What gives meaning to your life?

Then my dear young wonderful lady - winge away.

Let's show all these people on this forum what a really good winge is really all about.

Hang on a moment whilst I put my helmet on. lol

R x

Thank you fellow winger! We could give awards to the best winges. 

I've got one. I don't have a carer now since the cutbacks but the aftermath of the previous carers is horrendous. They moved things around all over the place so I can't find things.

I tried to find my allen keys today because I had enough energy to get my battery out of my motorbike to charge it but where are my allen keys???

The guy over the road used his. Although it's hard without care at least things aren't being thrown away and lost. All they had to do is ask 'where would you like me to put this?' How hard is that.

I keep my bike tools on my kitchen table and one woman put some of them under the sink!!!!!! Took me hours to find them.  Under the sink!

Some people don't have a clue do they?

I always keep my allen keys in the same place, and a couple of years ago when I returned from holiday I needed one of them to attach a new gear lever to the car that I was running.

I went to the drawer where they are normally kept - not there - strange, so I looked through every draw - not there - even more strange, so I went to the garage and turned it upside down - not there - mad!, so I went to the garden shed and turned that upside down - not there - panic, so I looked through the cars - not there - now frantic, so I travelled an 80 mile round trip to see if I had left them in the caravan - not there - now at wits end..

I was now at the stage when, if I had hair I would be pulling it out.

There has to a plausible explanation for this, so I know I must have loaned them out - next step I accuse a neighbour of not returning them - result he doesn't talk to me any more.

The swear words are now coming into my mind fast and loose because all I want to do is to fit a new blessed gear knob and I can't do it.

My son and daughter in law pop by, and seeing me in a state of end-stage anxiety ask what is wrong and are told by my wife that it's all about a set of missing allen keys, to which my son pipes-up, 'oh it's those is it, I borrowed them while you were away so that I could fit a new gear knob to my car, but haven't had the time to return them?'.

'You've had them a b###dy fortnight which was enough time to return an elephant and haven't done it yet - the least you could have done was to leave me a note?'.

To which my son said, 'what was so b###dy urgent that you needed them right away to the point that your beetroot-coloured face is indicative of a coronary?'......

To which the reply was......'I wanted to fit a new b###dy gear lever knob the same as you did, but because you regard me as Yorkshire Free Tool Hire (all tools hired are not returnable), I couldn't damn well do it - you prat'.

Such fun!

Hysterical! I'm belly laughing so hard.  Arrrgh it can make you think you're losing your mind can't it, and it's the only thing on your mind, finding that darn thing! What gets me is that your son had no idea what you'd been through trying to find it! 

Why should he care, I'm just the free tool rental company that supplies everything on a 'no return' basis including money.

That's the price you pay for having children! I have one so I know.  

It is indeed a heavy price to pay, but whether it is all been worthwhile it is a matter of conjecture.

Anyway, I've been forced to close down the Free Tool Hire shop and the bank of mum and dad, and requested that in future they all email me well in advance of any and all requests.

The problem is that the younger one countered by saying that I have to email him in future well in advance if I want him to feed our fish while we are holiday.

That's bl###dy blackmail.

You just cannot win.

Just wait until he wakes up one day to find another bit of his anatomy is lying on the floor, because it does you know with men as they get older..

Just tell him that he didn't really need it (or them as the case may be).

He might start to get them message then?

Alternatively you might offer to surgically remove the offending bit/s to save him the anguish of it/them falling off anyway.

I'm certain that if this kind offer is forthcoming he might become more reasonable and understanding. lol

 

Oh I'd love to surgically remove parts of him, largely his mouth! And brain.

It's quite disturbing that bits of men fall off though, whose going to clean it up?

Generally they just ignore the falling off bit, but make a big thing of the actual loss.

The bits can remain there for weeks, that is until the dog gets a surprise meal one day.

I must say that your neighbour seems to be a most worthy candidate.

lol

 

Thar be nah r

lol say  wahhh?   

As I was trying to say then Frustrated, when another bit hit the deck.......'Thar be nah raisin tah get thar nickers in a stitherum'......

Life is too short......

How are you doing?

I'm well, thank you, Arch...how are you doing?  I agree lifes waaaay too short and each day goes by too quickly...same idea?? 

Frustrated

Good morning, sorry not to have replied immediately but I decided not to do too much yesterday as the morning was focussed on getting rid of a determined 'hypo'.

How am I doing? Very well thank you despite the years creeping-up on me at what seems to be an ever-increasing pace.

My attitude is that I am greateful for every day that is presented to me,.because when I read what others on this forum are enduring I realise that I have absolutely nothing to compalin about.

I often wish that I had a magic wand which I could wave, and all the horrors and troubles of this world would just disappear, but as we live in a 'real' world I know that is never going to happen.

This is why I give so much of my time trying to give others in less fortunate circumstances a sympathetic and often empathateic ear.

As for us, we are now just looking forward to getting away on our next 10 day family break to the south of the country, where we can maybe get some 'us' time.

Time passes far to quickly.

Rod.

 

Hello Arch ~

Nice to hear from you.  I came to this site almost a year ago and found many  supportative people on here.  I hear you when you say so many are burdened with so much more than I'm dealing with.  I believe it's because of this, I'm able to give my input hoping it just may make someone smile, think less about what's going on with them or anything really, to take us away from our situation.    Escape, definitely!

 

'This is why I give so much of my time trying to give others in less fortunate circumstances a sympathetic and often empathateic ear.'

Cool, a difficult job in which it must be possible to miss the mark completely sometimes so you must have to tread very carefully, eh? Rather you than me.

Typos excepted, that's me. Someone has to do it dearest.

I often miss the mark, but I put that down to lack of sufficient experience.

How about you? 

 xxx

I think where angels fear to tread I dare not go. In other words I don't mind giving encouragement but psychoanalysis is a dangerous path because everyone's different and it's possible that more harm than good may result.

Empathy yes, general assumptions about people no.

Where an individual gives chapter and verse concerning their life, history and present predicament, then a fair assumption can be made as to what the problem might be.

The assumption may not be completely correct but empathy is possible and at worst sympathy and a level of association with their situation.

This is where knowledge and experience comes into play.

Where some history is not given or not specific enough, then empathy might be difficult, so lending a listening ear and sympathy with their plight might help.

Where there is no knowledge or experience of a specific situation maybe it is better to remain silent.

So saying things such as that a person shouldn't feel suicidal because other people might be better off than them, and might not feel suicidal may be a thing such as you mentioned, better to keep silent if you don't know that person's full situation?

Matters concerning potential suicide are very different, and it is unfair of you to centre on that point particularly where 'I' am concerened.

Suicidal feeling can be brought about as a result of many different things, not the least of which are very serious mental health issues.

In such cases 'I' cannot just say 'snap out of it', because those words do not really exist in the vocabulary of the afflicted.

Neither can 'I' say that their feelings are abnormal, because 'I' cannot step into the mind of that person or their experiences, and have no right to change their mind.

What 'I' can say to such a person is 'are you really in touch with your feelings, and have you come to terms with what suicide really means?' 'Are you certain that this is a final decision having taken into account all the issues and ramifications?'

'I' personally cannot in such cases compare any person in this situation to any other person, neither have 'I' any right to do so.

If I worked for 'Mind' then it might be a very different story, but their ethos and ours' is very different as you very well know.

In matters not concerning life and death (for example health), then I feel more at liberty to express a personal opinion. 

 

Might I come in on this poin?. As several of the contributors to this formum know, I am easily tumbled into the ditch. They also know how hard they have to labour to help me out. A command to "pull myself together" would probably cause me to close my account and depart in the deapest of gloom and dispair. 

Once I was actually in the process of closing my account in such gloom when someone as it happened claimed my attention and drew me back into comfort with the forum. It was several days before I was really back and up on my feet and cost my friends much anxious effort.

I hope we will not hear anyone's view over pressed. I doubt if I shall again assert my view. I let them make of it what they will.

You told me to snap out of it! You tried to make me feel guilty about feeling like that by saying worse off people than me don't feel like that!

I opened up because I trusted you and you made me feel worse!

Yes George this happened to me!

I won't stay away from the forum because people here mean too much to me to leave them, as you know. 

You said 'snap out of it' to me!

Hi Doc!!

I hear what you just said.  I'm sorry that happened to you.  I know from my experience here that some are mean to the core but most aren't.  I tend to follow those who I feel have a light spirit and a kind soul.  I was down and out bc of something that happened in here to me and I, too, almost closed this acct.  I believe that's when I changed my game plan and changed the discussion path and I met nice people like you, George aka Doc lol.

Anyway, I can say that I've been in contact with many of you in here (this discussion) and find all of you to have that human aspect about us and that we are all suffering from our own private afflictions and we respect one another and "try" hard not to push anyone "over".  However, if that should happen to you from me, please, don't sit and stew about it, send me a message and we can come to terms about it.  I try hard to keep in mind other's here could be standing on a thread and  come here to support and help one another.

Okies, I'm rambling now.  Time for me to go lol  My eyes are getting bad eariler than usual so it is time for me to depart for a while.  I am trying to come back twice a day but the stay isn't like I used to be able to do.

Love to all of you!

Frustrated

Oh and btw, it's my 39th anniversary today!  Love this man!  He's off cooking something special for us today (his choice as he was dying to bake in his new dutch oven!  lol yep all those years I did the cooking has gone full circle and he cooks for us almost daily.  He's good, too!

Okies, I'll stop  the bragging lol  oh and tomorrow it's my birthday, I'll bring some cake, you all show up!!  lolol

Good wishes to all and stay well!

Frustrated

psst,notice I didn't tell you my age!  lolol oh heck, I'm going to be 63

But if I did it was a slip of the pen and probably at a time when I thought you were 'playing' with me, which is sometimes your want.

I care one heck of a lot about you Georgia, and always try to be attentive to your needs.

I would go as far as to say that (in George's words) our gang of five has become an important feature in my life, and for the want of clarity I would say, yes you are one of the gang.

"sniff" go away for a while because of illness and not considered "one of the gang" anymore...whaaaaaaaaa!  I know in Georges eyes, I'm still part, right Doc?!  lol

I'm just teasing really.  I do what I can and hope it's good enough.

Frustrated

Welcome to the gang of 6, but I do wish you would consider changing your nom de plume as it has reminiscences of a time long past when everything worked. lol

What you do on this forum I think is great and is always very sensible, so long may it continue.

Arch   xxx 

 

I have to do that quite often, suddenly dissapear into the ether for a while because I can't stop sleeping and feeling rotten.

Believe me you're very hard to forget, as am I it seems so we're probably a permanent fixture here.  

Hello Arch ~

Sorry for the long delay in responding.  I am honored to be in the "gang of 6"  hehe.  Presently, my nom de plume suits me.  Plus I've been a member for a year or so, how would anyone know who i am?  LOL  Anyway, I'm happy that it reminds you of the past, it's good to look back every now and then.

Thank you for the compliment!  I  believe we all have something to add and support each other. I usually put up a discussion that will take you away from your current situation and make you think and at times even forget how one is suffering.  

You have a great spirit!  And, I intend on coming here as much as possible!

Thank you!

Frustrated

 

Hi GeorgiaS ~

Uh-Oh, I'm hard to forget?  I hope that is in a good way because once in a while one can post and its read totally opposite of what you meant it to say...been there before!  

I'm hoping all of you and myself stay here and just keep each other company if that is possible when we're all incognito lol

Warmly,

Frustrated

O-M-Gosh!  I'm not going to be 63 until next year, for God's sake!  I just turned 62, May 9th!

I don't always manage to take part but when I feel able to it's pretty good here and I think keeping each other company's so important. I live alone so it's like a life line to have somewebsites to talk to people in.

shhh, about the living part!  I hear you though.  It is nice to have that life-line!  My husband is here with me but he's always doing stuff and my energy level isn't great.  So,yes, I do like coming here.

Thankies

Frustrated