When does the fusion/adhensions/change in structure occur?

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We are raw, irritated, red, have tears, hurt, sore, itch, and have white patches. We also have fusion and disappearance of some of our parts. Just by looking you can see it all happening except the fusing and disappearing parts.  It seems adhering occurs when you don't know..it just appears one day. Is it occuring when we itch or when we are raw and irritated?  Do the white patches causes the adhering and covering over our parts?  Does the fusing happen at the white patches or can it happen anywhere else on the vulva where we don't have reddness, white patches or itching ?  Then do we use it all over the vulva when we are free of flare-ups and using steroid once week?   When we are free of a flare-up where to we use the cream?  Do we use it where we had the iritation ? Do we use it where the scars are and the fusing is even though we are flare free?  I read we use the steroid to prevent further scarring and fusion, but I'm still not sure if the fusion is the result of the other symtoms and when we do maintence with the steroid where do we put it? Hope this makes sense.

 

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    Fusions/adhesions - this is how I handle these but it may not be for all of you!  As soon as I get that nasty "caught my skin in a zip" feeling, I whip out my mirror and, if their is a piece of labia stuck to something it shouldn't be .............. I take a deep breath and pull it apart.  It hurts!  It really hurts but I massage the area, apply ointment and within a few hours I'm back to (ab)normal with no bleeding, pain or itch.  I think you have to act quickly or it's too late.  Since I have adopted this procedure I haven't lost any more structure. 
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      I have also massaged a lot of emu oil and tried to unstick, it does seem to free labia a bit. Does anyone else get a what I can only describe as a creeping feeling? Almost like something crawling on your skin? This is when I think I fuse a bit.

       

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      I get a tingling feeling. It feels very much like the prodrome stage of getting a cold sore.
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      I don't know if it is the same, but I get a similar feeling at night.  Sometimes I wait up and put my undies folded between my legs to stop the feeling. 
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      Interesting that you mention cold sores because I have been diagnosed with herpes simplex as well as LS. Once I knew that and started looking I realise a lot of my soreness is actually cold sores, which I treat with Zoviraz. I still get the white patches and atrophy, but have been told that atrophy is part of ageing, I'm 73.  Another unanswerable question, how much would you lose if you didn't have LS?

      i suppose if you didn't have it or any symptoms you probably wouldn't look and wouldn't know, or care!

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    Judy I think there's a clue to the answer to your main question in the original nineteenth century name: Lichen Sclerosus et Atrophicus. Two separate things. In my forty years I don't see a connection between the white patch I've had for many years only on my perineum and the loss of architecture (loss of plumpness in the labia) and the fusing. I've had various kinds of fusing:

    1) At age 61 the series of tiny paper cuts in my raw inner labia healed over my clitoris like a zipper. I had a bad flareup culminating in an abscess under the closing seam.

    2) A few months ago I had a large tear in my perineum that folded shut too far and narrowed my vagina from three fingers down to two. But I strteched it open as Kathryn here described and used lots of oil to make sure it healed flat – open, no fold.

    3) Looking back over the decades of not using a hand mirror I believe I had reduced labia architecture in my early twenties, mostly from remembered remarks about how it all appeared by my husband and by my GP.

    4) And in my late thirties in a hopeless marriage with no sex for years I did not that my clitoral hood seemed to be covering the clitoris. At the time I blamed myself (use-it-or-lose-it). But I think this stuff only happens to women with LS.

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       They are all symtoms, but they don't seem to overlap with each other.  The fusing is occuring independently from the other things going on ? It has been said before, but this is the strangest disease !
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    Well Judy everything is as clear as mud to us and also to our doctors. Like with any skin complaint they're clutching at straws and it looks like its down to ourselves to find out what helps. As for the why;s and wherefores who knows what happens when and why it does. My gyn wants to do a biopsy but think might pass as almost everyone whos has had one has no clear diagnosis and are all the more painful for it. I'm in no doubt that docs are no more knowledgeable about this awful condition as us sufferers are unfortunately. 
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    Judy12533 said -  " It seems adhering occurs when you don't know..it just appears one day. Is it occuring when we itch or when we are raw and irritated?  Do the white patches causes the adhering and covering over our parts?  Does the fusing happen at the white patches or can it happen anywhere else on the vulva where we don't have reddness, white patches or itching ? "

    I saw it happening once Judy and I have no white patches, if that's any help. Also there was no flare-up or itching or even soreness there at the time.

     I had had LS for about six years and had become increasingly alarmed at the closing up of my vulva. 

    One night going to bed and with this on my mind I decided to self examine using a magnifying mirror and there it was - in process! Half a centimetre or more was gooey and when I pulled the two sides apart left strands of goo between them. I must say it was very sticky, and when I let it go it wanted to stick fast and was even harder to prise open again, in fact I could only manage a small piece that time.  I thought of putting a thin piece of tissue between the sides  as I had a box of tissues near me, but worried that the tissue would then become immersed in the fusion. I put my finger between the sides and hobbled to the bathroom to find something else to use but before I could it had stuck fast anyway and that was it. 

     I think keeping well oiled is the answer, all the time as you never know when it will happen. I've had further shrinkage since then but gradual and seem to be holding my own for the last several years.

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