When will this get better 😥

the benzo relieves the intrusive thoughts.why suffer?

Yeah Lois i been like this almost 6 months and its pretty bad now.

Lois you ever get those and what did you get them from ?

Lois is exactly right, benzo's relieve the anxiety, which usually relieves intrusive thoughts that go along with it. And to be honest, people can say what they want, if you're not taking them for recreation and actually need them while your A/D is trying to level out I see nothing wrong with it. I took them as needed for 10 years, never got addicted and ONLY took them as needed, and small dose which never had to be increased for severe anxiety and they helped tremendously!

Hey Grounded! Did you get intrusive thoughts?

What type of thoughts you get?

They come in waves for me and arent good for you.

What you do for your anxiety?

I did get them for the whole 7 months off and on, some days worse then others, I had them about many different things it would switch around but they were awful to say the least, most of which I would never even think about when I felt good.

Intrusive thoughts are usually about things that mean the most to you, such as, health, family, work, etc. They say that happens about things you care about the most because you actually think the opposite of the thoughts and you're mind is just feeding off the anxiety that they cause. There are really good videos about intrusive thoughts success stories, and why people have them if you'd like I can pm you.

For me it was just getting the anxiety back down to a normal level and intrusive thoughts have gone. I take citalopram 15mg, and after a hellish 7 months of trying to find the right dosage they have really kicked in.

GROUNDED, thats great to hear!! Ive been following your posts on your struggles! I may decrease to 25mg after my trip coming up this next week. Its good to hear your success story. Was it about a week after decrease that you felt better? I cant remember if you said sad you had withdrawl symptoms. Did you?

Hello Laura! And yes, I would say 5 days to a week is what it took, and even to me I know that sounds crazy but it was like night and day! Really! I think it's been about 3 weeks now and I'd say out of that 3 weeks I've had only 1 or 2 days that was a little off, the rest of the time I feel good. I'm able to go out and do things, go shopping, plant flowers, visit family and very little anxiety to no anxiety at all, my thinking is clearer, the dp/dr is 90% gone. I'm hoping that I will be back to 100% in the next few weeks to a month. Oh and by the way shopping is a huge step for me, I would get such bad anxiety in the stores, I would get dizzy, legs would feel weak, I would feel smothered? if that makes sense. Now I can walk around there for long periods lol, my fiance doesn't care much for that part, I'm actually spending money now (JK) he is sooo happy to see me out doing things 😃

Grounded, thats awesome!!! I'm so happy for you!!

Hey i got a question .

Can the meds increase these for any reason?

I just came down from 20 mg to 10 mg.

Can you get thoughts about yourself ?

Thanks!

im not against them just dont want anyone going through what i went through thats all!

what do you mean?

you get thoughts of all kinds including your self.

I believe if the dosage isn't right yet it can cause them, the dose I was on apparently was just too high for me and that's why they stayed with me throughout the course of the 20mg, because now that I have lowered it and I believe have finally hit the right dosage for me they have almost completely gone. And yes, you can get them about yourself, you can get them about any random thought that pops in your head that would cause anxiety, because they feed off anxiety. Just remember that these thoughts are not accurate or how you really feel at all, they are just that 'thoughts' that are just feeding off anxiety, almost all the time they will get better once you get your anxiety down to a normal level.

Oh definitely I understand. I know they don't work for everyone, but for the majority they have definitely been a lifesaver in really bad times. I wish they would have worked for you also!

thank you, so glad youre seeing improvements 😃 x

Hey Grounded ! I went down on dose from 20 mg to 10 mg. I was on 20 mg and had too many side effects and feeling extremely tired .

I still notice anxiety and thoughts and still a little low energy.

I had a major headache in morning.

I dont think i wanna try a beta blocker if lowers mood no thanks.

How you all feeling today?

Have any of you tried abilify or something to add on for anxiety or the thoughts ?

Is that too much to take?

Im still getting anxiety and thoughts and feeling low on 10 mg like i was on 20 mg so im confused what the right dose is for me.

Last time a few years ago it worked at 20 mg and this time a no go and so i went down to 10 mg.

abilify is a strong antiphychotic.adding other antid.is risky .n harder to come off .

What made you drop from 20mg to 10mg? Everytime you change dose its like starting the clock over again. I think it would probably make more sense to try a different dose than add an anti psychotic as this will probably cause more issues and side effects. Did your doc suggest this or did you read about it?

What about trying your benzo to see if that helps? It'll just give u a little break from feeling so pants x

Well i was getting lot of side effects on 20 mg for 3 and half months so i went on 10 mg just last friday.

I been at this since Jan. when i tried lexapro 10 mg for a month and was terrible.

I just

was looking up that med abilify because my doc did suggest seroquel at one point as a add on due to my intrusive thoughts.

Thanks!

the saroquel will knock you out.

I already feel like im knocked out so thats not for me .

It can work for some but not others so again, it's trial and error which really sucks. It sounds like you've been on it a long time so make sure you talk to your doc about other options just incase. Intrusive thinking is a symptom of anxiety so it could be that rather than the meds. We are here to support you no matter what you choose to do

well what happens is that the celexa in the beginning stages

magnifies what ever anxiety you may have.

It seems though she's been been suffering a long time. Should it have calmed down by now? X

the problem is she started the process all over again.so in reality she is having withdrawals n start ups on the lower dose .there is no other way of explaining it .if she does not want to take the benzo for her personal reasons .im afraid the calming aint coming yet.she just reduced last friday.

I didnt realise it was so soon dripping the dose. That all makes sense then bless her. We are all lucky to have you guys on here helping while we struggle with this. It's nice to know someone is always willing to help

Hey how are you today?

So that is what happening to me lois.

Yeah i dropped the dose to 10 mg .

How you feeling potato?

only time ive had intrusive thoughts is changing dose

Hey toria how did you feel through this all daily?

What dose are you on?

I been at this at almost 6 months .

1st month was Lexapro and that no good.

I went on celexa 20 mg 3 and half months until last friday to 10 mg.

I am on that dose for now.

What do you think?

im on 6mg now, for the first 6 months i basically just survived the days x

i think you possibly didnt give the lex enough time and are now having withdrawal and dose change symptoms, i know its hard but it just time x

i dealt with all that you mention for 8months.n the xanex would always get me out of whatever funk the celexa had me in.

Hey x I'm the same really,no change x have moments when things seem a little bit tougher. I'm nervous about a meeting I have to go to tomorrow. And my son has been poorly today so I think that's added to my anxiety. He did make me laugh though when he referred to his poo, as bum slugs 😂 how are you feeling today? Hope today hasn't been too bad for you x

Changing dose is so difficult. It's always scary having to do that isn't it x

Im trying to watch tv but cant focus on it . I had no issue before the med since i love movies.

I am gonna try to go out for a bit to gym with no energy . I will try the bike for a bit. I use to go to gym daily until this med situation.

Its nearby thankfully.

Its still up and down like hour to hour on how your gonna feel.

Do any of you have trouble leaving your place while going through this ?

Can you recover on 10 mg? Am i just wasting time feeling like this?

What dose you on potato?

How do you feel on it?

Have you been on meds before for this issue?

10th of next month will be a year on this dose, such fun NOT x

I think i read too many bad things about benzos that im afraid of tolerance and withdrawal which i already have on celexa.

These are very strong meds that have withdrawal issues .

Did you take your benzo a lot during the 8 months Lois?

honestly the not being able to focus will pass x

Keep trying! Keep watching the TV and movies even if you aren't concentrating just keep doing it because if you do, you realise soon you managed to watch it for 5 mins it'll soon turn to 10 mins then half hour then a full program and it will be a good indication that you are making progress.

Start small with the things you try and do like the gym or your bike even if it's 10 mins then do a little more each time. Build slowly if you can x sometimes I do struggle to leave my house but I force myself to do it because when I get in I feel quite relieved and next time I go out I tell myself I was fine last time so this should be easier if that makes sense?

Of course people can recover on 10mg. Some people more, some people less. If you have recently changed your dose it will settle down and you will be able to tell what your next move should be.

You really are a trooper! Dealing with it for that long x hope it's getting easier for you too x

I'm on 40mg for 6 weeks now. Was on 20mg for 4 years and they seemed to stop working so some goon thought they would get me to take mirtazapine too. Well that didn't work out so well and after 8 weeks I had a complete melt down with anxiety and depression. So bye bye mirtazipine and up my citalopram to 40mg. Its been really tough tbh. Some days I think yaaaaaay! I'm getting better then I se to go backwards again it's exhausting x

i surely did.i took them for one year .i no longer take them did not have any withdrawals or issues or addiction.

Same here a few years ago x

I went from 20mg to 15mg first and once I switched to that everything changed for the better, it's like that was the dose for me. Also, I figured going down by 5mg at a time would be easier to adjust too. I also had the thoughts, anxiety, and many other things at 20mg so I guess that was just too much for me. As far as the headache, maybe its just the dosage change, that shouldn't last too long, at least it didn't for me and hopefully you will be the same.

Keep your head up! You will get this right, and get to feeling better. 😃

Oh and as far as the anti anxiety meds, mine wasn't beta blockers although I have heard that they help quite a bit I was on clonazepam 'as needed' for a very long time, I never had to increase the dose, and never took them regularly, there would be times I wouldn't need them for months. But they were lifesavers when I did. I also as Lois said don't take them anymore and I had no withdrawls from it so try not to be so scared of them, there is no need to suffer while waiting for the celexa to kick in.

well said.x

Hello! I went to gym had some intrusive thoughts there but still managed to stay there for a bike ride.

They seem relentless .

Anyone ever think they have a more serious disorder from this?

Thanks!

Hey grounded im on this for anxiety and depression. It seems to have made these conditions worse.

Hopefully it help but when i see my doc i dont know what he is gonna want to do.

Probably gonna want to switch or do something.

it was until i got a different brand of liquid x

yes! but you dont! x

dont switch or you will start your drama all over again n worst.

Hey Lois! I woke up feeling headachy and kind of low for some reason.

Probably not sleeping much.

I wanna sleep but feel awake and this is what happens.

I been pretty much lounging around daily but do get out time to time.

It

The same thing happened to me when I changed brands x everyone said it wasn't possible but we are both proof of that x

Hey. You are going to feel like try is for a while until your body adjusts to the dose when it settles down a bit you should be able to tell a little better if it's working. If you switch you just have to start all over from the beginning x remember what you are experiencing is because of the meds too, it will settle down x

Hey Potato ! How you today?

What do you mean start all over?

Its been a week since 10 mg .

I still feel it today .

Everyone i talk to says it not because of meds.

What gives?

he means if you switch meds or decrease or increase you will start the process all over again

did it take long for you to settle once you changed back? i think im super sensitive as im withdrawing, how are you today? x

I still haven't settled yet and I'm on 6 weeks. I am on a high dose though. When I came off the mirtazapine it took about 3 weeks before I felt they were out of my system. Everytime you change dose you have to wait for everything to settle again and when it comes to these meds a week is a really short time so you won't feel any positive yet. But don't give up it just takes time. And a week really is a short time. Once your meds settle a little it will get a bit easier for you. X

if you start another med all symptoms will start over, the difference between start up and withdrawal and actual anxiety etc are hard to decipher but you must know how you felt before you started the meds? whats different? x

Sorry Toria I read the wrong message lol. I'm a bit stupid atm x ill resend lol x

It really didn't take long for me to settle when I changed back to my brand I think maybe about 3-4 days tops. It was hard to tell as I was having side effects anyway but I knew straight away once I was on a different brand. I got a load of new side effects and felt like I had gone backwards. You will adjust back again so don't worry x give it a week max and ull be back to how u were x

that is correct toria.you have to know exactly how you felt before meds to be able to disect the situation.thats how i knew the celexa was working for me.because i felt relieve from my scalp paresthesia instantly.

you talking to the wrong people .is your initial anxiety better ???

Hello! I didnt appear as anxious or down as i am now.

All these new side effects cause me to feel not so.good.

are you responding to me? ive been on this dose 11 months x

aw thank you so much, feel like ive been going crazy x

Hey the initial anxiety was a lil better Lois. I mean its a the side effects that been bothering me daily.

I think my family dont believe its the meds causing any effects.

oh thats lovely then.just hang on the side effects will subside just be patience.as long as you are seen an improvement from initial symptoms.

so its the meds settling, you have start up and withdrawal, i know its hard but you just have to grit your teeth are bare it for a while until you settle as any changes could make the symptoms worse x

I felt the same way. I noticed the difference from the first dose. I just knew something wasn't right. My ex partner is a pharmacist and she said that it would be best to keep taking the new brand of citalopram rather than going cold turkey bit try and switch back to your normal brand as soon as you can. She said docs will say it won't make a difference but she has lots of customers say that it does effect them. Also the longest she's seen it effect someone is no longer than a week and a half x I hope that helps x

Should have been more specific. After switching back to your normal brand it shouldn't take longer than a week and a half to feel back to normal x

Hey Lois! I have anxiety and some depression so i have to say i been at this since Jan and i felt a lil better off med than on the med currently .

I did try Lexapro 10mg for 1 month.

Celexa 20mg for 3 and half months or more and now down to 10 mg .

Its been a tough road and i still feel unwell most days.

I live alone and try to get out but can be hard and with these intrusive thoughts.

What did you do to cope?

I know you only had anxiety.

Thanks!

to cope i took my xanex.

It's still early days since you changed your dose. So try your best to ride it out. Hopefully soon you will start to notice some positive changes. Lois said her benzo really helped her when things got tough so might be worth trying it to see how you feel. It will give you some relief. Maybe try taking half of one to start if you are worried but you will be fine if you take one. It might really help x

fabulous thank you potato x all symptoms are totally ramped up like at the beginning grrrrr x

That's alright no worries x it must be horrible after you've made all that progress. But don't worry you will deffo go back to normal! You might feel a bit funky when you go back to your original brand for a day or two until your body adjusts back again but it shouldn't last long. For me I felt a bit spacey and that was it x

ive taken my original brand again since yesterday and feel poo to be honest, cant wait until it settles and my mind is blooming racing x

Hello potato!

I tried this herb called passion flower last night and it felt ok for a bit afterward.

I then wake up like this ramped up anxiety.

I feel it this morning with ramped up anxiety.

You ever try herbs?

Thanks !

Natural remedies have not worked for me but my son gets anxiety and his wife will use an essential oil roller with lavender oils on his temples and back of his neck and they said it seems to calm it down a bit.

Also orange essential oils in a diffuser is suppose to be good for anxiety as well.

Might be worth a try, and it definitely couldn't hurt!

when i was going through my first withdrawal i tried everything i could but most things seemed to make it worse! the only thing that helped me was epsom salts x

Hello! i have both conditions anxiety and depression. It just seems these conditions got worse on meds.

So im going through a withdrawal at 10 mg? What can be symptoms of this?

I wasnt feeling great on 20 mg either for 3 and half months.

I dont feel like doing much and lay around a lot but do go out from time to time.

I feel a lil low now. Mornings are always like this .

It feels like it changes hour to hour on how you feel.

It can be very hard to handle.

It will settle I promise x it just takes a little time. Your brain and body are like wtf!? It shouldn't take long x hopefully it won't take long for you and your to settle down

I tried herbs and stuff but really didn't do much for me tbh. It could be because you calmed down a little last night that today feels a little worse for you. X it may have been a placebo effect because you knew you were trying something to help. Are you gonna try again tonight? Xx

I might try the benzo as the passion flower i dont know much about.

How you been feeling?

My body and mind feel like you said.

I feel foggy headed like out of it now.

Dont know if the passion flower any good with my med.

been walking none stop today x

Hi!

I didnt read all the pages but like the others are saying, your body and brain are definitly trying to adapt to this new dose. Maybe, the jump from 20 to 10 was to big and you shoulf of done 20 to 15???

How long have you decrease your dose?

Maybe going back to 15 will ease a bit....I dont know but wathever you do, you have to stick with it to ease your nervous system from playing with too many changes.

My previous doctor made me change dosages and meds sooo many times in the past 2 years. It really messed with my system. Now Im trying to go from 15 to 18 to 20mg. But I feel really tired etc.

I have to give time I guess.

I asked in a post but no reply😥

Anyway, you shouldnt be scared to take a benzo, it will definitly help your anxiety while this journey.

Yeah the passion flower might not mix well with your med x also it might not actually do much. If you are gonna try the benzo and you are worried take it in the evening the first time and see how u feel and if you don't like it you will be able to sleep x or try half and see how you feel then if you need take the other half. What strength are they? X

That's good that you are walking. It will deffo burn off some of the anxiety. Make you feel a little better too. How are you feeling today?

Hi Lolita sounds like you have been through a pretty rough time yourself. How are you doing atm? X

not great but trooping on, how you feeling? x

Keep trooping on! You are doing great going walking all day feeling like you do . Try not to let it be a setback because honestly it will go back to how it was before. Apparently its still the same stuff in the citalopram, but it's mixed with different ingredients than what you are used to so changing brands, your body absorbs it differently hence the side effects. That's what Ive been told anyway x I'm not too bad tbh had a few blips today with low mood but my 4 year old boy has been keeping me busy the past 2 days so been occupied. I'll deffo feel it when he goes back to his mums tomorrow lol

iam confused with the different brand drama.j know in the tablets the coating ingredients from different companies are different .but in the liquid form iam puzzled.

I increased my lexapro from 15 to 18 around 3 weeks ago by cutting my 10mg pill in half and quarter but since 10 days my prescription is now pills of 20mg. So cutting it to 18 is not that easy. I guess I was nit taking constant dosage so recently I feel really tired and rubbish. Yesterday I took 20 whish is what my doc wants me to take. A little more anxiety and tiredness. Stomach is a little more sensitive recently. But like I said, I think some days I was probably taking 15 and some other days more... So maybe that is it.

15 was not enough for my anxiety.

Hope 20 will be good and that the tiredness, anxiety, tummy, etc will pass. Mostly the tiredness. Cause having anxiety and no motivation since 2 years is really a pain.

I know lexapro and cit are a little sedative but hope 20 wont make me a zombie.

twenty of lexapro is like taking 40 of the celexa so more than likely the sedative qualities which is the antihistamine in the tablets will make you drowsy n tired.best regards

aw bless him, kids are great my little niece cheers me up x

the one that didnt suit me was the original cit liquid and the drops also look bigger plus in withdrawal your body is super sensitive to any changes x

i know in mirt the higher you go the less sedative effect it has x

thats weird i took a high dose once and i was like gumby.the mirt also made my vision all wobly.

thats weird i took a high dose once and i was like gumby.the mirt also made my vision all wobly.

on the celexa lots of folks on 40 feel very tired.

I'm not really sure about the liquid form but different brands definitely effect how you feel. I've seen it happen a fair few times. A girl at work,my partner, me, a friend had the same with mirtazipine. None of these were the liquid ones though x

I think it's important to try and keep taking the dose regularly and the exact dose every day because I do think these are some pretty strong meds and most people can be super sensitive to these horrible meds. 3 weeks is still pretty early days so hopefully over the next few weeks you will start to notice a positive difference x I'm on 40mg of citalopram which is 20mg lexapro and I did have upset tummy and feeling super tired but that has passed now mostly. I feel a little tired because of the citalopram but the same as I did on 20mg but it's only mild most days x so once you adjust it should settle down for you 😊

Mirtazapine is evil! The hunger is unreal. I would wake up at 4am every night and eat whatever I could fit in my mouth. Looked like a hamster with puffy cheeks. Oh and the breakdown it gave me too lol

i know alot about mirt and 15mg and below makes you more sleepy x

yes it probably makes you tired but a massive side effect is insomia, i have to take mine in the morning x

Hey i went out to store and gym for a bit and very tired like foggy headed over me today.

Some

it was deffo the change in liquid brand x

potato i was on mirt amit and cit all at once at one point, which is dangerous and carries a black box health warning, i came off mirt ages ago then when i was rushed into hospital and given steriods they tried me back on mirt and i was convulsing on the floor! but yes it makes you super hungry kind of miss the appetite though as fed up of nausea x

so as of this day you only take celexa.?n nothing else,

That sounds horrible! What made you convulse? Was it the mirtazapine or a mix of everything together? That was the same as me!mirt amit and cit. And my brain and body just caved in. It's crazy isn't it. I really do thing adding mirtazipine is dangerous to another AD I take a amit every other day to help me sleep but won't take more than 10mg.thats the most I will go. You on just citalopram now? X

Hey potato the dose is 0.5 klonopin.

Im just like nervous about that med that if i feel better with it i will want it more and more daily.

Then have to deal with issues withdrawal on that and celexa.

I been on 20 mg for like 3 months and went down to 10 due to side effects of feeling awful on it.

oh wow i did not know you where also taking amit.hmmmmm

Hello lolita! I just went down to 10mg from 20 mg for 3 and half months

I feel like unwell daily still on this dose as well.

I went on this for anxiety and depression.

Honestly try not to worry to much about what might happen or could happen. Easier said than done I know! I haven't managed to stop worrying about it myself yet lol x it should be fine just try to take it when things are really tough. X I was on a benzo for over a year twice a day and never had any withdrawals. Everyone is different though so just remember about it being addictive and withdrawals and it'll be fine I'm sure x sometimes it's nice to have a little break from this all x

Yeah taking it for sleep otherwise I'm awake all night. So I take one every other day so I sleep OK one night and not so well the next. I did go without for 6 days and didn't notice anything different. I've got a strip left and didn't bother to redo my prescription so once it's gone it's gone. Not too worried........... x for now lol. I will regret saying that I know it 😅

Thanks

Actually I have been on lex for around 6 months. Started at 10, then 15. last 3 weeks at 18 but like I said, I kinda play with doses I guess. Now 20 since 2 days.

you can cut it in half for a first dose. That way you will see...

Hey everyone any of you been getting any intrusive weird thoughts?

Are these anxiety or something worst?

For most people, me included in the everytime you change dose its like resetting the clock again so to speak, so it's like starting from the beginning. Not everybody but most from what I've read and been told on here. My advise would be to stick with the 20mg long enough for the side effects to dissappear and for the med to kick in and then see how you feel before changing again x it's so hard to tell how long it will take to start working or what is side effects of the tablet or what's anxiety. Lois and Toria on here know a lot more than meabout this kinda thing and will have some better advise so hopefully they can help. (no pressure guys lol) they have really helped me too. Whenever you need let us know so you don't have to do this alone and if I can help in anyway I will do my best

have you ever thought that taking another antid.every other day could be affecting you?i mean thats worst than a benzo or a sleeping pill in my opinion.that amit.is some strong s--t.

its anxiety magnified by the celexa.

It doesn't start having Ad effects untill it's at a really high dose of 150mg I think. I didn't really think of that tbh I'm worried now though x

Hey Lois! I think i have bad disorder and get them often home or away from home. These are very hard.

I try to keep busy but hard since i not working.

thats the same thing i was told of the seroqual i was taking for sleep.n boy did i have a rough time when doctor told me to stop and then withdrawals kick in an little did i know it was the seroqual.mixing too many anti d.is a no bueno.i believe in taking one antid.with only the benzo.

no one ever told me the seraqual was n antiphychotic.so i just took it.

My Doc and counselor want me to go on seroquel low dose.

They think im paranoid about meds too.

Is that any good for anxiety and depression and intrusive thoughts?

Thank you so much !

I really appreciate!

Its so annoying that changing a dose is like a reset. But I know I have to go that way.

I took my pill around 5 pm and around 4 hours later, it kinda kick and I feel a bit dizzy so I took my clonazepam.

that saroquel will knock you out.

Well i dont think thats for me.

They keep pushing it on me saying it work .

You gotta know your body since they dont.

I feel like that a bit on celexa.

I dont like seroquel either.

I prefer being on a ad and having my clonazepam.

How did you feel after taking your clonazepam? Maybe try taking it before sleep so you sleep through your side effects? Xx

I agree with you so I think I need to stop taking the amit. And see how I get on x I feel poo enough so hopefully the withdrawal isn't too bad. I'll have a think about the best way to do it x

i take a small dose of amit for pain x

the mirt just didnt suit me anymore, no i still take a small dose of amit for pain x

theyre completely normal ive had them for months x

its only classed as an antidepressant in high doses in low doses its more of a pain blocker but i agree every other day isnt good x

dont worry ive upped and downed dose of amit and was fine, you should really take it each night though x

i hate when doctors throw antid.at you for other causes .potato takes amit.for sleep every other day.toria takes a small amount for pain.they gave it to me for appetite.for crying outloud.it is an older antid.and thats the bottom line nothing more nothing less.and it comes with its own drama wether we take a small amount or every other day or for appetite.thats the bottom line.they give you crap like this amit.but they wont give a benzo.lol

and to think at the end we blame the poor celexa for everything thats happening.

totally agreed with you lolita.

Same here but mine is for sleep I only take 10mg though

I live never noticed any side effects from taking and from stopping the amit so that's good x

that you know of.

Hahah fair point lovely x it's so hard to tell what's what half the time. As long as the amit doesn't make me more depressed.

remember that mixing antid.of any kind kind comes with its pros and cons.forest gump said it best.lifes like a box of chocolates you never know what you going to get.that is exactly how i feel about antidepressents.

Thats what I do. I take in before bed.

And I take my lexapro around 5 pm.

thats the problem my docs give me everything lol x

you wont as its half life is 20 hours so youd have to stop taking it for longer than that x

my doctors try to give me everything and they did.but not anymore.i shut them down quickly.if the med is off label i tell them absolutely NOT!

i just want off them all, as unlike you bless you i never had anxiety before withdrawal just chronic pain and depression but i can deal with depression x

totally agreed .i can also deal with depression.but anxiety causes me physical pain.if im depress i take a cold shower n is gone.x saying lots if prayers for you toria.

I don't know what I would rather have you know x the anxiety is really hard work but the depression is horrible. Feeling so low! I've never had the tiredness side of depression though just really low mood x

It's so hard to know what to do with this bloody anxiety. It's hard to make a decision about everything lol x

i will take depression over anxiety any day.

Hello! I think i have bad disorder with these intrusive thoughts and stuff.

They come on daily and

I spend a lot of time resting which doesnt help .

I dont feel like doing much and force to do things.

I have brain fog lately on med as well cant think straight.

Thanks!

Try not to think the worst. I know it's hard to do but chances are you don't have a disorder. It's the anxiety and depression talking. And making you feel the way you do x forcing yourself to do things is good even though it doesn't feel like it at the time. It's best to keep as busy as possible. the Negative thoughts are with you because of what you are going through right now. Once you get used to the right dose they will get less x what disorder do you think you might have? If it's ok to ask x

Is it ok to ask what depression was like for you compared to the anxiety? Why do you find anxiety worse?

I think disorder it starts with a s and why do the thoughts come on throughout day and night.

It seems worse on the med .

I just change over a week ago to 10 mg.

Im not that busy because how i feel daily.

I do get out time to time for stuff but come back to apartment alone .

I still dont feel ok outside and get thoughts .

thank you lois x

Is it ok to ask what your thoughts are?

Some are harmful thoughts and just random thoughts that can scare you.

Sometimes i get triggers from stuff too.

Yeah and i feel out of it today again.

I feel like i wanna get some more sleep but eyes are wide open.

I lay around a lot more now than usual.

I cant focus on much other than my phone .

I do try to walk and gym for a bit but spend majority of time in apartment.

i find anxiety worst because it causes all kinds of physical and mental pain that is really hard to shut off on your own with out meds.the depression for me has always been controlable.i can control depression but not anxiety.

Right I see x you need to combat the negative thoughts as best you can until you start to feel better. You are still early stages since your med change so we have to wait until that settles a bit too x have you spoken to your gp about your negative thoughts? Just get out and about when you can x make sure the telly is on in the background while you check your phone x it'll help u feel less lonely for now x

theres always a sad cause for depression .unlike anxiety.

i have it all as have chronic fatigue but also have ocd so hate staying still x

i know! i just want to settle x

its all normal and will settle x

you have to just crack on and keep busy i had everything you had and still do but it was getting less until i used a different brand you havent got a disorder its withdrawal

all normal its withdrawal, i had that plus massive pain x

everyone is different some find depression harder some find anxiety harder for me steriod induced pychosis was the worst as it was both to a huge extent x

From reading your posts, it seems you have a lot of the same things that I had, and they are terrible! At one point it made my anxiety so bad I was a mess, and I developed a bad case of DP/DR because that is how your mind protects itself from the overload of stress, so it's scary but not a bad thing. I know that you are still in early days of taking the medication that you're on now and it takes awhile to get leveled off. I personally took clonazepam as needed for anxiety and it really does help tremendously. I read that you're afraid of taking it due to possibly getting addicted to it, or withdrawl but it really sounds as if you could use it right now until the AD kicks in. My suggestion would be to talk to your physician about that fear but tell them that you really need to take something, and make a plan with him or her to stop taking it once your AD starts working and you don't need it anymore. You will feel more comfort in knowing that you already have a plan set to stop taking it when it's time. Also, with intrusive thoughts, they seem to run wild when you're anxiety level is high, so once that gets back down to a normal level it will go away, or at least they won't cause you so much grief, and will come and go very quickly and won't stress you. Trust me, I've been through this over the past year and I feel better now then I did when I didn't have to take anything for it.

The thing with intrusive thoughts is that the harder you combat or try to fight them the stronger they get, they feed off that energy spent trying to stop thinking them. It's awful. The thing with those is getting your anxiety back to a normal level, and not trying to fight them, he is already aware that they are untrue and unwanted thoughts. But yea trying to combat them is definitely the opposite of what should be done.

Just an FYI. 😃

Hey potato thanks!

How you been feeling?

I just feel this dreadful feeling daily .

Its like your in the mind constantly.

Its always good to keep in touch daily.

Thank!

i had phychosis n hallucinations including sound vision n taste hallucinations from the celexa in the beggining stages.

Hey grounded ! I been at this 6 months.

I am at this for while.

I was on 20 mg for a while and got side effects galore and then down to 10 mg for almost two weeks so far.

I tend to lay around alot and just use phone .

I have no focus on anything but phone and use it to look up stuff.

I do go out to get air but tough sometimes.

I have both conditions anxiety and depression.

I seem to have gotten worse on these meds i think . Hard to tell.

I was more active off meds but now its tough .

Thanks!

Hey Lois ! Thats not good. What you do for that?

I feel like im losing touch with my problem.

I just get weird thoughts and feel unwell laying around alot.

Your advise definitely sounds better than mine it's good to know and will definitely try it myself instead of trying to combat them x 😊

Sometimes I just get confused with what is causing what symptoms. I never know if it's the anxiety that makes me feel really low because of how crap it makes you feel or if I am genuinely depressed. I think I am but it's hard to tell iyswim x

Is the fatigue because of the meds or something else? So does walking and keeping active help much at all? X

I feel the same way potato on what causing what and are meds making it worst or better.

Thanks!

Yeah it's definitely like you are stuck in your own mind! Once you start to settle so will all of your symptoms and side effects and they will become less difficult to deal with and eventually dissapear.as hard as it is it's just a few aiting game for everybody. Keep as busy as you can and try to keep occupied until the meds kick in. Try and avoid searching up too much about how you feel because it's just gonna make your anxiety a lot worse and confuse you more if you see something that worries or panics you x

I know i have a huge problem doing that.

And cant stop since i dont feel much keeps my attention.

at first i did not know the hallucinations where cause by the celexa.so i panic .so when i got more educated on these meds it no longer bother me.and i knew they will subside.but i always had my xanex ready for any surprise the celexa and my withdrawals from other meds where causing me.

keeping busy is the best way of combating intrusive thoughts, and i understand some people need benzos but i was too terrified to take them and ive had a hell of a time but knowing me i would of had withdrawal from them like the first time after just 8 pills so im glad i stayed away from them

the meds are doing both.the meds magnifies what ever your feeling.but also the meds are stabilizing.so it has its pros n cons.

ive had it from cit for 11 months the steriods in my opinion were far worse as i wanted to die every minute

i was diagnosed with fibromyalgia but dont know if i have it as it could be med symptoms x

omg.mine lasted three months.ibwas ready to give up .but once i was inform that it was a side effect.i push thru n they dissapeared.

i bet it is the meds causing you to have the fibro like symptoms.my arthritis was nothing but an interaction of celexa n ziplicone.but right way the doctor wanted to prescribe me rumathoid arthritis expensive meds.she was in shock when i told her i no longer had the pain and you are no longer my doctor.

Anyone get brain fog and cant think clearly ?

I have that today .

My mum suffers from fibro and she does have a lot of pain still works 50 hours a week bless her she's a trooper. She says the wort thing she gets is if she doesn't move around her muscles and joints sieze up. Hopefully you don't because that can't be very nice x

You will do x just keep going until your meds settle x

Try not to Google everything and keep looking stuff up on the Internet because it's a really bad idea. The brain is powerful and you will trick yourself into thinking what you've read is happening to you. It will just make you feel worse and give you more anxiety. You won't be able to notice any positive changes then and it's important you know whether the meds are working or not when you can. I know this because I done it myself and it would make my mind race so much

Sorry Lois wasn't meant for you lol x

Try not to Google everything and keep looking stuff up on the Internet because it's a really bad idea. The brain is powerful and you will trick yourself into thinking what you've read is happening to you. It will just make you feel worse and give you more anxiety. You won't be able to notice any positive changes then and it's important you know whether the meds are working or not when you can. I know this because I done it myself and it would make my mind race so much

Hi! I try not to but it happens due to looking at phone constantly.

I have this serious foggy head and thinking clearly is tough to do.

Try to occupy yourself because if you know its making you feel worse that's not good so you need to try your best even if it's looking less at the stuff. Try and do little things like the dishes or washing cloths or even making the bed. Just to pass some time, the more you do the easier it will get each time. You need to try and help yourself aswel as the meds. I know it's not easy but just try and see how you get on. Just keep going it will get easier. X you are doing great to come on here and let us know how u are.

Thanks! I do lay around a lot and feel like unwell . Im gonna try to hit gym for a bit and maybe walk. Might rain over here.

Are these withdrawl and startup symptoms from 20mg to 10 mg.

Its very hard to deal with daily .

We all just wanna feel well and get going in life.

This is like im living hour to hour on how you feel.

How you feeling today?

It is definitely like living hour to hour isn't it. It's exhausting. I would think its startup and withdrawal but that's good because it will go away eventually and should start getting easier. Exercise is good it will release some happy hormones so might feel slightly better for a bit. I'm not too bad thanks. Managed to keep busy for most of the day now I'm relaxing feel a little poop, it's the r morning anxiety I hate! Do you get that too?

That is awesome that you were able to not take them, not sure what I would have done during my worst times if I had not had them just in case.

And yes keeping busy is good for intrusive thoughts, keeping your mind busy even when you don't want too. By avoiding them and fighting them off you actually can make them worse, they take your energy that you're using to stop thinking them or figuring out why you would be thinking such a thing to make them stronger. Intrusive thoughts are just that, 'thoughts' and the reason they bother us so much is because they are not actually how we feel at all and that is why we get so upset, and normally they are about things we care the most about, or ourselves. If we didn't get upset about them then they wouldn't be intrusive.

Well yes mornings are bad since i think i get interupted sleep so that sucks.

I wake up cant get back to sleep either.

This is so hard when its going on for a while and feel like this daily mostly.

Well i have brain fog and just feel like out of it today .

I get those darn thoughts too and probably cause mind is tired from this.

I also get low from this stuff.

I havent been that busy today.

How do you feel when you go out?

think everyone gets brain fog in withdrawal

im always in agony but too stubborn to rest x

oh trust me i know how to deal with intrusive thoughts been in withdrawals for nearly 2 years, and i couldnt of taken them even if i wanted to as everything i tried in withdrawal simply made me worse x

most people on this post arent going through withdrawal, and to be honest the worst thing you can do is compare yourself to others as everyone is different and heals at different speeds (we all heal) i remember when i was going through mirt withdrawal reading a girls post and she said she was better at 12 weeks so i pinned all my hopes on that being me, needless to say that time came and went and i was still in withdrawal, but i did get better just in my own time x

Hello! So im on 10 mg from 20 mg and i just went to gym and walk.

I back home in my room now.

I dont do much at home though.

I dont turn the tv on because lack of focus.

Felt like a zombie walking and had some random automatic thoughts too.

These are very worrisome to me to get them randomly whatever you doing.

I feel like im fear of losing control of me.

I dont like it all makes me blah.

What type of thoughts you get?

I dont do much but went to gym and walk.

What dose are you on now?

Im on 10 mg now and i dont even know if that dose is enough for what i have.

i get thoughts and fear of everything but try to remember thoughts cannot harm you and they will pass, try and turn on the tv even if its only for background noise x

10mg is enough for a lot of people, im on 6mg as trying to get off x

Hello! I got this heavy head pressure and was pacing around last night after i took med around 1030pm.

What time you take your meds?

Didnt sleep much either .

Thanks!

i take mine in the morning as when i took them at night it made my sleep worse x

i use to take mine in the evening but it would jolt me awake.once i switch to mornings the jolting stop.

Same here x mornings are a lot better for taking them for me too

did you ever cry?.i dont understand the crying thing everyone seems to be going thru while on the meds.i never had crying spells.

youre the first person ive heard from that didnt have crying x

I had that last night for first time ever.

What is that from?

I took my celexa 10 mg last night and felt weird head sensations and didnt sleep good.

I had headache and just blah today um now im thinking about if made right decision on 10mg or if this med is even for me anymore.

Its been almost two weeks on 10 mg.

The frustrating part is being at this for 6 months.

How you doing potato?

I went for walk today and still feeling unwell. Just have lots of thoughts about meds and intrusive thoughts.

Hey x it's been a bit of a difficult one today with depression but I've got my little boy tomorrow so I'm looking forward to that so. He's 4 so he will deffo keep me occupied lol. Try not to get too worked up about the crying spells, it's gonna be a mix of the tablets, depression, and just you generally feeling poo x remember 2 weeks is early days so keep going you are doing great! It's been 6 months for me too since my "breakdown" so we can help each other! 😊

in one week ive been on a reduced dose for 12 months! these tablets work in their own time x

i cry before the meds because i had no idea what was happening .during the meds no crying at all.on the contrary i was mad that this was all anxiety that i created.i thank god it was only that.i remenber at the emergency after all my test came back normal i could not comprehend why i was healthy on all the test.my husband said i told you.which in return made me mad lol.

What side effects do you all get?

It seems like i have had a to z .

i had a to z plus the greek alphabet.

one i understood this was all anxiety n side effects.i did not let it bother me.i force my self to go to the movies etc.anything that made me feel weird i quickly tackle.

Everything that is listed on the leaflet they come with lol

I just had some life changes like moving to a new place and lost my mom last september.

I was doing ok until the move and all the changes with that.

I went on lexapro at 10 mg in Jan for month.

That didnt work out felt like awful.

I went on celexa 20 mg for 3 and half months and felt terrible as well.

Im on 10 mg for past two weeks.

Still not doing well.

I feel anxious about doing stuff as before i was doing stuff a lil better with my inital anxiety before meds.

Im not doing much either so more inactive.

Thanks!

I didn't either, I was too numb to feel anything, well on the 20mg that I was on for 6 months. I actually wished I could cry lol.

Me too! lol

its seems ive up dosed without wanting to as the liquid bottle was faulty and i now feel like ive wasted a year of my life as i feel like death again x

tell me what you have? x

i only cried at below 10 as i got my emotions back x

Omg Toria! What happened? Hopefully it will settle down for you soon because you weren't taking it that long and it will leave your system sooner rather than later x

im so annoyed potato, the different liquid drops were massive compared to my usual one so the bottle must of been faulty, have every single symptom back 😦 x

OMG.so your drops where of a higher milligram.wtf.

can you use old dropper instead???

Oh no that's horrible! Try not to worry because I'm sure because you haven't been taking the new drops for that long that your body will adjust back pretty quick! Let's hope so because I can't imagine how you must be feeling right now.! Bless you Toria. X try and go back to your normal dose ASAP x

yes lois im absolutely devastated x

thanks potato 😃 4 days i was taking them, just hope all the suffering ive gone through isnt for nothing x

im speechless.but i know you are a trooper.and you will prevail.bless you toria.

thank you lois, you just expect the drops to be accurate but they were huge, last night i had terrible burning like in the start x

Hey Toria!

Hope you feel better.

I have anxiety and depression.

I been struggling to get through the days.

I get the thoughts daily and feel un motivated to do stuff.

I get out for the random walk.

I think i have a worst disorder as well.

What side effects are you getting?

Thanks!

Well it's good you were only taking them for 4 days rather than a lot longer. I'm sure it will go back to normal honestly. I think in a week you will feel a lot better! You have been having a tough time lately with the brand change and now this, you really are a trooper! How are you feeling atm? X

i know the feeling i took an extra pill 2months ago and i got that bad headache like in the beginning .x

like boiled poo lol x

yes my head is really sore x

Hey gs something that helped me when I don't feel great is going back through the posts on here and highlighting all the positive things people have said on here and keeping a mental note so when I'm feeling low I have something positive to look back on. Especially if I am reliving symptoms and stuff x might be worth giving it a try x

to be honest i have so many symptoms it would take forever to type, you arent alone x

Hello ! I have been getting headaches daily. I feel foggy headed as well.

What you do for them?

Yeah potato my thoughts are just feeling like this daily and intrusive thoughts ramp up.

Do you think this dose 10 mg is any good?

yes i screen shot them x

i really think you need to just let your body settle xx

Hey Toria! My family wants me to get off the med.

They think i been at it for long time.

I feel unwell daily and just hard to deal with.

Thanks!

your family is not the one living with your issues.if i would of listen to my family i for sure would of been in a mental institution.

yes but to get off you have to get stable first lovely x

i feel like im in one today, exhausted but cant stop cleaning as mind bloody racing x

Yeah i know Lois!

Its just been tough with the meds .

My mind is off and getting side effects galore.

Im not really doing much other than some walking and some gym.

I was so much more active at least without the meds.

Today i have bad headaches and it seems everyday is tougher.

I know im probably in withdrawal.

it is your decision not your familys not ours not your doctors.you already know the consequences.

I would just really think about it before you do it. I know it's difficult when you feel like you do and just want to get off them. But if you come off them you will have to go through withdrawal and then let's say when you do come off them your depression and anxiety get worse. You will just have to go back on them again anyway and start all over again. I know your family are trying to help and that's lovely but they aren't the ones dealing with the issues so it's a lot easier for them to tell you to come off them because they don't know how you feel. The best people to take advise from are those suffering or who have suffered. Don't give up it's still early days! You can do this!

Like boiled poo 💩😂 awwww bless you x try and keep super busy if you can and it will settle down soon. You'll be so relieved when you do x I've got to pop to the pharmacy shortly and I'll see if I can get a bit more info from my crazy Ex and see if she will have any ideas, hopefully something that can put your mind at rest until you feel a bit better x

toria that is exactly how i combated the celexa drama bu cleaning n making my self to things i was even sewing for people for free just to do something.

Hey i feel like that now potato on 10 mg in withdrawl.

Its been 6 months so been a while.

What do you recommend.

Its like im having trouble coping with the side effects or whatever.

I dont know if this is right dose as my dose went down from 20 mg to 10 mg.

Yeah im not really busy . I try to get out for walk and gym time.

The bulk of my time is home and i cant focus on much which is frustrating.

I turn tv on but dont watch much of it.

I tend to lay around and feel apathy.

Thanks!

aw thanks potato, just spoke to girls in chemist, they said they can get me my original liquid from now on x

i crochet to keep busy and do online surveys, at the start i couldnt even focus enough to pick up my hook x

remember that when you change dose is like starting the process all over again so in my opinion the six month is irrelevant .

hey lovely you havent been in withdrawal 6 months have you? thought you reduced recently? x

she reduced two weeks ago.

agree! look at me nearly 12 months on a lower dose and was only just starting to settle, the brain shouldnt be messed with constantly x

wow early days x

do you think it was a chemical difference of dosage??

chemical difference or dosage?

Hey toria i was on lexapro for 1 month and got off that.

Celexa 20 mg for 3 and half months and reduce to 10 for two weeks.

Doc ask me if i wanna reduce or get off.

I am just off lately toria. I think its both conditions and withdrawal.

I feel like im just unwell.and trouble coping. Feeling foggy and feel moody.

Potato how you feel?

im not sure to be honest but staying on the same one now, but the drops were huge in comparison x

all you describe is completely normal do you have any pain? nausea? dizziness? sore tummy? nightmares? insomnia?