When will this get better 😥

It's hard to tell really. I was on 20mg for 4 years and was doing great. I was lucky because I had very mild side effects and they worked in about 3 weeks. They seemed to stop working about 5 months months ago so some sausage of a doc put me on mirtazapine too. And that's when I went downhill fast! So adding more meds is not good. I'm 6 weeks in now x how are you feeling at the minute?

Hello! Still feeling off. How you doing?

I been on reduced dose 10 mg since last friday. I been at this since January when i was on lexapro 10 mg for month and that didnt work so i went on celexa which worked last time around a month.

I been on the celexa 20 mg since early feb. and side effects galore so im trying reduced dose.

I went to gym and hardly any energy.

I get these intrusive thoughts which are terrible .

I dont get why i keep getting them .

I use to have them about my health years ago but now its different .

If you don't mind me asking what are your intrusive thoughts? X I sorry to hear you are feeling off still. I'm the same my morning anxiety is really difficult to cope with atm. It seems to be less most evenings and a bit easier to cope with x not always. It's so disheartening when they worked in the past but taking a lot longer this time. What has your gp suggested? Are you seeing a a councillor or anybody else?

the 10th of june will be a year of me on a reduced dose and still settling x

Hello! I just went down on the dose to 10 mg from 20.

I am seeing a counselor for this weekly.

I just get weird random thoughts of something going bad which doesnt relect who i am.

Im not really doing much daily but do try to get out from time to time.

Just a general feeling of not feeling well and not up to doing much .

Toria what type of effects do you get still if any?

How you doing ?

hey, i still get lots of symptoms, migraines, pains, nausea, anxiety, fear, doom, dizziness, but i just try to crack on and ignore them, at the start it was constant x

That could well be a side effect of either the tablets or anxiety tbh. Anxiety is a nightmare to live with. It could be both. Dropping a dose is pretty hard to do aswell so it could be that that's giving you horrible thoughts. Does it come in waves for you?

Hey ! Yeah it comes in waves .

I get triggers too like watching certain things or hearing about stuff.

I was very active before the meds so i know that for sure.

I feel more restless now but dont feel like doing much if that makes any sense.

My anxiety seems worse than before meds .

Is 10 mg a decent dose?

Do you all have just anxiety?

id never had anxiety until i started withdrawal and everything you mention i have or had x

i only just had anxiety.and ten milligrams is awesome for me.i totally recover on ten.it was a rough 8months but here iam writing about it fully recover.and still taking my celexa.praying for you.

How did you all manage all this daily?

It seems very difficult for me .

I tend to not do.much and feel unwell or panicky and get all types of symptoms daily . Its not fun for sure.

I been at since Jan . as i noted .

no matter how bad you feel you have to keep busy

yes keep busy or else you will drown in your madness.that was one thing my phychiatrist recommended to keep busy even if its force.

I have anxiety and depression so it's difficult to deal with both at the same time. Some symptoms mimic each other so I can't tell if it's the anxiety or depression or both sometimes that I'm suffering with. You will have less interest in activities and hobbies and even small things. It's hard to do but you need to force yourself to do things sometimes. Start with stuff you are comfortable with. Like a little bit of tidying or housework. Even if it's even smaller, fluff a pillow, straighten cushions, fold cloths it's all about keeping busy when you can. Some people do need more than 10mg I was doing really well on 20mg and now 40mg so I'm on the highest. When the waves come how do they make u feel? X

What hobbies did you used to enjoy?

Hello! I use to love the gym and music and movies and stuff like that.

I barely can make it there now and when i do its not the same as before .

I havent been active and seem to be isolated now.

Yeah so things are different now.

i sew for a living and my trigger was my sewing machine go figure.so i force my self to sew anything.n the grocery store was also a trigger so i force my self to grocery store

Pick one of them things and force yourself to do it x it's gonna be tough and you won't enjoy doing it but if you force yourself you will start getting used to it again and soon it will be a lot easier and you will have something to help while you recover. You don't have to do it right now but keep pushing. You'll eventually get so used to it your anxiety won't be a problem when you do it anymore. I used to love ps4 games and been playing guitar for 10+years. The past few days I have put on a game I used to enjoy playing

First time it made me feel sick and extremely anxious

Second time in a little bit less

Third time even less

You have to try and crack on x it's so much easier said than done so don't beat yourself up if you can't. You will get their x

they were very different for me too but i had to build myself up slowly, in the beginning i couldnt even focus on the tv

Yeah i cant focus on tv now or reading.

My phone draws my attention and looking for remedies for my condition.

I also think i have a bad disorder now.

I feel terrible when i get those thoughts.

I went to therapy and the grocery store with my cousin.

I

I felt lil anxious at store and feel out of it today and somewhat low.

I spend the majority of my time at home now. Im not working and single.

I have both too conditions too.

Thanks!

Both conditions? Just be careful what you read online because if you see something about someone not getting better or someone saying negative things about what you are going through it can make you a whole lot worse x when is the next time you see the gp? I can't remember if you said you take anything else for the anxiety x sorry my memory is terrible atm xlol

please just remember i was like that at the start, i now walk before breakfast, do some cleaning, have lunch, walk after lunch, i do online surveys, then tea and if im not going the golf course i walk again, i couldnt even stand music at the start, now i can wear headphones and listen to certain music, and i love comedies on tv! unfortunately im one of the unlucky ones that gets terrible pain in withdrawal but like the anxiety etc i just try to ignore it, the amount of times ive thought i had cancer through this is unreal x

Hello! Yeah anxiety and depression.

I see him early June.

I dont really do much lately . Just like lounge around like a zombie.

I might go to gym after for a bit but of course my energy will be low .

I use to be able to have lil bit caffeine before and now forget it.

I hear gut health can play a role in how you feel too.

I been eating ok but not the best appetite. I tend to like to snack around more than usual.

The other issue is i think i have some other disorder other than what i have.

I need to start thinking more clearly.

I do have a benzo but scared to get tolerate and have withdrawls.

I also tried buspar 5 mg and that wasnt so great . Buspar is an anti anxiety med.

Could i be getting withdrawls going down from 20 to 10 mg?

Thanks!

omg .ditto with the cancer

dont be scare of your prescribe benzo.i be more scare of the celexa.x

madness isnt it x

Are you living in the UK? What do you think the depression symptoms are for you? Anxiety and depression do have a lot of the same symptoms and it all gets mixed together so it's so confusing to tell what is what. The benzo will be instant anxiety relief within an hour. It will completely chill you out. Your body and mind will relax a little it might make you sleepy but it will be noticeable. Try not to worry about withdrawal from the benzo just yet. Most people won't get withdrawal unless they are on a high dose for 4+weeks. Apart from our Toria on here bless her she seems to have had everything going and not much luck (she's hardcore having to deal with what she's been through bless her) is your benzo 2mg or 5mg? I used to take 10mg nearly everyday for a year and never had withdrawal coming off. Its hard to tell if you are getting withdrawal from going down from 20mg to 10mg but I think you probably are and deal g with everything all at the same time x your gp will be able to say better than we can x

yes i really thought i had brain cancer an breast cancer also.anxiety is unbelievable.x

no body says it better than we do.hell with the gp

I did reread my message and thought "oh s**t they are gonna kill me" for saying that lol x sorry! It came out wrong lol

my phychiatrist says that depression is a downer.while anxiety is an upper.anxious folks have insomnia and irratability while depression folks are always sleeping etc.

ive had my breast checked twice and left one is sore again 😦 also been thinking my birthmark is cancerous and cervical cancer its just crazy x

i havent slept through a night for 11 months grrrrrr

Hey i went on it due to some changes in life.

I had some anxiety and depression.

Since being on these meds it seems worst than ever . I mean it worked before and now being a pain.

I feel anxiety now as i chat just sitting here for no reason.

I live in the US.

Thanks!

yes i have had mammagrams because my arm pit glands where swollen .but guess what it was anxiety.i know that blood pressure meds n antid.cause sore breast.

not sleeping =anxiety depression=sleeping.so there is a big difference

lol

What if you have both 🤔 I find it easy to fall asleep but difficult to stay asleep. Wake up with anxiety and I feel like poo but feel a bit better before sleep so doze off OK x

to have both is a lethal combo.

I had a few good things for you to check on the NHS but didnt realise you weren't in the UK. The area I live in the south west is one of the worst places for help with mental health. I'm very lucky I have the NHS so gp appointments and anything to do with this is free. Apart from my prescription for meds is only £8 a month. Depression is so horrible aswell. Did you try a benzo yet? X

Yeah im not working now so im on state insurance and on disability for this which sucks.

I tried a benzo for two days a month ago and didnt take it the next day and felt so anxious for some reason.

It helped the days i took it i guess some relief.

Its a tough deal and very complex issue .

You know one thing leads to another .

We go on the med for anxiety and then it leads to other issues (side effects).

I am sensitive to these type of meds.

so where your changes in life mental /physical/health.??hope you dont mind me asking.x

thank you x

Kind of both . I moved and other stuff .

I was on celexa before a while back and it worked on 20mg in fairly quick time and now its not.

why did you come off.?me myself like nigel i need this medication.i have suffer for three decades with this anxiety bs.so after all those years of suffering i would never come off the celexa.

Hey Lois- Your right i should not have come off and thats my problem.

I thought i didnt need it and i be ok.

I was ok for a while and then bam it hit me again worrying about stuff.

Now im dealing with it since Jan.

I was on lexapro at first for a month and didnt agree with me so i went on celexa 20 and reduce to 10 now.

I gotta decide what to do next.

Thanks!

It's so much trial and error with these meds. Getting you on the right one with the right dose ect. I'm not working either. I got fired last week because of my mental health on mental health awareness week of all times! Gotta laugh though. I may have "accidentally" knocked about a dozen bottles of wine off the shelf on my way out too 😯. Have you tried a beta blocker? Might suit you more than a benzo? Less side effects apparently.

Oh god tell me about it! It's double the stress and pain! What did I do to deserve this? I am a wonderful human bean! Lol

human being.not bean mr potato.lol .my spelling is also at times like my anxiety.crazy

How does that work for anxiety?

I have both anxiety and some depression.

I need something to help me productive again .

I do get out from time to time.

I use to go out no problem before the meds in Dec.

Anyway now things have changed.

Yeah ! How long do we wait until we get relief?

How you doing on your dose ?

I reduced to 10 because 20 was getting issues and now cant sleep and anxious.

I use to exercise 7 days a week and now since meds i am down to not that much and feel anxious there .

I lay around a lot and try to get going for walk and some exercise at gym.

It is do hard to go now and when i do it is not the same .

Haha I didn't even notice I said bean! It's because I'm a bit of a dum dum! I like Mr. Potato it makes me sound more sophisticated lol. X your spelling is fine (most of the time) 😜

A beta blocker won't stop the intrusive thoughts or anxious thoughts but it will get rid of the physical side effects of anxiety. Shaking, tight chest, fast heartbeat, sweating ect. It's pretty safe with few side effects. It won't make you feel calm like a benzo but it should relieve physical symptoms. We are both in the same position having both so we can help each other through the tough times with the help from the experts that have being helping us on this thread. I would have lost the plot a few more times than I have if it wasn't for Lois Toria and Laura. They have been amazing

I went through this once before and this is really harder. Honestly i been at this almost 6 months and its not getting easier.

Can a beta blocker interact with celexa?

Arent those for performance anxiety and blood pressure?

I need something for the thoughts too would be ideal .

Hey you ever hear of passion flower or skull cap herbs for anxiety?

I guess these work like benzo to increase the gaba in the brain.

Probably not as strong or longlasting as those.

I think we need more gaba for anxious minds.

The Celexa works on serotonin but how do we know we are deficient in this ?

Maybe we are getting too much of that at first until our body adjusts to the level.

Its all trail and error which sucks.

They are used for performance anxiety and blood pressure but are used also with ADs to help ease physical symptoms. I think they can make you feel a little more tired but they are used quite often with ADs from what I hear. I think the only med that will help with thoughts is going to be the citalopram but a benzo would be the next thing I think. It will relax you enough so the thoughts don't seem as prominent. Six months is a long time to try I personally think you should talk to your gp if you aren't feeling any relief yet x what did you go through last time if you don't mind me asking? X

I was on lexapro for a month and celexa 20 mg since feb 13th until last week .

I was thinking of weening off the doc said its up to me.

I have stayed on 10 for now.

It was bad anxiety . I have had anxiety for a long time too .

I took the celexa and bam like a month or so later felt better .

I am not active now and feel confused .

Thanks !

if you can get pure passion fruit juice that helps a touch.perhaps you need an snri.not an ssri.

It took me 7 months now and 3 different doses, and just in the last 3 weeks since decreasing to 15mg did I feel better. I was about to tell the doctor to switch me or something because I felt desperate and thought 7 months should be plenty of time to work. I think once I hit the right dose, I feel better then I have since I can even remember. I'm sure there will be down times still for a little while, and lifes stresses as they come, which that happens to everyone but as of now I can say I feel really good.

it just worries me as its always the left one that is sore! its withdrawal causing my insomnia as before i reduced i was sleeping through x

mental health help is bad all across the uk x

they can also cause insomnia and make some people depressed

have you ever try some benadryl for your insomnia.i take it when ever i have insomnia.the celexa already has antihistamine properties so is not n issue with interactions.

i take anti nausea with anti histamines in, im sure it will pass when i settle on the dose x

Can they make you depressed? Why in the world would they give them to me if I have depression? Uggghhh I do feel pretty low if I have a beta blocker actually x

potato have you not realised yet that docs know nothing about meds lol x

absolutely

What about diazipam? So when I was at my worst anxiety wise I would take a beta blocker and it would help with anxiety but my mood would be low. My doctor is so lovely and seems to know a little about Ads but obviously not. Better not take the beta blockers anymore then. Thanks guys 😊

Well that just great! 😊 All this time I've been taking them to help and it turns out they can cause depression uggghhh well I had depression before the beta blockers so atleast I know not to take any any more! Well this sucks lol. Thank you I wish I just googled it in the first place lol

i know for a fact blood pressure meds give depression im a surviver of that.

well i picked up my liquid citalopram and it was a different brand, had really bad few days x

oh no .

They gave them to you to help with the anxiety while the A/D are kicking in. I'm sure it's just a short term treatment and once the A/D's start really working then you won't need them anymore, or rarely. Even when I took Clonazepam for extreme anxiety and panic attacks after I would feel a little low, but I would also be relieved of the anxiety and panic, and the low mood wouldn't last that long. It was a very fair trade in my opinion. So if you get really anxious I wouldn't be afraid to take one for help while waiting for the A/D to kick in because as we all know once anxiety gets too high its much harder to get back down, and it likes to spiral out.

Hey Grounded so glad to hear you are feeling a lot better. I seem to be getting their just very very slowly! If I look back on how I was 5 weeks ago I'm definitely better just not by that much. Its only when I look back I can see it. Thank you for your reassurance about the beta blockers because it would be nice to know I could have something as a back up if things got tough again. And with the ups and downs it's bound to happen isn't it? Lol. You are so right about when the anxiety spirals its so hard to get it back down again x

That's great that you're feeling a little better, its baby steps for sure but once you start to notice it yourself thats a very positive sign! And about the beta blockers, as long as you're taking the citalopram and it's on its way to working there should be no problems with taking it as needed. Why suffer? Thats how I looked at it. Hoping you continue to get better each day! 😃