waiting on pip appeal

Hi Gill, how do you get a mandatory reconsideration?

It is disgusting what they do to people!

on my assesment paper it said i was laughing n smiling i laughed but i coverup good so i have mental health problems so it means we arnt allowed laugh or smile,really not right,i just need for it be over now pss or fail hate how its making me feel x

Oh that's ridiculous! People laugh when they're nervous or when they're trying to be friendly. I'm shocked! I must remember to look miserable if I have to see them.  

It's a crime what they're doing; it's oppression and dominating marginalised people to their detriment, and sometimes suicide! Have we time travelled back to the Middle Ages!!!

Hi, a mandatory reconsideration is the first step in the appeal process, if the descision isn't changed then you go to tribunal appeal with an independant panel..

​if you have had a refusal letter you need to call them and ask for it to be looked at again, but not until you have had time to read through their reasons for the refusal and you put your mandatory reconsideration in writting to them, make it clear that you want the MR but not to take any further action till they receive your request in writting.. at that point you can put in writting why you disagree, correct any mistakes they make, (there are usually plenty) and supply any further evidance you have. Then like i say if that fails then it's on to tribunal appeal..

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oh i know debs, mine said i was very chatty & showed no signs of anxiety.. we firsty talking alot when you are nervous is a VERY well known sign of anxiety. I also asked them in their opinion what anxiety is meant to look like... my assessor also said i was not on any medication for anxiety when my pills where right in front of her.. it was just make believe all the way through but 1 letter from my gp put her back in her box..

Any way. i hope you get it sorted.

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Thank you Gill, that's a very comprehensive explanation.

I had to go through an appeal then a tribunal for DLA, in which they came to my home because I couldn't get there. I didn't know about the mandatory reconsideration because someone did it all for me. I was too ill.

Better than I was now somewhat.

does mine susan to,i tried working few years back i went to wynsors felt really good in years n thought i was ready within 4 weeks i was on propanalol as i could eel myself heading back panic had stared again on 5th week i literally ran home panic all over theplace i except now what i can n cant do,i dont go out on my own hence my partner  working part time nights,ive had to except how i am i dont av friends cus of how i am n its terrifying at times im back with mental health services at the min just want appeal to cme n go if i fail so be it  cant do with how im feeling worse that people cant see your ill mental health is a horrible illness x

 

Awww thats sad Debzz, dont have any friends cos of the way you are. Can be  a very lonley place sometimes.  Have you no family suppoprt at all? x 

i have my partner for support luckily enough he patient and i wouldnt go out if it wasnt for him, i have family but through this illness ifind it hard to mix with them,i had to come to terms with how it effects me cus ive had it that long just,so i ca live a bit of normal life x

 

I understand and thats good your partner seems a lovley man. I wish you all the best 

Sue x

I could not agree more I am in a real trap as firstly ESA took away my benefit two days after shoulder surgery due to an assessment they had done a month before surgery when I had had frozen shoulder for 4years and Fibromyalgia for 9 years. I got reinstated when after a nightmare of 50 phone calls as you always talk to someone else ,somewhere else and my GP surgeon and MP getting involved I was reinstated and I was put into the support group.  Next my PIPS was removed in January due to an assessor basically lieing and contradicting herself .I am now at Tribunal stage . I failed by one point . Originally I was awarded  PIPS for two years enhanced rate with 16 points  back last May when I was in permitted work and driving. Now that I am not working  and in the support group with ESA after them agreeing not to do a face to face assessment . I am about to be reviewed to see if I am fit to work. Meanwhile I have been volunteering in our local shop. That proved too much for me so I have had to leave. So what next I cannot do manual work . I am waiting for the Tribunal hopefully to reinstate me or at least pay me what I am due. I felt I had to tell PIPS of a change of circumstance which meant I was worse off after surgery to then have it taken away . I am really upset and when the tribunal asked  PIPS why It had been recorded that I showed no anxiety at the assessment but in fact had burst in to tears PIPs replied it shows she can engage with people!! I want 

 to work but also know that I will probably fail the ESA assessment due to the illogical questions they ask. fibromyalgia is a horrible thing to have and I feel overwhelmed very easily and was in hospital a year ago due to panic attacks. They are about to repeat the process. 

This is horribly hard for you, but keep going because as I mentioned in another post just now, the more people who are appealing and winning the less money they're saving so their system is collapsing and they're going to have to rethink their strategy.

They thought it would be easy to target disabled people and young people to save money, using the excuse of finding cheaters out, but what they didn't take into account is that us sick people can get darn grumpy and fight back! 

I urge everyone to appeal and take it to tribunal if you have to. So many people are winning according to info I'm being sent from the Work and Benefits website.

Update is I got the letter from the Tribunal this am saying I have been reinstated 18 months!! I am so relieved. But they nearly pushed me over the edge, made us homeless etc. It is worth persevering for justice I have been living on a knife edge

Wow congratulations! That's amazing and encoraging news. I'm so pleased for you! 

It was worth the fight. x

I reported back to ATOS immediately that I had been reinstated and put in an official complaint stating   the hell they have put me and my family  through.Yesterday I was close to breaking point. I have told them that they need to retrain or even sack the incompetent assessor before  she does anymore damage. I was nearly made homeless with my two young sons due to her stupid and obvious mistakes. 

Do you think most of them are like her? I keep hearing similar stories. I have it yet to go through. I've got letters of evidence and I'm working up to filling out the form. I've been finding out how to do it, descriptors etc.

I'm trying to be positive about it.