   And I’m only 37.  The only reason I don’t kill myself is bc I have two children.  Otherwise there would be absolutely no point to stay alive.   Why were we dealt this crappy hand in life?  I have lived a very healthy life and don’t feel like I deserve this punishment. sad
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      Totally understand I just get so down and feel as if I do not belong.  I don't think even my family understands what MD is.  I totally understand your pain.  You do not deserve it none of us do.   I do not think it is wrong to express how we feel as well.  It sucks and I am not going to pretend it doesn't if you know what I mean.  What blows me away is everyone says go get help.  I cant drive  LOL  and truthfully all the doctors I have seen know very little about this disease.  I just keep praying to the good lord for everyone with illness including cancer and every other crippling disease out there.  Thank you for your response it helped.

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      You do think something that seems so simple could be cured . My doctor put down a Kleenex flat and said the inner ear is made up of fine hair like structures that look like this Kleenex and in a normal ear it will stick to the ear like wall paper, but people with MD has extra fluid and it gets under neath that wall paper which causes the vertigo then it needs a way out which ruptures a hole in the paper( hair like follicles ) that causes the hearing loss. The more vertigo the more hearing loss,  then he talked about the surgery that removes the sac near the middle ear so when the extra fluid builds up it now has another place to go giving the fluid more room and it helps a lot . I’m really thinking about having that done. 
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      Did you doctor say why is that liquid continuously increasing? and what happens if it keeps increasing even after making more room?
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      Hi Judy. Did you dr say that you lose your hearing after this? What is to stop it from moving to the other ear? Just a few questions you should ask.
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      No hearing loss is caused by endolymphatic sac surgery. There is a compartment within the ear the ‘sac’ that can be removed/altered so that the excess fluid can escape therefore having the potential to control, if not eliminate, the vertigo symptom. 

      Nothing will stop MD going to other ear if it’s going to it will, only time will tell unfortunately. 

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      No you don’t lose your hearing, they inter through the back of your ear. It could help for like 10 years he said but you could get scaring which would block it again. But to me it’s worth even if it works for three years. 
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      You still have to stay on a low salt diet of no more then 2000 mg, and he said to exercise getting your heart rate up but for me that’s don’t going to happen. But I do stay on a low salt diet and a water pill . H said 3% have it go to the other ear. Pray every night that it doesn’t 
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      Does this procedure have a name? I want to ask my dr about it. i am getting very desperate for relief of any kind. Keep us updated on your progress and if you do get the procedure. Thanks/

       

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      It is endolymphatic sac decompression surgery, or ESD for short. 

      It’s something I’ve been researching extensively as at only 30 I really don’t want to lose all my hearing as you do with other surgeries. 

      Good luck 😊

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      Hi Diane, please read my msg abt this disease posted above. I found cured in this disease. no need surgery , it is due to ur neck misalignment which many doctors including neurologist, ENT etc let this neck test pass
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      Hi, are you talking about a chiroprator adjusting your neck? Every since Ive been going to a vertigo specialist and doing the exercises with my neck it really seems to help! My problem now is the Stape that was put in my ear years ago  that comes loose and then I get dizzy. I can handle that but the vertigo made me want to die!! I have heard a chiropracter does help but my ent doesnt want me to go as Ive had strokes and he thinks it could cause blood clots to dislodge. Hes a nervous nellie. I would try it if it wasnt for that!
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      Not regular chiropractor where you can see everywhere. It has to be specific Upper Cervical Chiropractor. I went to regular chiropractor hoping to find some relief but ended up getting worse, i felt more dizzy after. So I researched more from Dr Burcon who cured over 600 patients with Meniere disease by adjusting their C1/C2 on their neck. So I followed that path and look for upper cervical chiropractor instead. After first adjustment fromthe doctor, my dizziness disappear within 3 hours and and have not experience dizziness again, so far so good, my tinnitus also went down to nearly zero, my eyes are clear. I found relief. The thing abt me is im in good health, so im willing to try. I dont know if it is cure to my meniere disease or but for sure I found relief. He only adjusted twice because my C1 is now aligned with my neck but i do come back for muscle therapy and excercise to continue to train my brain abt the new spot, otherwise it will go back to old spot and dizzy again.

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