What do you want to banish from the planet?

What am I saying! We will be 100% gone too.

certainly looks that way ,unfortunatly 

You are so right Tis,the Lord did turn Adam and Eve out of his Garden because of the way Eve talked Adam into disobedience,saying all his descendants would suffer too,also saying of how all women would bear their children in terrible pain,as we ladies know this too be true .

And as said ,we (all of us mankind ,and womenkind too ) are the ones who have abused that free will that was so lovingly given to us ,so it is that we are also the ones responsible  for all the Greed ,wars, dishonesty,disharmony,and disloyalty,and illnesses too.We have all got to bear our sufferings just as our Lord had to do when on our earth plane .

I hate to agree with George, in this ,but he is right in my opinion it will get worse before it gets better,it already is doing .

so here to help make it a bit better for us at the moment are some hugs

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milly

i find cruelty to much to bare ,hatred aphorant ,

even white lies diffitcult to say ,i have told white lies but it was to save arguments or someone eles feelings

,but it does not come easy

i dont get violence and peoples obsession with it 

i.e in games and vids 

it is hell living here at the moment 

everything about the world is wrong 

life is os short 

why do some people and nations want to make it shorter and have more suffering in it 

i believe lies will out no matter what so best not to tell them 

in the first place.  my gran told me this rhyme when i was a kid 

oh what a tangled web we weave 

when first we practise to deseve .

no truer words

.i am not perfect but i try to be a good person 

i just wish the garden of eden would come back 

the evil in this world makes me want to live in a cave away from everyone

 hugsssssssssssssssssssssssssssss.

When first we practice to deceive ..

I was taught that too Tis..

You say you are not perfect Tis, none of us are perfect ,some of do try to be good decent adults ,and good decent teenagers too.

Sadly though there are those we know of only too well who are the entire opposite,and do their utmost to bring about tragedies.

And more the the point they succeed .

This is what is making our world they way it is right here and right now.

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but what she used to say about morals and standereds dropping has come true ,

once you start allowing them to drop theres no coming back .

LOL I think you mean people find it easy to be BAD and not to be bed.

But yes there are indeed some people who seem to find it easy to be bad,and find it hard to be good.So I would say yes in my opinion this is indeed the reason our world is in this state it is in today

Milly

It is at times as you say George walking through treacle laced with nettle stings.The times we think all is going well for us ,seems to be quite simply pulled away from under our feet leaving us with (it seems ) no hope .

Yet how many times do we simply look up skywards ,then say out loud ,Dear God... or please God give me strength ... surely if people who say they are an aetheist ,and have no belief in their being aGod ,why then do they ask him for his help? A question I often ponder on

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for you both

milly

i dont believe in the  bible as this was written by man 

and put together by man from scripts found .

thats not to say i dont believe in goodness and kindness peace and understanding,  and not to say that i wouldnt give anything to live in a more peaceful caring world ..

i feel the interpataions given by man on relgion is the cause of so many problems we have to day ..and the casue of many wars . 

theres certain things we need to teach our children 

kindness ,tolerance , undrstanding

respect for others and for them selfs and , boundries, 

and consequences .

this way will raise better people and a more stable socity .

we should stop teaching children that sex under age is ok if you protect yourself , it isnt its ilegal thats why its called underage , we should teach kids to have respect for them self .

I Read in one of your postings you are a spiritualist .Yet you say you don`t believe in God,this is your own perogative ,which I respect.

However I was a spiritualist form many years till last year.

Something happened which took me right back to my roots and where my beliefs are now.

But when I was a spiritualist ,I was also a healer,wnet to their chirch 3/4 times per week ,both fpor the services ,and also to do the healing.

We were always taught that God is the Almighty .with his son Jesus his son.

This was the beliefs of the spiritualist churches then ,and still is today.

Therefore I don`t quite follow how you arrived at the belief of there not being a God Almighty .

Please do not think for one second I am being disrespectfull to you and your beliefs,I am just asking how you came about them seeing you are a spiritualist,and I know what they are taught .

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milly

I do agree though that parents should teach their children about the rights and wrongs ,of how to behave towards other people and to respect them and their properties etc apart from the usual lessons we were given when I was at school

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milly

you say you do believe in  a power God.

Tiswas has heard me on this already so no surprises for her.

There came a day wjen I got the surprise of my life My cynical church going blown away and I had not even noticed. I stopped short half way acress our large bedroom absolutely astonished. I recognised for the first time that I belived it all. That is , I believed all that the Bible said about the Lord Jesus.

I have found that journey of discovery to be increasingly unpopular with denominational churches. I do find that I have many ideas in common with thoughtful people.

Many thanks for your reply ,and for your information,it has to be said though ,although some are brainwashed when they are taken into a Cult.

However other than that we find it out in our own time and in our own way,something occurs ,that makes us stand up and take notice.

To Faz,all I can say ,is that like all others you have the right to your views and opinions.

Yes of course the Bible was writtne by man many many years ago. How though did they learn how to right  in the first place,how then were those who are able to translate able to translate .

Why do you (maybe) and so many others cry out  when in trouble.

God help me

Lord help me

,if you and others believe there is no God,who are you calling out to in yur hour of need .

You know people say we came from Monkeys etc.

If that is the case and I very much doubt it ,who put the monkeys on the earth in the first plce,they didnt just materialise?

milly

i suppose what i mean is i dont belive in theGod that is the head of churches  .and religeon 

i was brought up surrounded by catholics although not a practising catholic 

although i was baptised the cruelty and the greed of catholic church apores me just because its in the past does not mean it should be forgottten and latin mass said in latIn right into the 70s was just another way of control . 

i nice catholic women that i knew very well was told by her priest that she wet the bed because she was hiding a guilty sexul secrat and that it was gods punishment .  wheather she was or not i dont know but it was wrong to say that to her as it was proberly something medical .

and like i said the christiians are afraid of everything to do with spritulisum you only have to mention it  to them  and they start speaking in tongues 

and as for jeovah witness ,hypnoses is the way the devil gets to you you shouldnt do it

, and animals dont have souls . utter rubbish utter control by fear . no thanks .i belive that there is an almighty  God by any other name . but i dont reqonise him belonging to any church ,or faith.

just to the earth and all who want to live in peace .

but like you i do not tell others what they must believe its they right to believe in  what they wish . as long as its not hatred and killing .or hurting others in any other way . i think the lovely John lennon was right give peace a chance 

Youi explain yourself well,considering your ailment .I don`t believe we have to go to church inj order to believe in God. I agree with you that man was absolutely in the wrong to say what he did to that lady .It could be as you say something medical that she has.

As for animals my belief is that all living things do have a soul/spirit.they do all feel pain wen it is inflicted upon them.or when ill.

Like you Tis ,I do not believe God wants us to belong to any church, he simply wants us to believe in him and to keep the faith. He wants us to have a peaceful earth ,to have love ,peace ,and to care for one another ,he does notwant this palnetto be as it is.

You may well question then why does he allow it to continue,asI said we are all given free will to do either good or evil,some choose good while others choose evil sadly .

And yes John Lennon had the right idea bless him,and like Jesus who died on the cross for us ,John Lennon was also persecuted too,but he carried on.

milly

i believe JOHN was a modern man with an old soul that the almighty sent us to try and make us see are wrong ways , but few listened 

just imagine if we had all listened how differant the world would be today .

i love spirtul films like the city of angels ,and what dreams may come 

have you seen these ,they give me hope . 

Welllllll now ,pray do tell where I said YOU were brainwashed by a cult....

Many thanks for your reply ,and for your information,it has to be said though ,although some are brainwashed when they are taken into a Cult.

"However other than that we find it out in our own time and in our own way,something occurs ,that makes us stand up and take notice."

I take it when I made that comment ,that you too had come to the light in your own time and in your own way.....and not that you were one of those who were brainwashed  giggle ..

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About 14 hours before this message you wrote for my entertainment 

"Many thanks for your reply ,and for your information,it has to be said though ,although some are brainwashed when they are taken into a Cult.

However other than that we find it out in our own time and in our own way,something occurs ,that makes us stand up and take notice."

I of course took the first sentence to apply to an addle brained simpleton such as my unworthy self. By contra distinction you graciously  indicated the great superiority and discrimination of your most worthy and exalted Impishness.. 

I only submitted  in the humblest of terms the difficulties I might have in entering into a cult of unusual meanness in numbers and the vanishingly small intellectual ability to work the degree of skill necessary to launder the the brains if any such there be, clear of any presupositions that might be at varience with the intentions and impositions of the cult if so be it there is a cult exercising the prescriptions of which you have so graciously demeaned yourself so far as to describe in the aforesaid gracious terms.

I remain, your Impiship

your most humble and unwirthy servant

George , Order of St Humphry Appleton, second class

the order of incomplete drivvle is of course the Order of Sir Humphrey Appleby, second class

HUG xxx

Why do you say animals don't have souls? Just curious as to why you think that?

Welcome back Georgia xxxxxx

And are soul and spirit the same phenomenon?

Therefore I think that animals have souls if they're able to connect with and see into the spiritual realm, or heaven better than we can?

but jeovah witness do not . one i knew had a small holding and some ponies one pony died and the just set fire to it and thought it was funny when it exploded ,well if that is religion id rather be of a  non f aith

animals feel pain they sense your mood iv only got to start crying and little scrufffy is on my lap ,and yes i believe they see spirit more than we do  mine often sit and look as thou they are looking at something 

horses to are very sensistive .they have very good intuintion they sense danger .anybody who says animals dont have souls i just dont want to know . 

iv heard people also say they have seen or felt  there dead pet in times of trouble . 

and spirit what lives on after we are gone .

and they bring comfort 

did you know that they no longer put bibles in hotel rooms 

We are being run ragged by fantom fears. There are very few who would harm their neighbour of whatever sort. One tiny bunch of extremists and we run screaming. 

We have the police and MI5 and MI6 all working to keep us safe. Fear surrenders us to the extremists. Our society is cowardly as well as foolish.

As you say, the spirit the essential me that lives on when the body dies.

and suddenly it was easier 

i think sometimes i hang on to my memeories of the ones iv lost to much but i am afraid if i stop thinking abou tthem i will forget them 

Whether there is imortal spirit also I can't say. 

Our sorrow is that we have lost the society of our loved one. Not that they have ceased to be.

Departed is a more accurate description. Deceased seem spositively incorrect.

However given the fantastic variety of animals on planet earth. I expect that the New Earth will be even more wonderfully populated by men and animals. As the men will have the spirits they had on earth the same may well apply to the animals. After all the New Earth will be fully populated from the outset and there will be no sex - it will not be needed.

Horses come through the village often. Once I was sitting on my wall on a sunny day in a really happy mood. A horse and rider came by and the horse stopped and just stood there looking at me. I was really pleased; we had a connection but the rider woman was trying to get him to move on and turning angrier and angrier because he wouldn't budge. 

In the end I said "It's alright, I'll go inside' so I did.

I peeped out from behind my living room door through the window and he'd moved on but as soon as I looked at him he stopped again and stood looking through the window at me. Lol

I hid behind the door and he went. An amazing moment. I would have liked to meet him without the grumpy rider!

There's a lovely horse down the road I have a connection with. We know what each other are thinking.

and they want to connect to you .

AMAZING creatures . 

We were on a tour of the plains of Hungary. We watched a riding display. After, the tourists were invited to ride. Initially there was an eagre response to ride the horses offered. None of them would go. Interest fell off very quickly. The mare we tried to ride was a gental beast. It was clear why she would not go. She was totally foundered - all four hoofs agony. 

I gave her a little fondling and she relaxed, enjoying the TLC.The senior horseman was livid. If looks could kill. 

Those were the memories I took away with me. The gentle mare and the cruel master.

To my chagrine I ate horse once though. I was staying with a family in France on a school exchange trip and I didn't realise until afterwards that the meat I was given for tea was horse! Felt awful about it. 

how anybody can hurt any creature thats so inteligent and beautyful i really dont know god would i like to do the equalvent to them to see how they felt 

Yes by takiing money away from the most vulnerable people in society while MPs increase their own salaries!!!!!!! That's cruelty.

Let's get rid of the Conservatives! 

iv just noticed the first 3 letters say what you get from the conservities

con ,conned right left and centre .

So, going for the least bad result.