When will this get better 😥
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I'm coming up to 6 weeks now on 40mg citalopram and the past few days have been really difficult again!
morning anxiety is so hard to deal with
My mood is really low
I was finding evenings a little easier but that doesn't seem to be happening anymore.
My anxiety is still bad
I just feel like giving up atm and that these tablets aren't gonna work for me anymore. It's so hard not to go to the doctors to switch to something else. How much longer do I have to keep going for? Surely I would have seen some improvement by now.
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Grounded Potatoghost
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I know I've posted this before but I know exactly what you're going through! So does everyone here. I was also on 20mg and reduced to 15mg and I went through so much on the celexa for the first 6 months, I though for sure it wasn't the right med for me, and that I was going to feel horrible for the rest of my life until I got the dose right and then it just happened, I feel better now then I have since I can even remember. So, what they are saying is correct, give it time, and do NOT be afraid of taking a benzo temporarily until things level off for you. As long as you're keeping up with your GP and let him know as soon as you are feeling better that you want to discontinue that you will be fine. It will definitely help you through this part of it! Try taking a low dose in the morning, and at night, or even once a day because kolonopins are a very long lasting benzo one may get you through the whole day (it did for me).
Grounded
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Sorry Potatoghost! That was meant for gsquez77 lol!
gsquez77 Grounded
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Hello! doc says to go down on 5 mg for a while .
Wean off is what to do.
gsquez77
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I been on 10 mg before this.
Lolita40 gsquez77
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Did he suggest to take klonopin?
Or even an other ad?
Did you tell about your fears of having something else?
lois95799 gsquez77
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good luck.
Potatoghost gsquez77
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Are you going to take anything else?
toria_07298 gsquez77
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are you going to go down to 5mg? x
Grounded gsquez77
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I wish you the best of luck, I hope that 5mg may help. If not you can find the one that works and you will feel better!
gsquez77 Grounded
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is buspar or klonopin any good with celexa 5 mg?
gsquez77
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Taking Celexa 5mg in morning . Buspar in morning.
Klonopin 0.5 mg as needed for anxiety.
Any good?
lois95799 gsquez77
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me personally i would not take two antid.together.the klonopin is fine .
gsquez77 lois95799
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lois is buspar antdep?
lois95799 gsquez77
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it works on the serotonin just like celexa
lois95799
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buspar n celexa may cause seratonin syndrome.google it.
lois95799
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there are dangerous interactions from taking celexa with buspar.dont know why doctors would prescribe this combo.no bueno
Grounded gsquez77
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Kolonopin and celexa work very well together yes! that is what I took, now that its working I just take the celexa.
Grounded lois95799
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Agreed, I would not suggest to take them together. Also, I've never really heard anything good about Buspar, my sister took it and it just made her tired and sleepy. The kolonopin was a lifesaver for me, it didn't make me sleepy, or tired or anything. Just normal!
lois95799 Grounded
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thats the same with me celexa n xanex litterally save my life.
Lolita40 gsquez77
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Did you address those questions to your doctor????
Beside saying to go down to 5mg, did he say or suggest something?
gsquez77 Lolita40
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He said klonopin and buspar to go with celexa 5 mg
gsquez77
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i feel very anxious about all this stuff .
gsquez77
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im starting celexa 5 mg in morning with klonopin as needed.
Any other suggestions?
Lolita40 gsquez77
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so he gave you a prescription for buspar ???
gsquez77 Lolita40
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Yeah he gave it to me before.
gsquez77
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Lolita im nervous and confused about this stuff.
I.mean the dose and stuff.
Thanks!
gsquez77
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Its like my mind is constantly going.
lois95799 gsquez77
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take your benzo.
Potatoghost gsquez77
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Take your benzo to take the edge off a bit x also remember now you have changed to 5mg you need to start from the beginning again so don't panic if you don't feel better right away x it'll take time x I would avoid the buspar but it's up to you. Let us know how you are getting on x
toria_07298 gsquez77
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i know the feeling x
lois95799 toria_07298
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saying prayers for you toria.
Lolita40 gsquez77
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I know. You are making big decrease. Its a fast withdrawal. If you feel really too bad about it, call your doctor. You decrease by 50% everytime which is big.
I know your doc said to take celexa 5mg and klonopin and buspar....but did he gives you advises on doses etc??? And you dont mention what you really talked with him....
I would definitly avoid adding buspar right now. So you really want to stop celexa..... just focus on that and KLONOPIN! Take it like we said more than once a day.
But to be honest, I think you will probably need to be on a antidepressant to help your anxiety /depression. But if its not celexa, it can be another one. You should have discuss that with your doctor. Buspar is not having the best reputation for dealing with those. But no matter what med you take, you will have to face the few weeks to stabilise, etc .
gsquez77 Lolita40
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Oh ok . So im going to stick with celexa and klonopin.
Celexa is gonna take morning now and not night.
Yeah buspar no good .
Should i have stayed on 10 mg?
I guess im just impatient with the way i feel.
gsquez77
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I didnt really sleep good .
lois95799 gsquez77
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you can still take the other half an stay on ten?with the klonopin.is not too late yet.
gsquez77 lois95799
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Yeah lois im just confused now with way i feel.
This is very hard .
Im gonna take now in morning.
Any suggestions?
toria_07298 lois95799
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thank you lois that means alot just so frustrated as id made so much progress and now im a mess again x
gsquez77 toria_07298
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Hey Toria! i am too.
Too much switching doses and brain is confused.
Im taking 5 now in morning.
toria_07298 gsquez77
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the way you feel will be down to all the changes in dose, now you just have to hold on tight until you settle, at least you can use a benzo to help, they went bad on me when i was going through my last withdrawal x
gsquez77 toria_07298
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Any other suggestions for this toria?
I feel just like my head is off and mind is foggy.
toria_07298 gsquez77
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personally i think youre doing too many changes your body cant keep up! youve changed dose or meds 4 times in 6 months! even changing the time of day you take it could knock your nervous system, you need a plan and stick to it x
lois95799 gsquez77
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you are very lucky you have the benzo.the majority of people suffer thru celexa drama with out the benzo.
gsquez77 lois95799
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Lois what do you think as far as me taking celexa in morning as needed.
gsquez77
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i meant take celexa 5 in morning and klonopin as needed .
My
lois95799 gsquez77
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for sure the benzo taking when needed should ease your withdrawals from the celexa.my phychiatrist prescribes benzo when lowering or weaning from celexa.
toria_07298 gsquez77
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my opinion is stick on 10mg until settled x
lois95799 toria_07298
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my opinion is also stick to ten .
lois95799
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that was meant for gsquez
gsquez77 lois95799
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Hey lois i took a 5 today. is that ok?
lois95799 gsquez77
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is it ok for what.?please be specific with your questions .we seem to be going around in a circle.
gsquez77 lois95799
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Just saying i take that today.
toria_07298 lois95799
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i think she means ok to take 10mg again, to be honest we probably know more than doctors x
gsquez77 toria_07298
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I took the 5 mg this morning.
lois95799 toria_07298
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she says she took a five today is that ok?my question would be what are your intentions with the celexa.is still not late to take the other 5milli.but from your post i have read on here your doctor wants you to wean and you agreed.so what ever withdrawals may be coming from the reduction expect them to be just that.dont panic you have your secret weapon the benzo.
Potatoghost gsquez77
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I agree with everyone else about sticking to 10mg x
toria_07298 lois95799
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just hope they have a shorter withdrawal than me! i definitely wouldnt up and down dose again x
lois95799 toria_07298
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absolutely not.but it is what it is.c
gsquez77 lois95799
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Hey i know that. I feel like head pressure and just weird today on 5 mg .
Went to gym couldnt do much there.
Got some racy thoughts.
lois95799 gsquez77
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you bee feeling weird for over six months now.so one day aint going to make a huge difference.
lois95799
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how old are you gsquez?
toria_07298 gsquez77
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the half life wont affect you yet x
gsquez77 toria_07298
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im 41 and yeah i know just gets harder you know.
Um this is terrible feeling .
lois95799 gsquez77
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so i figure you are a male ?
toria_07298 gsquez77
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you need to understand that there is no quick fix to this, and how youre feeling could even be down to lexapro withdrawal or from going from 20mg to 10mg you arent letting your body settle because you keep making changes, i know youre desperate to feel better (arent we all) but it takes time x
toria_07298 gsquez77
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the half life is how long the drug takes the leave your system
toria_07298 gsquez77
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i know its terrible lovely but no simple fix unfortunately, ive been poorly since 18th august 2017
gsquez77 toria_07298
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Yeah i know toria . Just the mind and body take its toll on you.
Is their anything other than benzo for relief?
gsquez77
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I just wanna get back to feeling ok with doing things without it being chore.
I love the gym and stuff but not this way.
Im not as busy but still get out and do some things.
Toria whats your worst symptoms?
gsquez77
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Anything you recommend for sleep?
Lolita40 gsquez77
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Well, first of all if you were put on ad 6 months ago, thats probably because you needed it. You should of just stick with it at that time and take the benzo. Because you are definitly not stable cause of all the changes you made.
People can understand what you are feeling here because a lot of us are also trying to stabilise with our med. There is no quick fix.
We suggested you several times to take your klonopin but you dont seem to do it. I take my klonopin at night and it heps me going to bed and if I need, I take a smaller dose during the day.
You were feeling miserable from going from 20 to 10. Its 50 % decrease! Huge!!! And now, you just did the same by going from 10 to 5.
We are not sure how to help because you dont really say what you are going through and what really is your plan with med. And Im not sure you really talked about it with your doc and what he thinks about it.
We all wish to have remission. Same for you.
But you need a plan... Either you really gives celexa a chance or you ask for a med change and STICK with it with the klonopin. Its hard but you will be fine if you do so.
toria_07298 gsquez77
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i have suffered insomnia all my life so i take sleeping pills but since coming off cit i havent slept through a night, i was getting better until the faulty bottle, for me my worst symptom is fear and pain x
Potatoghost toria_07298
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It's gonna settle down soon! You've done so well to get this far and this will be a little setback I'm sure! Hopefully over the next week your body goes back to the way it was x I've got my fingers crossed for you xxx
lois95799 gsquez77
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ambiem/lunesta good for sleep
lois95799
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i see you been around the different chats asking about amitryp./trazadone/benzo/seroquel/celexa/lexapro/buspar/.have your doctor prescribe you all these meds.because if he has i get me a new doctor asap!
lois95799 toria_07298
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perhaps you need the cit for ever .i feel no shame been on cit for life.if not cit perhaps something else toria.sending lots of virtual prayers to you.i pray every day for the folks suffering from this horrible illness.
Potatoghost gsquez77
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I know you must be feeling pretty desperate right now, we all are in our own ways but I think if you are asking about all them different drugs it seems to me that you might see if you can try them, or you are trying to make yourself feel at ease by hoping something else will make you feel better.
The thing is all of the drugs you mentioned have their own side effects and problems that come with taking them the same as celexa, some even worse
If you change drugs you will have to go through withdrawal and side effects
If you add another drug you will have to go through side effects
If you change dose you will have to go through side effects
And everytime you do this you have to restart the clock again and that's really not helping you.
I feel you are only making yourself worse in the short term and long term
Please listen to what everyone is saying on here. We are all trying to help you the best we can even when we feel like poo ourselves. I know you feel horrible and are desperate but you really do need to stick to one dose of an Ad and a benzo and wait till you feel better and stick with it.
It's changing all the time that's making you feel like this so why on earth would you want to add more drugs or change again?
You will keep feeling like you do if you don't wait for one to settle and keep changing and I'm sure you don't want it to go on any longer than it has too? If atleast if you stick one does out long enough and you don't feel any better at least you can say you tried that dose that didn't work and move on to the next and see if that helps. You need to have a plan x
gsquez77 Potatoghost
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Hey i understand . So now im on 5 mg and klonopin as needed.
Yeah i tried celexa 20 mg got so many side effects.
I understand what you saying.
Potatoghost gsquez77
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It's not gonna be easy and each day is going to be different. Some may seem harder than others but try and think of it like this.
If you stick to the same dose,
Everytime you take one its one day closer to feeling like your old self and getting better.
Power through and take your benzo when the hard days hit. Keep going gym if you can, keep as busy as you can and be strong x
You can do this! 😊
gsquez77 Potatoghost
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Hey buddy i get desperate because they might wanna put me in hospital.
Thanks!
gsquez77
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Is 5 mg even any good at this point?
Lolita40 gsquez77
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5 mg is pretty pretty low to manage any anxiety/depression to my opinion.
Does your doctor knows about the fact that your family wants to bring you to hospital?
Are you living close to your family? I mean maybe you would benefit from going to there place and not stay alone while you settle.??
Potatoghost gsquez77
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Has anyone said they want to put you in hospital or is it something that you are worried they might want to do? I'm sure that won't happen because even though you are struggling you are still functioning even if it's hard. You are aware of what's going on around you and unless you are going to harm yourself or somebody else I'm sure it won't happen.
I agree with Lolita
Anyone who can stay with you or you can stay with untill it settles down for you?
toria_07298 Potatoghost
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aw thank you lovely lastnight was horrendous had 2 hours sleep xx
toria_07298 lois95799
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bless you thank you im a mess x
Potatoghost toria_07298
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Oh no bless you x is it worth seeing your doc and asking for anything to help you sleep? Or would you prefer to just stick with the citalopram and not add anything else? The problem with not sleeping, it makes your anxiety worse! Just remember this is only because of the accidental increase and you weren't taking it for long so these withdrawals will go away soon! It's just the anxiety being a d**k!
gsquez77 Potatoghost
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Hey a feel a lil woozy today.
Took the klonopin last night.
Slept a lil better .
How you feel toria?
toria_07298 Potatoghost
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hey, i already take sleeping tablets, convincing myself i have cancer again literally terrified x
Lolita40 toria_07298
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I know what it is to be afraid of symptoms and of having fears of a disease....Poor you! Try to let go of those fears and just tell yourself its you anxiety playing tricks on your mind.
maybe do something that makes you feel happy today. that can help! Treat yourself!
lois95799 toria_07298
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wow even with sleeping tablets no sleep.?
Lolita40 gsquez77
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At first when you take klonopin, it can make you like that but it will decrease. Maybe you can cut the pill in half...
Potatoghost toria_07298
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It's deffo the anxiety making you feel like that. Remember anxiety feeds anxiety so if their is anything that would put your mind at ease about thinking you have it try that and see if it helps x I'm pretty sure it's just the anxiety being a bunghole. Remember you weren't worried about it being that until you changed your dose accidentally x
Lolita40 lois95799
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Do you think its citalopram that gives you insomnia? You take in in the morning?
Taking magnesium sometimes help to relax and for sleep. Also, you can listen to meditation for sleep at night. Go on YouTube and check for mediation for sleep.
Lolita40
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oups...that was for Toria!
lois95799 Lolita40
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idont have insomnia.i was refering to toria not been able to sleep with sleeping tanlets.
Lolita40 lois95799
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I know, I make a mistake when replying....sorry!
lois95799 Lolita40
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i dont know if you have been following torias drama or not .but she has been thru hell with all her med issues.i pray she gets better.she certainly is a well educated trooper thru all her ordeals.x
toria_07298 Lolita40
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hey lovely i never had anxiety until withdrawal, i literally feel like ive wasted a year of my life because of a faulty liquid bottle x
toria_07298 lois95799
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2 hours the fear is unreal x
toria_07298 Potatoghost
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very true! i hate my brain x
Lolita40 toria_07298
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Thats really awful!
In march, I had to take antibiotics for sinus infection and I ended up with candida in my mouth and throat. For almost 6 weeks, it felt like my ad wasnt working. Like I wasnt absorbing as well. My anxiety ramp up. I clean my eating habit and took probiotic but it took a while to be back okay.
Its really sad that the change of liquid bottle scrapped the whole thing for you. How long did you take the wrong med?
Hope you settle soon.
gsquez77 Lolita40
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Hello took my celexa today morning at 5 mg.
Feel a lil low and tired out of it.
Took my klonopin last night got some rest.
gsquez77
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i do too toria.
gsquez77 lois95799
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Yeah just looking for other options in case.
lois95799 gsquez77
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what ever you do stick with ssri.the next option would be in my opinion the snri.an of course the benzo.
toria_07298 Lolita40
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hi, i use epsom salts in the bath and yes i take it in the morning, when i was stable on 10mg my sleep was decent but since withdrawing i havent slept through the night, was getting bigger chucks until i accidentally updosed x
toria_07298 lois95799
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aw bless you lois thank you for that ❤️ x
toria_07298 Lolita40
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hi lovely only 4 days x
Lolita40 toria_07298
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So you took a bigger dose for 4 days.
I am just a little confuse with the whole story...sorry!
I really hope you stabilise soon!
lois95799 Lolita40
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yes the dropper was faulty so the doses where higher.
Potatoghost toria_07298
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Hang in their Toria x hope today is a little better for you!
How is everyone doing today?
toria_07298 Potatoghost
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a teeny bit better today x
Potatoghost toria_07298
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Yay! that's really good x hopefully this will be you on the up now. And the dose increase is starting to wear off, fingers crossed x
lois95799 toria_07298
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so happy for you.you will get better .you have the eye of the tiger.
toria_07298 Potatoghost
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hope so potato thank you x
toria_07298 lois95799
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fingers crossed, thanks lois x
Potatoghost toria_07298
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Try not to think about how you will be tomorrow or in the evening if you can. I always tell myself on a good day, hopefully tomorrow will be better and sometimes when it's not i feel worse for getting my hopes up. Hour by hour is harder to do but better in the long run. I've got my fingers crossed now you are gonna start getting better. X
lois95799 Potatoghost
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finger cross
gsquez77 lois95799
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Hi! i was crying yesterday .
I feel unwell today too.
im slept decent .
lois95799 gsquez77
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crying is healthy
laura45992 lois95799
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I havent commented in a while bc we have been on vacation. While getting up and going was hard, I was pleasantly surprised that my anxiety would be gone the minute we left the condo. However, since being home Friday night, my anxiety hasnt left me except when Im sleeping. I'm shaky, sick, and exhausted. I dont know if its just being back to the "real world" or what. To be honest, after three months on the meds, 7 weeks on the increased dose, I would have expected some improvement by now. Sure, I did well on vacation, but I think it was only bc I had so much distraction. I have a med check appt with the psychiatrist tomorrow. I dont really know what to do. It doesnt seem to be doing any good. I think any improvement Ive had is a result of therapy and not the meds. Its discouraging.
toria_07298 Potatoghost
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thanks lovely ❤️ not stopped today, less time to think x
toria_07298 gsquez77
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yes crying releases dopamine x
toria_07298 laura45992
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maybe 10mg would of been enough for you? do you have different symptoms now than before meds x
lois95799 laura45992
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you may think the meds arent doing anything but guess what they are.those chemicals in the celexa dont stop working .your results of any improvement is because of therapy n the meds.trust n believe.every one expects miracles with this celexa but celexa is just a tool.best regards
laura45992 toria_07298
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Toria, I only had occasional anxiety before the meds. Now its constant. I am always shaky now. Never before. I get low mood for no reason now. Never before. I get intrusive thoughts now. Never before. Things have only gotten worse since day one. Dose could be too high. I have no idea.
laura45992 lois95799
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Lois, I dont think theyve stopped working. I think theyre either too strong or not right for me. My best day on these meds is still worse than my worst days before the meds. 😦
lois95799 laura45992
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what milligrams are you taking??
laura45992 lois95799
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30mg
lois95799 laura45992
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thats a big possibility.i was on 20and that was unbearable .i drop to ten al though suffering from other med withdrawals i quickly felt better on ten.i know the drop from 20to 10 seems a bit dramatic but i was desperate and thank god it work for me.
toria_07298 laura45992
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aw bless you laura, i never had anxiety until i started withdrawal, i really feel for you i know how hard all this is x
toria_07298 laura45992
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can i ask why you went to 20mg? x
laura45992 toria_07298
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I started on 20 (per drs recommendation). They upped me to 30 after a 2 week blip. (before I found this page). Ive given 30mg over seven weeks and my gut is telling me its too high. I shake almost like I have low blood sugar and eating almost always helps to some degree. I think going down to 25 for a while might be a good idea. I'm generally very sensitive to meds. I do take Xanax 0.25mg as needed (usually 0.5-0.75mg a day).
toria_07298 laura45992
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i totally agree laura these are strong meds, i shake alot as my cns is shaken, whatever you do do it slowly! usually docs start people on 10mg x
lois95799 laura45992
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what do you mean after a two week blip.to me blips happen when you are already settle not before.
laura45992 lois95799
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Well, I guess they thought the dose wasnt high enough because i went from feeling great to bottoming out. I was/am clueless.
lois95799 laura45992
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how many weeks where you on 20?
laura45992 lois95799
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6 weeks
lois95799 laura45992
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that was not a blip .not according to all my research.that was just delay side effects.blips happen after you been stable or recovered.so if you have felt good on 20 there was no reason to up your dose.by upping your dose to 30 did you find the comfort you and your doctor where looking for on the higher dose?
toria_07298 laura45992
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doctors know nothing about these drugs, i learnt the hard way, if youre prepared to feel bad to get off them or reduce do it but slowly if thats what your gut is telling you x
laura45992 toria_07298
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No Lois, I feel worse.
lois95799 laura45992
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if you are feeling worst than before i think is time to decrease back to the original .and just be patience with recovery .i once had a blip after been recovered that lasted two weeks .but i wasnt going to let that blip or the doctors side track my journey.thank goodness i know a whole lot about this medicine.so when ever iam feeling bizzare i know is the celexa.and the knowing keeps me from panicking.best regards
toria_07298 laura45992
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so you had good days on 20mg? x
gsquez77 toria_07298
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Hey i took melatonin to sleep and feel groggy .
I am on 5 mg celexa now and feeling unwell like some crying spells and irritability and just low feelings.
I also getting headaches too and intrusive thoughts.
Any advice?
Thanks!
toria_07298 gsquez77
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yes stick it out and dont change dose anymore, you are confusing your body and brain and all you mention is completely normal x
laura45992 toria_07298
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Toria, I had a few good days on 20. Still nothing as good as I felt before the meds.
toria_07298 laura45992
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what is your gut telling you to do? see im getting off them regardless they just dont suit me but understand some people need them x
lois95799 toria_07298
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i have tough question ?what would happen if the celexa side effects stay with you after coming off.what would you do?x
toria_07298 lois95799
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its doubtful lois as ive had times when i felt normal and also webt through this with mirt x
lois95799 toria_07298
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oh ok.how are you feeling today.
toria_07298 lois95799
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had a better day yesterday, today rubbish again just typical withdrawal, the only way i could stay like this is if cit has done permanant damage as i wasnt like this before and if thats the case everyone who is on it is screwed x
lois95799 toria_07298
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why is it that we are screwed??????
toria_07298 lois95799
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because if its done me permanent damage it would do the same to everyone dont you think x
lois95799 toria_07298
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no i dont think so .kate cogs n my sister where on this med for many years and are fine now that they are no longer taking cekexa.and how about the millions of people on ssri that dont post on here.if that was the case about permanent damage to the brain it would of been taken off the market long ago.i for one think theres more to it than meets the eye.our own health mental health has something to do with it all.
Lolita40 toria_07298
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Taking antidepressants for a long time sure change the brain. I think depression or anxiety affects the brain in a way also.
But changing doses and meds a lot affects the nervous system. My gp (before I got my psychiatrist ) would change doses, add med, change med, etc so bad if I would say I still felt bad on my follow ups. Even after only 2 or 4 weeks in a change. That have messed with me big time in the last 2 years.
And in october she wanted to try to stop ad to see how I would be. I wasnt stable before quitting. She made me stop in 2 weeks... That was a bad withdrawal. Felt like a junky. Shaking, vomitting, no sleep, panic attacks, bad thoughts, depression, crying spells, so dizzy and foggy, migraines, you name it.
I restart the med in november and I am starting to stabilise now. It was a long journey.
gsquez77 lois95799
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Hey toria i feel sick daily and on 5 mg and crying and really unwell.
Um i feel awful not really well.
Lolita40
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Nervous system takes a long time to recover. One step foward, 2 back, 3 fowards, one back, etc. Its a non linear process. But it needs time, and stability.
lois95799 Lolita40
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by experiencing everything you just describe of course your brain n your nervous system is going to feel like poop.
Lolita40 lois95799
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Yes you are right.
Now Im sticking with lexapro. And my new doctor/psychiatrist is really nice and she was soo in shock to see how many time my gp change doses/ meds.
Im now getting more and more good days/weeks and way less anxiety. If course not perfect but sooo better.
Lolita40 gsquez77
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Saddly, I am not surprise that you feel this way. Too many changes lately. And too much lowering without stabilising on each dose.
How much klonopin do you take every day?
toria_07298 lois95799
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so your previous comment doesnt make sense at all loos sorry
toria_07298 Lolita40
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everyone heals x
toria_07298 gsquez77
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give it time lovely and stay on a dose until you settle, you can do this x
lois95799 Lolita40
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good for you.so happy to hear positive stories
lois95799 toria_07298
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which part did you not understand??while me and you might have damage brains from celexa there are millions with no damage brains from celexa.
toria_07298 lois95799
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why say what if i still feel this way when im off? imagine if someone said that to you when you felt at your worst, how would you feel?
lois95799
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unfortunately all medicines come with pros n cons
lois95799 toria_07298
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my apology toria i was told what ifs from my doctor .and it was not pleasant.because of the unpredictability of this medicine iam prepare for the what ifs.from reading surviving antid.it open my eyes to alot of info.
toria_07298 lois95799
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well i believe i will fully recover, and if i dont then i will deal with it
lois95799 toria_07298
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i believe you will recover.i pray for you every day.we cant let nothing side track us.
gsquez77 lois95799
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Toria i felt everything today.
Im confused dont know what to do.
toria_07298 gsquez77
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how are you feeling today? x
gsquez77 toria_07298
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Hey Toria! still feeling it like spaced out and foggy and feeling weird.
I slept a bit .
Im on 5 mg Celexa.
I feel like my head pressure.
Thanks!
toria_07298 gsquez77
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that will pass in time, ive got it back now because of dose change x
gsquez77 toria_07298
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Yeah but just not active toria.
They wanna put me somewhere.
I feel a lil unstable and get thoughts.
I just laying down now. Cant think clearly.
Thanks!
toria_07298 gsquez77
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whats stopping you from going for a walk? i go 3 times a day no matter how bad i feel, the thoughts cant hurt you, you have to distract yourself x
lois95799 gsquez77
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since you dont want to listen to me.at least listen to toria.for crying out loud.
gsquez77 lois95799
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hey lois yeah i know you want me take klonopin? does it help with feeling blah and foggy headed?
i feel so out of it toria right now .
I cant think straight.
Thanks!
lois95799 gsquez77
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i only suggested you take your prescribe meds .is that simple.
gsquez77 lois95799
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oh ok im on celexa 5 mg and klonopin.
Yeah i changed dose too much now .
They wanna go back up too.
lois95799 gsquez77
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what ever we advise your only going to do what is norm for you.best regards and good luck.
gsquez77 lois95799
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I will always take any advise giving to me now.
Im very scared and nervous about this.
Thanks!
toria_07298 gsquez77
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who wants you to go back up? what you need to understand is even if a dose change was going to work it wouldnt happen in a few days! and the only way to settle is to stay on a dose long enough! im concerned with how often youre changing dose x
gsquez77 toria_07298
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Yeah i know . They called me doc office and said i should go back up on dose .
I can also stay where i am too on 5 mg.
Im concerned too about that toria.
My body and mind feel it indeed.
Thanks.toria!
lois95799 gsquez77
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again listen to toria.only been helpful
gsquez77 lois95799
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lois you been very helpful too i guess in a nervouse state i have hard time making decisions due to it.
I just wanna feel well because they wanna put me somewhere so i scared .
toria_07298 gsquez77
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if it were me id stay put until you settle, but it depends on if you think you need meds x
toria_07298 gsquez77
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lovely your brain isnt rational at the moment, for instance i googled something today which i hadnt done for months and months because of accidental updose my brain is flying, convinced myself i had cancer and got a doctors appointment for today, been checked and no lumps found, so trust me i know how your brain is right now, im sure everyone wants what is best for you but they dont understand how these meds work, please let yourself settle and try to keep occupied x
lois95799 gsquez77
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i understand your fear i have been there.but you gotta at least trust the people that have been in your shoes.the folks that dont suffer from this illness havent a clue.if this forum is your crutch then i would suggest taking advise from experience folks like us.after hundreds of post about your issues you should be able to take bits n pieces from this forum an come to a healthy conclusion on your journey to been well.
Lolita40 lois95799
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Wouldnt she be better upping to 10mg and stabilising to that. Cause she decreased immensely lately and I think she is in too much of a withdrawal. And 5mg is pretty low.
I have read some on the survinving ad that sometimes suggest to up back to the previous dose and settle there.
How dont know, just asking?
lois95799 Lolita40
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you are absolutely correct.but the problem here is fiddling with the dose is not helping.you just cant go up n dowm like a sea saw n expect dramatic changes in days no mam.and thats taking doctors advise how crazy is that.yuck.
lois95799
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i meant to say doctors orders!!!!
toria_07298 Lolita40
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she would need to do it quick as i updosed slightly too late and my brain had made too many changes, still trying to get stable 12 months on x
Lolita40 toria_07298
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yes, like going back to 10 now and just stop the up and down changes!
Lolita40 lois95799
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If she go to10 now and stick really stick with it and take her klonopin.....Then she can have a chance to recover....Thats my guess.
Lolita40 gsquez77
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If you past by, just read the suggestions....
Would you be willing to take 10 and stick with it and klonopin like 1 or 2 times per day untul you settle?
lois95799 Lolita40
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thats what i would do.quickly!
toria_07298 Lolita40
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id take the minimum benzo she could as her body will be sensitive now like mine was x
Lolita40 toria_07298
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Yeah, but she definitly need to stick to a plan like that.
Its hard going through so much but it will be better if she ease her nervous system by staying on routine doses.
lois95799 Lolita40
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absolutely
gsquez77 lois95799
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My brain is unease now . Feels like its getting bad .
I went to gym and was so loopy with negative thoughts and driving.
Im getting irritable too and stuff .
Took me klonopin half helps a bit .
Feels like your not thinking clearly.
Is this tough lois .
Thanks!
Lolita40 gsquez77
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Gsquez, did you read what Toria, Lois and me have wrote/suggest you?
Of course you feel miserable, your body is in withdrawal big time. Take another half if too much anxiety or before bed. That will help.
lois95799 Lolita40
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taking half of tablet is just slightly touching your anxiety .iam sure the prescription does not say take half.
lois95799 Lolita40
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and i also strongly advise not to drive while you on these medications .
lois95799
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that was meant for gsquez
gsquez77
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So i was on 20 mg for 3 and half months too many
Down to 10 mg for two and half weeks then 5 mg for 4 days so far.
Thanks and your all awesome!
Lolita40 lois95799
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Yes gsquez ! I think Lois meant to address this last message to you.
Lolita40 gsquez77
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Yes we know. But on each doses, you never gave enough time!!!!!
You should go back to 10mg and stick a lonnnngggg time and settle. And take more klonopin!
So what is your plan.
gsquez77 Lolita40
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Is 10 enough for anxiety and depression?
That the question?
gsquez77
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What you on lolita?
I felt terrible on this stuff celexa.
im still on it .
lois95799 gsquez77
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im on ten and completely recovered.
lois95799 gsquez77
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higher doses for depression n the lower doses for anxiety.thats what my phychiatrist says.
gsquez77 lois95799
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Ok so 10 mg is decent dose.
Um so i felt weird on it for two weeks
5 mg isnt much at all.
Thanks!
Lolita40 gsquez77
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Actually Im on lexapro which is very similar to citalopram.
It took me long to stabilise. Months actually because I was changed too many times from differents antidepressants and doses and my doctor made me stopped all of it. It was bad. But I have to say that I feel way better but when I restart lexapro I told myself I would stick and not change med. And klonopin helped me. I will withdraw this klonopin when I will feel its the right time. Now I just try to focus on recovery.
gsquez77 Lolita40
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that sounds like me .
How did you feel with all changes?
lois95799 gsquez77
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i felt weird on ten for 8 months .but i put my big girl panties on move forward.you are lucky to have that benzo.most folks suffer without any anything
gsquez77 lois95799
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Im not really working with this.
I struggled to drive. i get thoughts i dont want and spacey and foggy daily.
I try the 20 mg lois for months and wow had side effects galore.I still have them too but i hate going to gym now with this stuff.
My friend said i look like im on something.
I also feel like losing control and not that busy feeling like this garbage.
Thanks!
Lolita40 gsquez77
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I take ad since 12 years for anxiety.
2 years ago, I started a professionnal burnout and my anxiety also raised. Me doctor increased my dose but every 2 or 3 weeks when I would go see her for my follow ups, she would switch medication or add something,etc. I did probably 8 or 10 changes in the past 2 years until last november when I came back to lexapro after breakdown from going without an antidepressant for the first time in 12 years. It was a huge mistake.
Name a side effect or symptoms, I had them all and Im am hypocondriac so every symptoms would make me fear the worse.
I began feeling a bit better but mostly the depression first. Anxiety is better since april but more since the last few weeks.
So yes, give yourself time and make klonopin a friend.
gsquez77
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What effects will i have going back on 10 mg after 4 days or so on 5 mg.
Lolita40 lois95799
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OMG!
I dont think I would of made it without the benzo. I was so afraid to start taking it 2 years ago but I kind of accept that it helps me. Im taking a tiny dose now (0.25 or half of it) but at different time, I took more.
You were good to wait so long without it.
Are you doing good now?
lois95799 Lolita40
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iam totally recovered and iam still on 10milli.it took me 8whole months but it was worth every pain and agony that i went thru.i also would of ended in a mental institution without the benzo.
Lolita40 gsquez77
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Nobody gets the same side effects but for me, its headaches for few days, increased anxiety but it settles. Foggy and spaceyness also. But thats all "normal" side effects you have to deal with (remember klonopin) and be patient with your body/brain. Drinks lot of water, good food, take a walk, a bath, take naps, rest and focus on recovery.
3 months is not long you know. At 3 months, I wasnt all recovered. I am not all recovered but going there I guess.
And therapy for your anxiety is a must! If you were put on meds in first place, thats because you were not feeling good for a while before that.
gsquez77 Lolita40
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Well i take how i feel before than after.
gsquez77
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I felt unstable today like i think i have something worse too.
I dont feel like doing much and therapist think im doing worst.
gsquez77
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I am suppose to go to trip soon but who knows about that.
I been at this for 6 months so everyone concerned going downhill.
Lolita40 gsquez77
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You said you took lexapro 1 month and then celexa 3 months....So thats not 6 months?
You are going downhill only because you never stayed longer than 3 months on the same medication and same dose.
Maybe celexa is not for you also....We dont know. If you had slight moments of feeling a tiny bit better at a certain dose, thats a good sign. And if you continue, you have ups and downs but the more you keep going, the more the ups are there and more often .
There is other antidepressants also. Not one suits everyone but there is surely one for you. But dont start changing and changing. Just give time to a med. Remember....it took me 6 months and Lois 8 months...
Lolita40 gsquez77
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I didnt feel like doing anything for months.
Thats depression /anxiety.
gsquez77 Lolita40
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Took my klonopin and i was on celexa 20 mg for 3 and half months and celexa 10 mg for celexa 5 mg 4 days. and
lexapro for 1 month.
Thanks!
toria_07298 lois95799
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yes like me! the benzos make me worse x
toria_07298 Lolita40
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your story is similar to mine, i just wonder how many drugs we would of had to try if we didnt say enough is enough x
toria_07298 Lolita40
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and me 11 months to nearly settle on 6mg x
lois95799 toria_07298
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your situation is alot different than most on here .you are weaning off this medication for medical reasons.my intensions are/is not to wean off because this med has me stable .if i would of known what i know now about antid.i would of never let the doctors treat me like a guinea pig.
lois95799
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i for sure would of stay on my first ssri i try. instead i was telling doctors that the med. was not working after two weeks .of course they werent working i went by what the doctors told me two weeks.what an idiot i was for believing that in two weeks i would be back to my normal self.so iam on hundred percent sure that the effexor would of work for me .thank good ness for my phychiatrist because my regular doctor was a dum cumquad about these meds.
toria_07298 lois95799
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my situation nearly 2 years ago was exactly the same when i came out of hospital getting ploughed with drug after drug to try to calm anxiety brought on my steriods i didnt even need lois
lois95799 toria_07298
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so for sure is real different .because you where put on these meds because of the anxiety brought on by steroids.i was put in these meds because i have/had severe anxiety brought on naturally by my brain.your case for sure is a malpractice case.
Lolita40 toria_07298
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I have to say that meds helped me a lot through all those 12 years but the last 2, I was schitchinh too much. Now I starting to settle...I really cross my fingers!
toria_07298 lois95799
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i was also put on meds for fibro, migraines and severe depression (in the past) but i believe the meds have caused the scar tissue on my brain x
toria_07298 Lolita40
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you will settle! x
Lolita40 toria_07298
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Oh! Im so sorry for that! Any chance that can heal? I wish you all the best.
lois95799 Lolita40
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iam one of those folks for sure that needs this medicine.i suffer for three decades with anxiety.and finally i said enough is enough .when my nervous system started giving me pain.i knew i had to do something.so for me to feel well moving forward i would not trade my feeling good for curiosity .
lois95799 toria_07298
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my mother has scar tissue/brain lession in her brain brought on by severe migraines she has had all her life.
lois95799 Lolita40
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so after 12years of these meds helping you what happen???
toria_07298 Lolita40
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dont think so unfortunately x
toria_07298 lois95799
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lois my migraines got worse after meds, ive had scans, the neurologist wanted me off certain meds x
gsquez77 toria_07298
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So im up and feeling foggy and a lil headache.
I had my klonopin last night.
Im thinking take celexa today or night at which dose?
My brain is confused now.
Anyone getting thoughts of stuff?
I tried some hemp gummies .
Thanks!
lois95799 toria_07298
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of course your migraines got worst .these meds in the beginning cause migraines/headaches.so how many times have you come off antid.?see i never had any type of medical issues lucky me.so before any antid.how where you dealing with your medical issues.
gsquez77
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i mean like racy thoughts.
Thanks!
Lolita40 lois95799
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I did change different ad in the 12 years but always settled after finding the right ad/dose. 2 years ago, there has been lot of changes at my work and after a while, I had a professionnal burnout and my anxiety ramp up. So doc was changing my med like every 2 weeks. I think I was not staying long enough on each med/dose to really recover from that depression /burn out /anxiety.
We learn dont we...lol!
lois95799 Lolita40
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bingo
lois95799 Lolita40
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in those 12 did you ever wean off the medicine??
Lolita40 gsquez77
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gsquez, what are your plan ?
I asked you a few times but you doesnt answer or answer something else It not clear.
I have a question.....Why did you took med in the first place ? Anxiety? Depression ? Did you have it since a while?
Lolita40 lois95799
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Only once during my first pregnancy a year after I started...And it was easy. But took it back when baby was 8 months. Anxiety came back. I have a anxiety disorder. And last october I was ask by my doctor to quit (zoloft at the time) because he thought I was over sensitive etc. After 6 weeks, I had to be hospitalize for 2 weeks. I feel into big panic attacks and depression.
Lolita40 lois95799
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Bingo for what ? lol
lois95799 Lolita40
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once again from reading everyones horror stories from weaning meds only to get back on again and go thru that whole s--t process again i would never come off the celexa.my motto is if it aint broke dont fix it.
lois95799 Lolita40
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bingo.for learning alot lol.
Lolita40 gsquez77
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Your symptoms might not be fun but they are normal because of you decreased, etc. And your anxiety can also cause those.
Im not sure about the hemp? With klonopin and med not being adjust....Just keep it simple and avoid stuff like that for a while. Dont know if you drink or take drugs but I would not if I were you right now.
We are not you, but if I was at your place I would take 10mg at the same time every day and klonopin 2 times a day and ride it out like that.
Lolita40 lois95799
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oh okay! Yess I did !
Lolita40 lois95799
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Yes I accept the fact that I need those med and its fine.
lois95799 Lolita40
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that a yes for me too.
toria_07298 lois95799
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lois i hardly had any issues before meds! anyway im off for a walk with my headphones in, speak later x
lois95799 toria_07298
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have a safe walk toria.x
gsquez77 lois95799
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Yeah toria same here. I was not this bad before meds .
I did have some issues but not at this level.
Thanks!
lois95799 gsquez77
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every one is so different .my issues where severe before any meds.
toria_07298 lois95799
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i understand and so were mine! wanting to end your life as youre so depressed isnt easy either but i had cbt etc and improved
gsquez77 lois95799
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Hey Lois! Yeah sounds like we all different.
How often you take klonopin when you on meds?
toria_07298 gsquez77
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so what do you want to do? go off meds and deal with original problems or give a dose a try for long enough to see if it helps? x
Lolita40 gsquez77
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So, why really where you put on med?
I mean, you must of had something or had anxiety or depression to be prescribe those?
Lolita40 toria_07298
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I asked her thoses questions and more and never got any answers.
Everybody wants to help but we dont know in the first place what she really had to be placed on med and what she wants.
I understand its hard but its harder to help without knowing.
xx
lois95799 toria_07298
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i had cbt talk therapy acupuncture nothing work except the celexa.
lois95799 gsquez77
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i took it as much as i needed it.when ever i felt weird i pop a xanex.
Lolita40 lois95799
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Same with me. Anxiety runs in the family, my mom and grand mother so I think I kind of heritate from genetic. But also my childhood, ... When I got to university and work after, thats when it all came out.
gsquez77 lois95799
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Hey i took 5 mg and will decide tomorrow what to do. I do need a long term plan.
I went on for anxiety so now have both.
I had some form of anxiety for long time.
I was very active before said meds.
I was a gym rat before and now its tough to function there all like this.
lois95799 Lolita40
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my whole family suffers from anxiety .i have 13 brothers and sisters plus my mom.
gsquez77
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My doctor said to.stay off boards.
gsquez77
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My family has some form of anxiety .
I think i got it the worst now since it not under control.
Can klonopin make you depressed?
toria_07298 Lolita40
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i know x
toria_07298 gsquez77
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they all say that the idiots! x
lois95799 gsquez77
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i am sure your doctor meant doctor google.lol
toria_07298 lois95799
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no lois they mean the internet in general, the face my doctor pulled when she found out i had my own facebook group (knowledge is power) shes retired now funnily enough x
lois95799
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if it werent for these boards you gsquez and i would be in a worse situation!!!!period
lois95799 toria_07298
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yes i know what you mean.my phychiatrist is totally fine with forums.but she says dont believe all the crap that web md puts out .and if you go on forums stay positive and dont feed into the negative comments.
Lolita40 lois95799
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I agree.
But the thing is googling symptoms is bad. And finding a good forum group is not easy. I did that but I have to say that this forum is the most positive one and the one I found the best support. Katecog did helped me few months ago. But again, everyone can give you advise and if you just keep asking and not taking advises or listen properly and put that in place in you life, then it wont help. Im sure you know what I mean!
And doctors dont have to know if we chat on a board..... Thats my personnal life si my doctor doesnt know.
lois95799 Lolita40
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if it werent for katecogs my life would of been in a dired situation .i listen to what she had wrote to others and that made a huge difference for me.
lois95799 Lolita40
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how do you know its a her.?lol
lois95799
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how do you know qsquez its a her?
Lolita40 lois95799
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I actually dont know but i think I saw you guys thinking it was an her!??? But we dont know.... To me, the responses are always so vague! She (well, let's say), ask for help, then we reply and get nothing. We dont ask for personnal info just to know a little more I guess.
It feels like the person scream for help about the symptoms, then get answers, but ask again just like if she didnt read our replies......
lois95799 Lolita40
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i ask before if gsquez was male or female .i think gsquez is male .woman suffering from this illness usually stay with family members .males in the other hand are very shy of the circumstances.i could be wrong.gsquez never answer my question.lol
lois95799
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men and woman react totally different on these meds.thats why i ask if gsquez is male or female
Lolita40 lois95799
Posted
That makes sense....I get no reply also and Im sure he reads all...anyway
lois95799 Lolita40
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of course gsquez is reading everything.lol
Potatoghost lois95799
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Hi everybody x hope ur all doing OK x I'm having Internet problems on and off at the minute so just wanted to say, you all haven't scared me off so don't worry 😜 and I'll be back on the here tomorrow fingers crossed x maybe sooner if Talktalk weren't the worst Internet provider in the world!
Lolita40
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How are you guys doing today?
Toria, are you a bit better?
Im good but its only the tiredness I still get. But its better.
gsquez77 lois95799
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Hello im male! Thanks!
How potato been?
gsquez77
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I been trying to see family members and friends come visit.
Um went to store with my friend and i was like out of it too and had a few intrusive thoughts.
gsquez77
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Anyone have intrusive thoughts at home or while driving or at places?
toria_07298 lois95799
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i didnt stay with relatives x
toria_07298 lois95799
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wow if i was gs id be really upset reading all this, that person isnt well have a heart!
gsquez77
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You know im awful at dr google.
When my anxiety was ok i never googled a thing.
So yeah now i think i have other disorders.
Um i use to have health anxiety and now its on my disorders issues which is awful.
lois95799 toria_07298
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any how .i knew he was male.females react different to these meds.the monthlys /pregnancies/menapause/etc.
lois95799 toria_07298
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well i stay with relatives.is healthy to be around family and friends.
lois95799 toria_07298
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i have a heart if i didnt i would quickly kiss this forum good by.iam here for the well being of the celexa .not to side track anyone from taking celexa or any benzo.
lois95799 Lolita40
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i feel fantastic.thanks to the celexa.
gsquez77 lois95799
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Why should i be upset?
gsquez77
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Toria?
toria_07298 lois95799
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what?
toria_07298 lois95799
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i was with my partner 😃
Lolita40 toria_07298
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Nobody wanted to be rude or anything but we all try our best to help one another . Maybe sometimes we get impatient dealing with ourself and also helping out others. Mostly when unanswer..... I dont know. Everyday we come around and support (get or give).
We would not be here if we didnt want to.
xx
lois95799 toria_07298
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well thats family. hellooooo
gsquez77 Lolita40
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Im not upset . I just enjoy the helpful input and chatter.
lois95799
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a partner a friend family dam even a dog is consider healthy while going thru this crap.come on toria.lol
lois95799
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your partner is considered somebody toria.i said in my post family or friends .your partner is consider more than a friend.any how gs says he is not upset.
lois95799 gsquez77
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aint nothing like chatting the truth.x
toria_07298 lois95799
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i stayed where i live HELLO!!!
lois95799 toria_07298
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i stay where i lived also.and family an friends where always around everyday.
Lolita40 toria_07298
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I live with my husband and kids but when I was a mess, and he had to leave for work/travel, I could not stay alone. My mom had to come over.
I think she (Lois...you are a she right!?...lol) meant that girl tend to want to be around partner/family or friends when feeling unwell and guy isolate a little more. Not everyone but maybe a lot of time.
toria_07298 Lolita40
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just going to leave you guys to it, hope you all get well, stay well etc, take care! x
Lolita40 toria_07298
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Why Toria?
Are you mad or something?
We dont want you to leave... Seriously, I dont understand. No body was against someone.
It makes me sad....
Lolita40
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Hey, I kind of felt tensions around since a few days but I dont get why we all have to go that way. Why not just step back and take a fresh new start.
Cause even if people have disagrement, I saw all of you helping out each other....right!?
lois95799 Lolita40
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yes iam female.this isnt a first for toria .she takes everything too personal.but is all good we are all entitle to our experiences and opinions .no love lost.and me been one hundred percent recover iam more than able to give advise.peace toria .hope you get well soon.
Lolita40 lois95799
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on an other subject.....
I am soo hungry this week. I am suppose to have my periods within a few days, might be that but Im craving food...junk...which is not good. I lost soo much weight in the past year but feels like if I continue like that, I will gain everything.
Did your weight changed?
lois95799 Lolita40
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yes before meds i lost weight then during meds i lost more weight.then after been recover i gain so much weight.so was not happy and i stop eating everything that was white and lost the 50pounds i gain.the antid.makes you crave bad carbs.and is like your costantly hungry even though you ate.lol
Lolita40 lois95799
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Thats exactly me!
I lost almost 30 pounds since last october. My apetite took long to come back but since a month I am more hungry. took 5 or 8 pounds back. But I crave carbs etc. I guess I have to stop all white and sugar.
gsquez77 Lolita40
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I went to gym did a class with people.
The issue i had is the intrusive thoughts in class but still finished it.
I am starting to get more irritable too.
Whats wrong with toria?
Thanks!
lois95799 gsquez77
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just hang on gs and when ever you feel weird you know what to do.starts with a k.
gsquez77 lois95799
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It does help Lois but im feeling the withdrawl bad i guess .
i know i change dose lot.
I understand you
What you do for sleep?
Lolita40 gsquez77
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I take klonopin at bedtime. It helps me.
lois95799 gsquez77
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in the beggining stages my doctor prescribe ambiem for sleep.
gsquez77 lois95799
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Hello! Didnt sleep well and feeling a lil low now . Im trying to take nap not working .
Thanks !
lois95799 gsquez77
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benadryl will help you sleep
Grounded lois95799
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Yes, Lois knows what she is talking about benadryl will help with sleep. When I was pregnant the doctor told me to take that to help relax and sleep because I couldn't take clonazepam at that time. It really does help.
lois95799 Grounded
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yes grounded when i was stabilizing and had a reaction to ziplocon .my doctor suggested to take .25xanex n 20millof benadryl together .that would knock me out for 8full hours
Lolita40 lois95799
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Lois, did you feel tired with your treatment ? And do you still?
I know Im in spm right now and I have not eat well the past week, so I feel really tired. Spm are more intense since 2 years. Im 41 but psyachiatrist said I might be in early premenopause.
lois95799 Lolita40
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which treatment?
Lolita40 lois95799
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I mean ad
lois95799 Lolita40
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no i dont feel tired anymore.although i was feeling somewhat tired and found out thru blood test that i needed hrt treatment and ever since treatment from hrt iam 110percent mentally and physically better.in the beginning i was so tired i could not pick my arms up or brush my teeth it was dreadful.
Lolita40 lois95799
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At what age did you need hrt?
what tests did you do.
I still have my periods every months but their is so much of a difference in my symptoms around ovulation and pms since 2 years.
lois95799 Lolita40
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iam 58years old.i had hormonal blood work.and my estrojen was very low.
gsquez77 lois95799
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Thanks lois!
I try melotinin and other natural remedies to no avail.
Another day of loopy and out of it feeling. Went to gym and felt same with intrusive thoughts.
Took me klonopin and stuff.
How you doing?
lois95799 gsquez77
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iam fine .melotonin with celexa no bueno.but if you take benadryl with your benzo .trust me you will sleep.
Grounded lois95799
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Just a quick question for you Lois since you are very familiar with celexa. Do you think that it seems lower doses works better for anxiety, and higher doses for depression? I was just thinking about that lately from everything that I've read. And as I'm sure you've read in some of my posts that I reduced dose and had huge success and mine was initially anxiety and panic attacks.
Just curious.
lois95799 Grounded
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ABSOLUTELY.my phychiatrist has folks on 5milli.for anxiety.i had severe health anxiety /gad.and iam recover on 10milli.
gsquez77 lois95799
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Hello! im on 5 mg .
Grounded how you been?
I was wondering if you all had intrusive thoughts and what type were they?
I know lois did.
What did they consist of ?
Grounded gsquez77
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I've been really well.
Yes, I had intrusive thoughts when going through the start ups on the celexa. And they did cause quite a bit of anxiety, I also had depersonalization etc. I'll be honest the beginning was hell for me. But once we got the dose right everything changed for the better. I feel better then I have in a very long time.
gsquez77 Grounded
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Does celexa work the same the 2 nd or 3rd time around?
I been on this before was just wondering if these drugs dont work as well the next go around or two.
Grounded gsquez77
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This is my first time on Celexa, but I did take zoloft in the past several times and it worked every time for me. So I would assume Celexa would also.
lois95799 gsquez77
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why did you come off first time ??
lois95799
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i for sure thought this was your first experience on the celexa.you are not a rookie after all.lol
gsquez77 lois95799
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Lois i dont know why i did.
huge mistake as now i feel terrible on everyday.
I was pacing in apt and this was last night with no sleep.
I also weeping. I resting now.
I get these irritable and thoughts too.
lois95799 gsquez77
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that is the reason for me not to be curious and come off.no way jose.
gsquez77 lois95799
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Hey Lois can 5 mg help anxiety
gsquez77
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Your the best on here.
toria_07298 gsquez77
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anyone know how to stop getting notifications? i unfollowed but keep getting bloody emails grrrrr x
gsquez77 toria_07298
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hey toria stick around your very good for advice and insight.
Thanks!
Lolita40 gsquez77
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How long did you took celexa the first time? At what dose? When did you come off.
If it was helping at a certain dose, I would suggest take back that dose and be patient until it helps.
lois95799 gsquez77
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absolutely 5milli .will help
lois95799 toria_07298
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the only way to stop notifications is to delete account and make new one.
gsquez77 lois95799
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Hi! i was on 20 mg before and tried 20 mg this time but felt so many effects.
i went down 10 to 5 which i am on now.
lois95799 gsquez77
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yes i know .but you got to have patience.in due time you will start to see a difference.
lois95799
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every one says second time around is hectic.
lois95799
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when ever you feel sketchy .kill the sketchness with your prescribe klonopin!
Lolita40 gsquez77
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When was that gs??
And how long did you take it before?
gsquez77 Lolita40
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Hey that was two years ago.
Im into the second go around.
I dont recall that anymore than that.
gsquez77
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All i know is i am climbing walls daily of late.
I take the klonopin . Man its tough.
lois95799 gsquez77
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i was climbing mountains.hahaha
gsquez77 lois95799
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Hey Lois! Did you get any irritable and anger issues?
Im worried about that now.
I seem to be not functioning much on so far.
What is good dose of benadryl?
gsquez77
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Hey can i go back to 10 now still lois?
toria_07298 gsquez77
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wow stop messing with doses youre making yourself worse
gsquez77 toria_07298
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Hey toria !
I have anxiety and depression.
I am just curious.
I feel terrible daily.
Thanks!
lois95799 gsquez77
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you have to stop messing with doses!you are making your self more sick!
gsquez77 lois95799
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Hey Lois. i know but 5 might not be enough.
I feel like terrible!
gsquez77
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I slept decent but awake now and feel it.
I took me benadryl so sleep ok.
lois95799 gsquez77
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if you take 20milli.of benadryl together at the same time with the klonopin you will sleep better.can you tell me what where your intentions for dropping to five .because fiddling with doses is just going to make you more sick.
gsquez77 lois95799
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I guess i was thinking of getting off it at the time.
I understand that lois.
My mind is very unease daily.
My head feels like its gonna fall off.
I get the mood swings too now.
I know been fiddling too much.
I just not function like much.
Thanks!
lois95799 gsquez77
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you just have to stay at that dose and stop worrying about the what ifs!
gsquez77 lois95799
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as I stated last night if you are within the three week window to updose to the 10mgs then consider it if you are experiencing intolerable withdrawal symptoms. After the three week window to reinstate or updose it is not
They told me that on. facebook forum.
toria_07298 gsquez77
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youre just compounding the problem with all these dose changes, the problem is with that advice is you have never been stable on any dose this time around but you dont seem to want to listen to any of us, did you really think you would drop and feel good gee whizz
lois95799 gsquez77
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i dont buy into that face book anything.this forum is to be trusted with the most experience people on this planet.facebook is worst then webmd!!!!!
lois95799
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social media and folks going thru this anxiety /depression drama iam afraid dont mix.
lois95799
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jumping around the internet looking for quick recipes iam afraid wont work .
Lolita40 gsquez77
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gs, you have to stop going to different forums asking for advises and just stick with one.
It may be really possible to my opinion that 5 mg is too low. Mostly, if you did took 20 mg two years ago for a while and did well on it.
10 mg might be better but thats only my opinion. IF you jump to 10mg, you stay on that dose and just endure the side effects and stabilise.
lois95799
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hope everyone is feeling better.x
gsquez77 lois95799
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Hey lois! how you doing?
I still feeling it um with anxiety and mind going constantly.
So symptoms.
lois95799 gsquez77
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iam feeling well.you are just going thru the emotions hang on gs.at least you are sticking with a plan.
gsquez77 lois95799
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Hey Lois ! Do you think 5 mg can help any in your opinion?
gsquez77
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I apologize for switching doses now im only on 5 mg which low.
lois95799 gsquez77
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my phychiatrist says that she has many patients on five milligrams and they are thriving.its all trial n error.
Lolita40 lois95799
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Feeling soo tired since a week. I am waiting for my periods anytime soon, it litteraly drains me. I have a tiny bit more anxiety today and kind of a soar throat or thightness. ..weird!
Maybe I should take some vitamines for this tiredness.
Any good suggestion?
Potatoghost gsquez77
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Hey everyone x sorry it's been a while having Internet problems but all fixed now.
How is everyone getting on? Hopefully a lot better since last time I was on here.
I've been doing a bit better, but my morning anxiety is still here but not as bad as it has been so that's good.
My appetite is is a lot better, but maybe too much I can't seem to stop eating as I'm hungry constantly lol my mood seems to have improved a fair bit too, but I'm nowhere near as tearful as I was and don't seem to be feeling as down. The anxiety is still high but only in certain situations now rather than all day everyday, and still get anxious about things that I shouldn't and still have little blips throughout the day but it is a lot less severe than it was.
I am in the middle of moving house and even though I'm nervous I'm definitely coping better than I would have a few weeks ago. so hopefully I'll keep improving now and keep getting better, 8-9 weeks this time before I started to feel a little better so thank you everybody who convinced me to stick with it and keep going! Let's just hope I haven't jinxed myself now lol.
Super busy today but would love to hear from everybody and see how they are getting on and will reply as soon as I can
toria_07298 Potatoghost
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glad to hear youre improving, thats great! im off clothes shopping today with my partner 😃 ive lost so much weight!
gsquez77 toria_07298
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Hey im still having issues .
I tried this chamomile pills last night to sleep and felt very sick as my head hurt bad.
Anyone ever try this chamomile.
My body feels relaxed from it but just bad headaches .
Potatoghost toria_07298
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Thank you Toria x it's taking a long time but I'm slowly improving x that's good that you are going out with your partner today. Are you feeling any better since the last time we spoke? I hope I do hope so x
Potatoghost gsquez77
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My advise would be to probably just stick to the benzo and your citalopram, and mixing too many things might be a bit much for your body right now. Have you seen any improvements?
lois95799 gsquez77
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just because it comes from health food store does not render it healthy.i use to take melotonin and had no problem.if i take melotonin now i get severe headaches.alot of health food tablets interact with the celexa.so just be careful.
lois95799 Potatoghost
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so glad you are seen improvements.
Potatoghost lois95799
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thank you Lois hope you've been OK too x I think I spoke too soon lol anxiety has ramped up a bit this afternoon, so not sure why so I'm gonna just take it easy and wait for it too pass xstupid blips! Lol
lois95799 Potatoghost
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blips/side effects will come n go they cannot hurt you.you already know that.regards
gsquez77 Potatoghost
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Hey potato more of the same . My family is worried . Not sleeping well and stuff and getting symptoms galore. They want me to do something which I don't understand .
lois95799 gsquez77
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it wont hurt if you ask your doctor for sleeping tablets.but there is really nothing you can do except keep going .because if you come off you are going to still have discontinuation symptoms.so just bare with it .if you change meds you are still going to have drama.best regards
Lolita40 lois95799
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My blip is mostly being exhausted and pms-sing....lol
My neck is in pain.... I have hernia in it. These past day, I fall asleep easely but wake up tired. Hubby said I move a lot and seem to have light sleep.
It also full moon....lol
Lolita40 gsquez77
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My anxiety never respond to low dosage....its weird but thats just me!
lois95799 Lolita40
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that is part if the hedious blips that awful pain any where it shifts around like crazy.is so bizzare .one day i would have shoulder pain then a second later ankle pain.and so on.and the exhaustion is also part of this drama.but it will subside trust me.
Lolita40 lois95799
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Oh! I wish sooo much!!!!
Lolita40 lois95799
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I wonder if taking my ad around 6pm plus the klonopin at night makes me more tired during the next day?????
lois95799 Lolita40
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thats a big posibility because the antihistamine properties in the celexa and the benzo causes extra tiredness upon waking.
toria_07298 Lolita40
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its the ssri and period i have it
Lolita40 lois95799
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Is that the same with lexapro....cause thats what I take...
Lolita40 toria_07298
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Thats really annoying, right!?
I hate the way my pms are since being 40.
Lolita40 lois95799
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Maybe I should take my lexapro in am? Doing the time switch in a few days????
lois95799 Lolita40
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i also agreed with toria.iam sure most ssri have antihistamine properties.
lois95799 Lolita40
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i switch mine from night to day and made a huge difference in my sleep.because you know these crazy meds react different for every one.so hopefully it will work out the tiredness/drowziness
Lolita40 lois95799
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would you suggest taking it in am?
lois95799 Lolita40
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i would do the switch gradually.not drastically you dont want to disrupt anything.
Lolita40 lois95799
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What is the best way to switch correctly?
Thanks again
lois95799 Lolita40
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my phychiatrist gave me instructions to do it 2to3hours each day.so if you took it at 7pm.take it at 4pm and so on until you reach the morning.
toria_07298 Lolita40
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i tried taking it at night it made me terrible, i take it first thing in the morning x
Lolita40 toria_07298
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what was your side effects from taking it at night???
Lolita40 lois95799
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okay, I will do it this way.
Hope not to have side effects from the time change!?
toria_07298 Lolita40
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insomnia and exhaustion x
lois95799 Lolita40
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from me taking it at night it would jolt me awake no matter what sleeping tablets i took.once the switched made i was able to start the decrease of the sleeping tablets.
Lolita40
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I dont have insomnia but my sleep seems a little more agitate mostly at the en of the night. so, I never wake up with energy or fully rest. And it last all day...grrrr
lois95799 Lolita40
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i think you will benefit from the switch.
gsquez77 lois95799
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Hello! Can i take my dose later today?
i woke up late.
Also is 5 mg even any good for anxiety ?
Thanks!
lois95799 gsquez77
Posted
is better than nothing
lois95799 gsquez77
Posted
and you are sleeping thats a good sign
Potatoghost gsquez77
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It should be fine to take a little later, but it normally says in the leaflet to take as normal unless it's close to taking your next dose, so you don't want to miss it while settling on a dose.
Everybody is different but you really won't know if you you don't wait for it to settleat 5mgx please don't change dose again you just have to wait and see what happens, if it helps somewhat but not enough then think about it but until then try not too x
Lolita40 gsquez77
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how was your day?
Lolita40
Posted
How is everyone doing????
lois95799 Lolita40
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im well lolita.how are you doing?
Lolita40 lois95799
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Well, still waiting for my periods to arrive....lol!
I feel foggy and soar and exhausted !!!
Its been a week that I feel pmsing.....tired of this crap!
My sleep is funky also !
yesterday, I took my lex at 4pm instead of 6:30 pm. Felt blah! So today, I will take it around 2pm...right!?
I dont know how long it will take to see the difference and to adapt on the change of time of my intake.....maybe you can answer that!?
lois95799 Lolita40
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i say i felt a difference after a week.
toria_07298 Lolita40
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how long have your periods been funky?
Lolita40 toria_07298
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I would say that they ate harder on me since 2 years. But mostly since a year.
My symptoms are really anxiety, bad sleep, I have more problems during ovulation (it hurts bad) and more cramps during my periods than I ever had.
I also had a cycle of 19 to 21 days but now it goes from 22 to 29 days... I know for some its normal but its long for what im use for. And it feels like Im in pms for 10 days before.
toria_07298 Lolita40
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i know my periods have only been messed up since withdrawing but most ssri's help periods x
toria_07298 Lolita40
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how long ago was your last medication change?
Lolita40 toria_07298
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I withdraw from zoloft in october.
But the last 2 years, I had several med changed....before I knew of this board.
But my symptoms of pms etc started to change before all that when I was stable will lex. I would say that around 39 years old it started to change.
Im 41. My mom had early symptoms of premenopause but she had everything remove at 42 so I dont really know when she had her real meno.
toria_07298 Lolita40
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have you had hot flushes etc
Lolita40 toria_07298
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I dont know if its hot flashes, but sometimes my heads feels hot and it last a while. Almost feel like fever but its not.
Lolita40
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How old are you Toria? You are in meno????
toria_07298 Lolita40
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im 38 but since withdrawal my periods have gone awful
Lolita40 gsquez77
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How have you been today???
Lolita40
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No news from gsquez???
How is everyone?
Im doing better!
lois95799 Lolita40
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that is lovely lolita.no news from gs
toria_07298 Lolita40
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did you get your period? x
Lolita40 toria_07298
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Yesssss! 2 days ago! It feels better!!!!
I hate those periods ! lol
toria_07298 Lolita40
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im due on grrrrrr so irritable
Potatoghost Lolita40
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Hey Toria x sorry it's been a while been crazy few weeks sorting out moving and all that stressful rubbish lol just wanted to see how you are doing and if you are starting to feel any better after the past few weeks since your dose change x
Potatoghost gsquez77
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Hey was just wandering how u are getting on and have u noticed any positive changes over the past week or so?
lois95799 Potatoghost
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gsquez is on another chat asking about withdrawals from going cold turkey.
Potatoghost lois95799
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Wow I so I assume that gs is not sticking with the 5mg then and is withdrawing. Hopefully she takes someone's advise because she will never recover with all the changes. I'm glad I took you guys advise and stuck with the same does x I'm not great but definitely getting better x so yeah deffo glad I listened lol
lois95799 Potatoghost
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gs is a male.he now takes buspar .
toria_07298 Potatoghost
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hey, had a better day yesterday, today rubbish again, how are you? x
toria_07298 lois95799
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oh dear
lois95799 toria_07298
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yes toria i wish doctors would be more informative to these patients other than reading the leaflet.i know it is mind blowing to feel all this crap we feel without knowing what is really going on because doctors dont tell you nothing .still praying for you.
Potatoghost lois95799
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Oh no sorry to hear today is a struggle for you. X yesterday was better so that's good, so hopefully it'll start improving for you more as the days go by 🙂. Are you feeling any closer to how you felt before the dose change?
I'm OK thank you not feeling too great today like yourself but have been super busy so think that has kept me occupied. X
Potatoghost lois95799
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Oh no another med change. Shame he didn't take all your advise might be on the road to recovery by now x
gsquez77 Potatoghost
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Yeah i know potatao.
now im not well and crying and feeling low.
Sorry for not listening . Now im in a bind .
Cant function normally now.
Your really good potato .
toria_07298 Potatoghost
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not yet lovely but being a woman its that time of the month which doesnt help grrrrrr x
toria_07298 Potatoghost
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hopefully they dont take as long as me to settle thats all im saying! i literally had every symptom going and couldnt take anything to help as it made it worse as my central nervous system was wrecked with all the pills thrown at me 😦
gsquez77 toria_07298
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Yeah im not doing well toria.
I feel everything at me now.
From a to z and crying and very low and desperate for help from these daily.
Potatoghost toria_07298
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Bless you Toria x I'm lucky I don't have that problem lol, I I don't envy you ladies I'm not gonna lie x
Potatoghost gsquez77
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Hey gs can I just ask what made you want to change again? X
toria_07298 gsquez77
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you need to stay on a dose until you settle! as hard as it sounds you have to suffer until you settle! there is no magic pill to take away withdrawal x
toria_07298 Potatoghost
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haha x
Potatoghost toria_07298
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completely agree x
gsquez77 Potatoghost
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Hey i know . I guess they wanna put me in hospital now.
I really dont know potato as i was getting a lot side effects .
I am getting a ton of symptoms now from a to z with withdrawal .
From thoughts to seriously bad headaches to crying so they dont wanna hear it.
I compl
ain to family and say its hard to handle.
lois95799 gsquez77
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go back on the celexa and get rid off the buspar .i dont know anyone that has had succesful results from buspar.the hospital more than likely will do you good.
Potatoghost gsquez77
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I completely agree with lois on this one.
I don't think buspar is gonna do the trick.
you need to go back to Chelsea,pick a dose and stick with it for 4-6 weeks minimum. it will take longer but I think when you start seeing some positives you will realise you should stick to it.
I know things are tough but pick one stick with it and don't change
otherwise you will be stuck feeling like you do for a helluva lot longer . Trust lois and toria they know what they are talking about x x x
Potatoghost
Posted
celexa not Chelsea lol x
toria_07298 Potatoghost
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was going to say who is chelsea ha ha x
toria_07298 gsquez77
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all the hospital will do is give you drugs, the way youre feeling is a lot to do with all the changes x
Potatoghost toria_07298
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exactly toria x spot on. Chelsea is my imaginary friend lol x nah new phone still getting used to the bloody thing!
please listen gs we really want you to get better x
toria_07298 Potatoghost
Posted
know the feeling got my new one last week x
Potatoghost toria_07298
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it sucks doesn't it lol
my son wanted to see if my phone would float in the toilet 🙄
turns out............it doesn't x
toria_07298 Potatoghost
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oh dear, not good! x
gsquez77 toria_07298
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Is going to the hospital a good idea toria?
Im just curious on everyones opinion.
Im barely functioning now and saying things to family that wanna put me in hospital.
Potatoghost gsquez77
Posted
if you are at risk of harming yourself of somebody else then I would consider hospital.
all they are going to do the same as we have suggested.
pick a med make u stick with it and give you benzo and you already have that.
it would probably be more comfortable for you to stay at home because you will be in a comfortable environment and will have everything you need at home x
how do u feel about going hospital?
toria_07298 gsquez77
Posted
if you arent a danger to yourself they will probably just prescribe you something and send you home x
toria_07298 Potatoghost
Posted
all they seem to do in this country is stick you in a room leave you for hours and you cant even move about on your own, it was a horrible experience for me x
Potatoghost toria_07298
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you poor thing x that would have been horrible! my friend said the exact same thing. he tried to end his life at was back at home 48 hours later like it never happened. it's sad how bad mental health is dealt with in the UK.
my partner works in the ambulance service and ends up going to a lady who gets sectioned twice a week because they just send her on her way after she's been sectioned. it's sad x
gsquez77 Potatoghost
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Hey potato!
I dont feel great about it.
I am feeling awful though and not doing much.
I get some thoughts by just laying here.
I also been very inactive and just laying around .
I am getting discontinuation syndrome bad.
I been getting all symptoms from a to z and then some potato.
My family is concerned .
gsquez77
Posted
Well potato i have been saying stuff to family which concerned them and been getting those weird thoughts.
gsquez77
Posted
I am also living alone for most part.
Potatoghost gsquez77
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if it's ok to ask what kinds things have you been saying? if you feel hospital will make you feel better then maybe look into it but it's still gonna be exactly the same as at home.
why did you change to buspar instead of celexa? no matter where you are or what you take you're still gonna have to wait to feel better x
lois95799 gsquez77
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are you in the uk or usa????
gsquez77 lois95799
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USA. Just like i having a very time and stuff .
Potatoghost gsquez77
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sorry gs what do you mean?
Potatoghost lois95799
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what about you lois, UK or USA?
toria_07298 Potatoghost
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its blooming disgraceful x
lois95799 gsquez77
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ok in the usa not so bad for admitting you into a crisis center.and they will take you if you are having issues with harming your self or others other wise they wont.now if you go to private crisis they will take you quickly .but thats real expensive.iam from the usa and i have been to mental crisis center.and it was not so bad.they medicate you and watch you for roughly 5to 7days in a community setting meaning all sexes in same room with the exceptions of the sleeping quarters.but in reality its all the same as far as medication drama.the only difference is you have people around you that can answer questions quickly from doctors and nurses.best regards
gsquez77 lois95799
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Oh ok. Just like weird thoughts and stuff.
I know its discontinuation syndrome.
Potatoghost lois95799
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Trump 2020!!! 😂 I didn't realise you were from the US. I don't know why but thought you were here in the UK. honestly mental health help in the UK is horrendous. I got fired a little while ago because of my mental health........on mental health awareness week. my boss said ull be fine just take your happy pills. wow if it was that easy to be happy lol. I still feel their is still a lot of stigma about it in the UK.
Potatoghost toria_07298
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it is! don't know what it's like where you live but in the south west mental health services are non existent really. x
lois95799 Potatoghost
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in the usa not so bad.in the usa is like this if you need mental help.the goverment will help you .there are many loop holes to go thru but really not an issue specially if you have insurance.the happy pills in the usa are consider the benzos.lol.
Potatoghost lois95799
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I'm moving to the US then. lol x it's really good that their is help available but I have heard it's not very cheap to say the least. everything here is free, hospital stays, gp, mental health teams but that's probably why it's not very good. not enough money to make it better x
lois95799 Potatoghost
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correct.but in the usa if you have health issues the hospitals cannot turn you away.so everyone is welcome wether poor or rich or homeless without a single cent.and the meds are only six dollars for the poor.
toria_07298 Potatoghost
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same in the north west x
Lolita40 gsquez77
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gs, if you really dont feel well and are afraid of all thoses thoughts, you can go to the hospital. There is no shame. Just tell them how bad you feel and that you are not functionning and having bad thoughts. If they keep you, you can ask not to be put on too much meds. Maybe it can reassure you to be around a medical staff that can answer your questions fast.
I had to do this and stayed for 2 weeks while I reinstate my med and settle a bit with the panic attacks. But when i got out, I was a bit better but still had to be patient a lot until I really got better.
Its all waves and windows. 2 steps foward, 1 back, 3, etc.
But after that, you still have to stay with med and settle on a dose. PATIENCE!!
And therapy is a must!
gsquez77 Lolita40
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Hey Lolita! Yeah im going to withdrawals bad from celexa.
I am trouble functioning and crying spells and everything from a to z
I guess im not coping well with it.
My family is worried because i say things about not coping well.
I dont really like hospitals.
Is it ok to go on new meds even with withdrawals.
Potatoghost gsquez77
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like we said before, the more you change the harder things are going to get, you will have withdrawals and start up effects. plus your brain is probably all over the place with all the changes lately. its important to try and stick to one tablet and stick with it. and not change x that would be my advise. if u wanna go to hospital while it settles theirs nothing wrong with that x
Potatoghost
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morning guys hope everyone is alright x
struggling a bit today with my anxiety, woke up feeling pretty anxious and didn't sleep as much as normal so I don't think that's helping
had a tough couple of days then felt a little better for a day now yesterday and today I feel pretty bad.
it's so scary because I feel like I'm going backwards again and that's pretty worrying because it's hard to think positive when you feel a bit better for a bit and then crash
I think aswell I am a bit worried that because I've been on my tablets for over 10 weeks now I should be a lot better than I am x
this sucks
Potatoghost
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I'm trying to stay positive but it's hard to when anxiety is kicking my ass x
toria_07298 gsquez77
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wow! im sorry gs but its like youre determined to make yourself worse constantly changing dose and adding meds, people are trying to help you here, please listen! when i was bad for months and months i had no one to give me advice!!!
toria_07298 Potatoghost
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i know how you feel bless you im like that all the time! can you get out for a walk with headphones in? it really helps x
Potatoghost toria_07298
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thank you toria that's a good idea x I'm gonna go do that now actually and see if it helps x I'm just getting fed up of this now it's crazy how you've dealt with it for so long. I know I'm definitely not as strong as you x
toria_07298 Potatoghost
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its not a competition, we are all strong! get out and enjoy some music, top up that serotonin x
Potatoghost toria_07298
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yeah I'm on my way out now x gonna have a bit of me time x
toria_07298 Potatoghost
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good for you 😃 x
gsquez77 Potatoghost
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Hey potato. I just am like getting bad thoughts even when sleeping.
I keep texting people im not well.
I am in withdrawals.
How you doing potato.
I went out to eat and was emotional and unwell.
I tried the celexa 20 mg for 4 months and maybe didnt give it more time.
I was having side effects.
I been at this since Jan.
Sorry for the rant but just having doom and gloom feelings and scared of my thoughts. My family is afraid of me being alone and just like that.
Potatoghost gsquez77
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being on ccelexa20mg for 4 months how did you feel anxiety and depression wise? what were the side effects you got?
toria_07298 gsquez77
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regardless of what you go on youre going to feel like crap for a while
Lolita40 gsquez77
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gs, we all know your story since we are trying to help you since a little while.
Yes, you are in big discontinuation withdrawal and having lots of symptoms from that.
First of all, I really think you should go back to an antidepressant. If celexa is not the one, then another one but dont start the changing game with meds. The fact that you keep calling and texting your family days and nights , its normal that they are really worry for you.
I would go to hospital even if you dont like it, just to be surround while reintroducing the med.
Or go back to your doctor and go sleep to your family house for a little time si you wont be alone. But we already told you that. Now, you have to take action.
And 3-4 months is not long, we also explained that to you.
So now, whats your plan ? Hospital? Your doctor ? Going to family house? Just do something to help yourself ! you can do this!
gsquez77 toria_07298
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Hey yeah i know toria.
Potato been a tough almost 7 months and still left with these stuff.
I was on lexapro to start but was sleeping a lot on it.
Celexa just lots of ramped up anxiety and low points.
Also really bad muscle issues and fatique and couldnt do much .
Now im off it and getting crying spells and bad headaches and thoughts galore.
Its like i cant shut off my mind.
Also irritable too and feels like
My family is worried for me to stay alone now.
Lolita40 gsquez77
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So now, whats your plan????
lois95799 gsquez77
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are you still taking buspar?
toria_07298 gsquez77
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all normal! it would take me all day to list my symptoms, unfortunately you keep making yourself worse, and not listening to anyone so pointless trying!
Potatoghost gsquez77
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I have to agree with everyone on here tbh x
I'm going to try and say this as nice as possible please don't be offended because that's not what I want.
you keep asking the same questions over again but ignoring the advice and answers you are getting.
sometimes it feels like you completely ignore the answers you get because it's not what you want to hear, so you ask again.
people aren't going to tell u want you want to hear they are just gonna give you the most truthful best advise they can give.
if someone replies you just seem to ignore it and do the complete opposite then ask why you feel the way you do.
we understand that right now you are really struggling and we all want you to recover but you need to decide what you are going to do. make a plan and stick with it otherwise you are completely delaying your recovery and what for?
it's up to you to take action and you won't get anywhere without a clear plan
like I said I really don't want to sound harsh but at some point we have to be a bit cruel to be kind .
sorry I've had to say it but I have to be honest with you.
*take everyone's advice
Lolita40 Potatoghost
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I totally agree with you Potato!
Gs,we really wish you to feel better but you have to listen to advise and have a plan.
lois95799 Lolita40
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completely agreed with everyone .you gotta help your self first .with all the advise on here you would of been on your way to feeling better.medically you have all the tools .you just need to listen and exercise those tools.
Potatoghost Lolita40
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😊
gsquez77 Lolita40
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I guess im not comprehending due to state im in.
I do have pyschistrist monday.
Either go see him or hospital.
Can i still take klonopin?
I took buspar and not that big of a fan .
Its 5 mg two times daily.
I dont have any idea what med to go on next.
Thanks!
toria_07298 Potatoghost
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clappy hands emoji x
lois95799 gsquez77
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yes you can take klonopin.and iam sure you are having start ups from the buspar also.
gsquez77 lois95799
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Is buspar any good for anxiety or depression ?
I take it and feel terrible just tired and not really anxiety relief.
toria_07298 gsquez77
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youve already had these answers! are you sure you even need antidepressants?
Potatoghost gsquez77
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no matter what you decide to try next you have to remember to give it enough time to work and you will get start up effects and withdrawal from buspar but you need an antidepressant really
if citalopram worked for you in the past I'd probably stick with that or an SSRI before trying anything else that's what the klonopin is for, to make things a little easier x
Lolita40 gsquez77
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I hope you still take klonopin. Like we said, it will just help and ease you so yrs take it.
And no pills is going to work like magic in the first few days and weeks
For what pill to take next, you have to work with your doctor. We are not doctors and everyone is different. But since you did took celexa in the past and had succes with it, my guess is that you did not retry it long enough or did not have the right dosage. 4 MONTHS is not long. The symptoms you had were probably still your anxiety and depression.
lois95799 gsquez77
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i aint no doctor but buspar for me after one month was horrible.i had a huge headache for one month.aint nothing like a benzo for quick relieve from anxiety or depression.and since you already taking the benzo with no problem .i say take your benzo silly goose.
Potatoghost Lolita40
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can I ask about your dose and how long uve been on it if that's ok x
how are you getting on with it?
toria_07298 gsquez77
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why dont you re-read the whole thread and see how many times your questions have been answered
Lolita40 Potatoghost
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Of course..... Actually, Im taking lexapro since november. First month, 10mg, then 15mg until may and now 18mg.
I know its a celexa board but since the 2 meds are similar, I came here cause more replies..lol
I start feeling really better in may I would say. So it took around 5-6 months.
Not 100% recover but way better. Hormones phases (ovulation and pms) are the worst . I get really exhausted and more anxious during those time.
And I have neck issues ( little hernias and arthosis) so that gives me headaches, tiredness and dizziness when i have peaks.
Potatoghost Lolita40
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oh no that sounds like a lot to deal with when your anxiety is bad x that's the one thing I don't have to worry about is PMS so I'm definitely lucky lol. ive heard that lexapro is pretty similar.
the reason I ask is I'm having a terrible day anxiety wise so my mood has dropped too and I felt like I was making progress, so my stupid brain is making me worry about all sorts.
that I'm not gonna get better
I'm going to get worse again
tablets should be working by now
all that rubbish.its just knocked me a little bit tbh but everyone has told me 11 weeks is still early days but my brain is telling me it's not.
thank you for replying x
Lolita40 Potatoghost
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11 weeks is not even 3 months...So, yes it is pretty early!
I tried celexa but i prefer lexapro. I had constant headaches with celexa. But at the time, I was only on it for 3 months max. Maybe I should have give it more.
I find that it kind of took longer to stabilise compare to when I started antidepressants 12 years ago.
We have to be patient. Sometimes see if the dose is fine.
But you had good days...So that means you are on the right track. And we tend to "think" and wait to be all symptoms /anxiety free...but nobody in there life is always 100%.
Potatoghost Lolita40
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its funny you mention it took longer for you to stabilise 2nd time around, when I started years ago it worked a lot quicker than this time around increasing.
did you have blips and stuff along the way?
i really hope this is a blip and it passes
thank you for replying x
lois95799 Potatoghost
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the anxiety is lying to you dont believe it .stay strong potato.
Lolita40 Potatoghost
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Oh yes I did have blips!
I still get them sometimes but differently and more manageable
toria_07298 Potatoghost
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potato try not to panic, its taken me 12 months to get used to lower dose and i was getting there until faulty bottle, i have times where i feel nearly normal then others when i think im dying of everything x
Potatoghost toria_07298
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thank you everybody! you are all probably sick of hearing me whine lol x
it's so difficult not to panic as today I've just been getting worse as the day goes on.
that's probably because ive been worrying and feeding my anxiety with worry x
why is this so bloody difficult
I'm gonna go sit in the shower for a bit as i don't have a bath and it's the closest I can get to a relaxing bath
sad I know 😅
then get my very manly koala pjs on and try to watch something relaxing to take my mind off it x
you all have permission to laugh at me for being a wetty
toria_07298 Potatoghost
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tomorrow is a new day lovely, keep trooping, things will improve x
gsquez77 toria_07298
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Hey Potato hope you feel better.
Anyone get intrusive thoughts around people?
I get them around pool.
Potatoghost toria_07298
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thank you toria! ❤
you're right, Tomorrow is a new day.
maybe not tomorrow or the next day but one day we will both be getting off this crazy ride!
Potatoghost gsquez77
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hey gs. I'm up and down like my ex's knickers atm but I'm pushing on.
what do you feel around people? I used to get really irritable and snappy around people even if they were being nice. I wouldn't go as far as to say I would hurt anyone but I would hope a bird would s**t on their head. everyone would annoy me and i used to get so irritated around people. I'm not that bad anymore. my bad days I don't want to talk to anyone but it's not too bad.
gsquez77 Potatoghost
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Hello! how are you?
Just intrusive thoughts about stuff.
I wish they would go away.
Lolita40 gsquez77
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You say you have those thoughts since a while but everytime we ask you to explain, you dont. Can you please tell us more about them?
what kind? About what? Be more specific please if you want us to help.
Lolita40 Potatoghost
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I hope the shower helped a bit and if course, the pj!
Taking care of us while we dont feel well is really important !
gsquez77 Lolita40
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Hello! Its intrusive thoughts .
Like thoughts of doing something .
Lolita40 gsquez77
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I know but like doing what?
Harm yourself or others? Worse???
Grounded gsquez77
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I had sent you a pm that might help.
Potatoghost Lolita40
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morning everyone x
had a disturbed sleep last night full of nightmares so didn't sleep too good.
today seems a lot worse than yesterday I feel like I have taken a giant step backwards which is so disheartening compared to how I have been
I feel like I'm gonna burst into tears over everything and have horrible anxiety
this feels worse than just a blip and I don't know what to do.
its hit me really hard tbh.
I'm trying to be strong but not doing so good atm
I normally take 1×40mg tablet a day but my pharmacy ran out so I've been taking 2 20mg tablets instead.they said this was fine but I don't know if this would have something to do with it at all?
toria_07298 gsquez77
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its normal, i had kill yourself in my head for a long time
toria_07298 Potatoghost
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just remember a bad morning can turn into a good day! im not too sure about the 2 tablets, but read that 1 10mg tablet contains around 8mg of citalopram and fillers, not sure how true that is, but know the liquid is more potent x
Potatoghost toria_07298
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thank you toria x
I feel bad for posting about it.
ive managed to sort out an emergency prescription for 40mg I pick up later so will start taking the 40s again tomorrow.
when i think about it i started feeling poo again when i started to take 2x 20mg.
i didn't really think about it until now so I'm really not sure if that's it.
when I've had blips they have never seemed this bad.i feel
completely back to square one again
and that is so scary x
toria_07298 Potatoghost
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youll be fine, remember you telling me that! keep trooping x
lois95799 gsquez77
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thoughts of doing what?????
lois95799 Potatoghost
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you will be fine.you are just having a celexa wave of yuckyness.
Potatoghost lois95799
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why does this happen! it sucks.
I desperately just want to get better again x
it feels worse than the normal blips I have had tbh x
Potatoghost toria_07298
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I know sweet.
it's so hard to do isn't it.
it just worries me that I'll go back to the beginning again x
toria_07298 Potatoghost
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i know the feeling but it wont happen x
lois95799 Potatoghost
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you wont go back to the beginning .is just your brain n nervous system going thru the motions.it happens dont let that Persuade you.if you have benzo take it.
Potatoghost toria_07298
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thank you toria xxhow long do blips normally last?
Potatoghost lois95799
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thanks lois x I haven't felt like this since the beginning that's what's scaring me.
I've had blips but not like this.
I'm defo gonna take my benzo
I'm gonna try and keep busy and have a good tidy up.
lois95799 Potatoghost
Posted
blips are unpredictable.they come out of the blue.they for me has lasted seconds minutes hours or days even weeks.
lois95799
Posted
the blips eithet affect you mentally or physically.for me they where physical.
Potatoghost lois95799
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how can I tell if it's a blip or it's not working for me? also did the blips ever make you feel like you went right back to the beginning again? this is scary x
Potatoghost lois95799
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definitely mental which bring on the physical.
legs aching
shaking
x feeling sick
crying more x
Lolita40 Potatoghost
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I think its the med. The fact that you take 2x20 instead of 40. Even if its the same amount, it may have a slight difference! I was taking 2x10 and after 1x20 and i felt a difference so I came back to 2x10. Well I take 18.
Take your benzo. Ask your pharmacist if you can change ?
Also, do you take the generic? Cause sometimes they change from different manufacturers?
But dont be worry, its not that you are going backward. Its temporary!
Lolita40 Potatoghost
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If you had few good days then its surely a blip.
At your stage, I had blips all the time. At 3 and 4 months, I still had lots of anxiety and crying.
lois95799 Potatoghost
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how can you telll if its a blip?because you had good days thats how u can tell.and yes it Definitely makes you feel like you’re going backwards.my blips made me feel like right back to the Beginning.Very strange.Thank goodness you have your benzo.
Potatoghost lois95799
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thanks lois x i know we are all different but it's good to know others have been through the same or something similar.
trying to be positive but its so hard x
lois95799 Potatoghost
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when ever i had those blips i double my benzo.
Potatoghost Lolita40
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thank you lolita! trying to stay positive but its so difficult too
I think because when I first went on citalopram it worked a lot quicker so I'm panicking this time as it's taking a lot longer.
how long did you take to feel better when you went back to taking 2×10mg.
how did it make you feel when you did change x
Potatoghost lois95799
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I'm gonna take my benzo for sure today x gotten find the buggers first lol
toria_07298 Potatoghost
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just keep yourself occupied it will pass, i sometimes we think its as bad as at the start because we start feeling better and forget how bad we felt x
toria_07298 Potatoghost
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when i did the accidental updose thats exactly how i felt (back at the start) after a bloody year x
lois95799 Potatoghost
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potato i remember when i first started celexa the pharmicist call me five days before my prescription expired telling me that the manufacturer of the tablet has change.boy did i give myself severe anxiety because of that it was the longest blip brought on by my brain.once i finally change pharmicist for same manufacturer all of my symptoms disapeared .mind you i never took the new tablet .at the end of the day i created my own anxiety over something that never happen.
lois95799
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so please dont think just because you took two 20 s that that is the reason .i take 10milli. and is exactly ten milligrams .no lower no higher.some folks react to the coating ingredients and thats only because they may have allergic reactions to those ingredients.as far as my phychiatrist says there has been no cases in her office of reactions to the actual chemical ingredients of active celexa chemical.and i know different countries fiddle with the inactive ingredients.
gsquez77 lois95799
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Hello! how you?
I woke up last night jolted out of sleep.
I was saying stuff about hospital and went back to sleep.
Just feeling weird and just not myself um i am laying in bed now
I still get those intrusive thoughts and not self caring.
You all been very awesome!
lois95799 gsquez77
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at the end of the day you will get better.you just have to suffer the Consequences.if you can deal with your issues with out meds than so be it.but if you cant than Consequences are to be Expected.
Potatoghost toria_07298
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yeah definitely agree with maybe we think we feel worse after making improvement.
how are you feeling now? x
Potatoghost lois95799
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thank you lois x I didnt really think of it until today and I already felt poo before that.
I didnt question it when I was taking 2x20mg either.
it popped in my head today.
well I've nearly just had a panic attack for no reason and haven't felt like that since the beginning.i can't find my benzo so I took a beta blocker to see if that would calm my heart rate down. it has but only a little.
I really feel like I can't take much of this.
I'm really struggling thanks everyone for your support x
Lolita40 Potatoghost
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it took around 1 or 2 weeks.
I felt more tired, foggy and little more anxious.
toria_07298 Potatoghost
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not great but keeping so busy, walking so much, make sure to keep yourself hydrated x
Potatoghost toria_07298
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yeah I'm definitely keeping hydrated in this heat.
keeping busy is the only thing you can do really isn't it x
I've managed to wash my partner's car
do all my washing
clean the house from top to bottom
do some packing
I felt crap the whole time so just gone for a walk.
Potatoghost Lolita40
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well hopefully I start picking up soon cuz I'm feeling so rubbish x
Lolita40
Posted
I have a question....
I take tylenol (paracétamol ) for headaches or things like that but it seriously doesnt help like advil (ibuprofene ).
Is it okay to take ibuprofene once in a while with lexapro?
lois95799 Lolita40
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as long as you dont or didnt have stomach bleeding issues.once in a while is ok.
Potatoghost lois95799
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the doc rang me earlier and he was really nice
he said he thinks I'm deffo blipping like you guys said. he wants me to see him in a week if I'm not feeling better and he will have a chat with me about if anything else will help with how I'm feeling like a benzo or different beta blockers.
he said I can change too if I want but I told him im gonna stick with the citalopram for now and give it more time
still feeling poo so my partner, so sweet put my new TV up in the bedroom
she bought some scented candles and a new walking dead book and told me to relax bless her
Potatoghost Lolita40
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should be alright gives me a bit of a dodgy stomach sometimes but nothing bad
lois95799 Potatoghost
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that is just lovely.
Grounded Lolita40
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Yeah as long as you don't have bleeding issues with your tummy and don't take it for extended periods you will be fine. I take ibuprofen for headaches and my monthly and have never had an issue.
Potatoghost lois95799
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it is really sweet isn't it bless her
I wish I was in a better mood where I could really appreciate all the little things. i feel guilty, like I should appreciate it a lot more.I took my beta blocker earlier for the first time in weeks and it has helped with the waves of panic
I'm still getting them but they are a lot less severe x my mind is still in overdrive
I haven't been able to eat today too x just feel queasy so I should try really x x
toria_07298 Potatoghost
Posted
you need to eat, i always force myself to eat no matter what x
gsquez77 toria_07298
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Hey how you?
Yeah another day.
Its hot out and i do feel like unwell.
I feel like the flu with intrusive thoughts.
It seems i go out with friends or family.
I went to eat out and stuff.
I felt my mind is all over the place with stuff.
I get that too toria which why my family is worried.
Thanks!
Potatoghost toria_07298
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it wouldn'be too bad if I went one day without eating would it? feeling proper queezy x I've drank a ton of water today x
lois95799 Potatoghost
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if you are feeling nauseas i would take it easy .eat some soup.
Potatoghost lois95799
Posted
well my partner has just ordered a pizza
I know it's not good food but I could probably eat a few slices.
or should I skip the bad food?
dont have any soup left x
lois95799 Potatoghost
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worry about now .eat your pizza.im so jealous .
toria_07298 Potatoghost
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youre lucky im still sensitive to food x
Potatoghost lois95799
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sorry guys!
I'm not gonna lie it tasted amazing
I'm regretting it now though, I feel queezy now lol
I feel bad now, let's pretend i ate something really boring like...... A bean on toast 😉
lois95799 Potatoghost
Posted
you ate thats lovely some folks dont have any appetite .
Potatoghost lois95799
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yeah you're right some people can't x
I'm glad I've eaten something x
gsquez77 Potatoghost
Posted
Hello!! I went to gym and felt it.
My mind was like all over the place.
I got intrusive thoughts.
Anyone ever try turmeric or gaba for these issues?
I tried 1 of each and didnt do much.
Maybe a bit .
lois95799 gsquez77
Posted
i try all that health food propaganda and nothing improve a waste of money!!
Lolita40 gsquez77
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You are not suppose to take things such as gaba while on medication that play with serotonine.
Please stop just taking one thing or another and hope to feel relief instantly.
Seriously, I know you feel terrible but it seems like you dont do what you should to help yourself.
Like go back to your doctor or hospital and i really think you have to go back on celexa or a different antidepressant because you feel miserable.
Go find help ! I think you will benefit from that. There is nothing to be shame about that.
toria_07298 Lolita40
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i agree with the not taking things, but they said they felt better before meds so may need to just ride out withdrawal x
gsquez77 toria_07298
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Hey Toria! Yeah it wasnt this bad but i did have anxiety before.
I keep getting a lot of symptoms and lots intense intrusive thoughts on and now off meds.
Um i know its a wait it out game but my mind is all over the place and im scared daily and functioning is tough.
I get scared and stuff around people and at my apartment lately.
My family and friends are worried and i look for relief so yeah i trying natural products too.
I been at this since jan and tried lexapro and was sleeping all day.
I went on celexa and was awful at first with sedation and muscle pains.
I then lowered dose and migraines so bad and also crying started and then low feelings and was pacing eveI n to the point of pacing outside.
I also constantly text which i never done before.
I think another issue is im terrified of taking meds now.
toria_07298 gsquez77
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all that is what i went through and was getting better until accidental updose x
lois95799 gsquez77
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so no more buspar?
Potatoghost lois95799
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really struggling again today cried a few times already
deffo think I'm back at square one again I really do.
I genuinely feel like I can't cope anymore tbh x
lois95799 Potatoghost
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i would not count a few days if feeling crappy as going backwards.
Potatoghost lois95799
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i dont just feel crappy though
I feel a million times worse than crappy
I was starting to do ok but today is even harder than yesterday and I honestly didn't think it could be
Potatoghost
Posted
Ive made an appointment to see the doc later to see if theirs anything I can take to help this awful anxiety.
hoping that a benzo will give me a bit of a rest from the anxiety and anxious thoughts x
lois95799 Potatoghost
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the benzo would definitely give you relief.
toria_07298 Potatoghost
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how long have you been on 40mg now? x
gsquez77 toria_07298
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Hey Potato! I can relate as i was on 20 mg like that.
I feeling bad pressure in head now and some moping.
Im off buspar as it gave me headaches and weird feelings.
Potatoghost lois95799
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I really hope so xx im just breaking down completely x I've just sat and cried to my partner for an hour and feel like that didnt even give me any relief.
Potatoghost toria_07298
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just over 11 weeks now maybe 12 x
I was starting to feel better but am definitely not doing so well today. x
Potatoghost gsquez77
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hey gs hopefully you feel better soon.
sorry I can't be much help to you right now but. x
Potatoghost
Posted
lois95799 Potatoghost
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perhaps the doc will want you to decrease 40 is quite high .lots of folks have a hard time copping on 40.
Potatoghost lois95799
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that's the thing, I dont have a clue how to tell of 40mg is too high.
as scared as I am I'm willing to try anything as long as I dont have to feel like this.
wouldn't dropping be worse for my anxiety and depression though? not withdrawals but if 40mg isn't working surely going back down again won't help?
toria_07298 Potatoghost
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how long had you felt better for? did you try 30mg? x
lois95799 Potatoghost
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Not necessarily.you may need 35 or 30.remember higher doses does not mean quick relieve.and decreasing might help you.trial n error.sorry to say that.
lois95799
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im praying u get the benzo.because then it will be pezzy wezzy.
Potatoghost toria_07298
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I was on 20mg for 4 years and was doing brilliant until my anxiety came back really bad
I increased to 30then the mg for a few months and it worked same happened again
so back down to 20mg and added mirtazipine and that's when I broke down completely
then no more mirtazipine and up to 40mg 12 weeks ago.
I was slowly getting better very slowly.
had about 2 weeks when I thought they were gonna start working and I was slowly improving then the blip I'm in now.
I feel defeated
Potatoghost lois95799
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yeah im going to see the doc says and I'll let you guys know x doubt I'll get a benzo they hate giving them out.
will I feel crap if my dose is too high?
how do I know if I've left it long enough before I try x
Potatoghost lois95799
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pezzy wezzy? lol
Lolita40 toria_07298
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If he really felt better without , you are right that he should ride it out.
But its also not the first time on celexa. First time he was okay. So Im questionning if he went back on it, that is probably because he still needed it???
lois95799 Potatoghost
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be positive hopefully you will get a short term prescription of the benzo.
toria_07298 Potatoghost
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maybe you were still getting used to 30mg and didnt give that enough time, also remember you probably had mirt withdrawal which ive been through x
Potatoghost toria_07298
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I started feeling better days after I came off the mirt I knew it wasn't agreeing with me.
I should definitely have stuck with the 30 citalopram . I started getting low mood too so I panicked and thought I wanna catch it before it turns into full blown depression so that's when the mirt was introduced. I really really hope this is just a blip
lois95799
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toria has a point with the mirt.withdrawl.i had with drawals from my guinea pig stage of the other antid.for about a half of year.
toria_07298 Potatoghost
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you do know when you stop/reduce a med most feel better for a while until withdrawal hits x
gsquez77 toria_07298
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aHello! Bad morning. I had bad headaches and hit my head.
lois95799 gsquez77
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i also hit my head in the bathroom lol.not cute
Potatoghost toria_07298
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how can I tell what's withdrawal? x
lois95799 Potatoghost
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i have a feeling is the high dose thats making you feel horrible.withdrawals n start up are so similar that is hard to tell apart.the crying n irratability may be signs of delay withdrawals .
Potatoghost lois95799
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well my doc wants me to come off citalopram he checked my resting heart rate and was a bit concerned.he says to give it another week and then see how I feel and if I'm worse then we will swap to sertraline. he has given me some benzo to help aswell. he said he wants to monitor how many I take but hes giving me 5mg
lois95799 Potatoghost
Posted
what was resting heart rate?
lois95799
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high doses cause fast heart rate.
toria_07298 Potatoghost
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anything thats different to your norm x
Potatoghost lois95799
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resting was 178bpm I think. is that high?
Potatoghost toria_07298
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that's the thing I haven't felt normal in 6 months now so maybe it is time to try something from scratch
I dunno though I'm so lost
toria_07298 Potatoghost
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when i was rushed into hospital my heart rate was 210 x
lois95799 Potatoghost
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yes is high .normal is 90 to 100.perhaps the high dose of celexa is causing Tachycardia
gsquez77 toria_07298
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Hello! I meant i hit my head to relieve the pain.
Potato im not well either.
I feel groggy and tired and just not myself.
Im very confused and even tried a klonopin.
Still got that head pressure feeling.
Thanks!
lois95799 gsquez77
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i wont be hitting my head to relieve pain.my tylonel us just fine.lol
gsquez77 lois95799
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Well i might be going to the hospital.
Um it is what it is
Just been feeling very iffy.
lois95799 gsquez77
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thats the best thing i have heard from you yes go to the hospital dont suffer.
gsquez77 lois95799
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What should i expect from this lois?
Im very nervous about this .
What should i tell them about meds?
Potatoghost toria_07298
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210! I'm surprised you didnt combust! even I know that's really high!
Potatoghost lois95799
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when my anxiety wasn't as bad last week it didnt seem very high x
what do you think I should do in your opinion
is it possible that even though citalopram has worked for me before it might not work this time?
Potatoghost gsquez77
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hey gs, maybe that's a good idea.because they will make sure you take what they are giving you and they can monitor how you are. x
lois95799 gsquez77
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tell them everything you wrote to us.is no big deal.they will run some test blood work head n chest xrays ekg.blood pressure.
lois95799 Potatoghost
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i just think is too high.try a lower dose.changing meds is going to send you thru the roof.
toria_07298 Potatoghost
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my heart rate goes up and down like a yo yo in withdrawal, if youre worried about it you can download an app to monitor it x
gsquez77 toria_07298
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I nervous about hospital and what they gonna do for withdrawal.
Potatoghost lois95799
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oh God that's terrifying
I just want to feel like my old self x
Potatoghost toria_07298
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tbh its it was fine before I went up to 40mg so I'm not too worried atm.
that's a good idea though x thank you toria.
that sounds horrible bless you. you madame......are a trooper!
toria_07298 Potatoghost
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i decided i wanted off all meds and im a stubborn cow, trust me to get really extreme withdrawals though grrrrrr x
toria_07298 gsquez77
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not much just keep an eye on you to monitor your situation, not much anyone can do as its a time thing x
lois95799 gsquez77
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in the usa .as far as withdrawals they aint going to do nothing.now if you go to a private practice only for mental health then is a possibility that they will do something for all your drama.but in a regular hospital nada is going to happen.
Potatoghost toria_07298
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you strike me as the kinda person who doesn't take any crap!😅
toria_07298 Potatoghost
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correct haha x
gsquez77 toria_07298
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Hello! I went to hospital and didnt do much but gave me tylenol and put me in a room.
I feel so moody too which sucks.
I dont know what to do anymore.
lois95799 gsquez77
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we told you that unless you have thoughts of harming your self or go to private mental health clinic they aint doing nothing.the best hospital for you is this forum!!!
Lolita40 gsquez77
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They probably gave you tylenol because you talked about your headache.
But did you at least tell they how bad you feel with anxiety, depression, withdrawal, intrusive and negatives thoughts,...???? If you did not explain all that and saying how bad you feel and not being able to function.....its no suprise they didnt do much.
Have they recommend something for you???
Lolita40 gsquez77
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Find a mental health clinic near you and call them.
lois95799 Lolita40
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the problem with finding a private mental facility in usa.is that is very expensive.and they will not take you for free .like i said before if you dont claim self harm.your basically in a loosing battle with the health facilities taking you as an emergency patient.
toria_07298 Lolita40
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in reality all they can do is try drugs and watch you but if it takes a year they wont keep anyone in that long!
toria_07298 lois95799
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same as the uk x
lois95799 toria_07298
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i know lots of folks who claim self harm without having self harm.for medical treatment.its sad.
Lolita40 lois95799
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And we dont know what his intrusive thoughts are about.
lois95799 Lolita40
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Obviously they were not serious other wise he would be in an institution.
gsquez77 lois95799
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Hello! I feel terrible today.
I am at my point .
Taking klonopin is not good daily which i been doing.
Can that make you more depressed?
I need some help.
gsquez77
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Yeah i told them about the issues.
Potatoghost gsquez77
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I feel like you need to be a lot more open about your thoughts and what was said at the hospital.
if you say what your negative thoughts are someone might be able to give you advice and support and it might be good to get it off your chest.
people can't help if they have to guess what's going on.
lois95799 gsquez77
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klonopin does not make you depressed.stop reading into the internet and explain your self with more detail.
lois95799 Potatoghost
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how are you feeling today patato?
Potatoghost gsquez77
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you really need to find anti depressant
stick with it for the full course
if it doesn't work move on to the next
if you are at your point you can't get much lower right? it's not going to fix itself without help of some kind.
it's either feel like you do for longer than necessary or accept that you need to be in a med I'm afraid.
I dont thinking can make you more depressed but your mood might feel a little lower because the anxiety has eased off so you can concentrate more on your mood if that makes sense x
toria_07298 gsquez77
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benzos can make you feel depressed as they wear off!
toria_07298 Potatoghost
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if the thoughts are like mine theyre just racing random fearful thoughts caused by withdrawal so unless the person is going to harm themselves it really doesnt matter what theyre as its part of the process x
lois95799 toria_07298
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for me the benzo never gave me depression while it wore off.so yea everyone is different.
toria_07298 lois95799
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its called a benzo hangover and its a very common side effect so youre lucky x
Lolita40 gsquez77
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I totally agree that you need to go back on an antidepressant.
Yes you have random, negative and intrusive thoughts from withdrawal and not being stable even before that.
But dont wait and suffer for nothing.
Even if the hospital sent you home, if you feel worse, dont hesitate and go back telling them how back you feel. Push and ask to see a psychiatrist and say you fear for yourself.
Potatoghost toria_07298
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I definitely get what you are saying sometimes I just feel like gs might be helped a bit more if he was a little more specific, sometimes I can't really give a helpful answer. or I'm just not sure what I could say IYSWIM x
its definitely part of the process for sure. x
Potatoghost Lolita40
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completely agree, well said x
lois95799 toria_07298
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perhaps because i took a very low dose.thank goodness my xanex never made me feel loopy.i am not a fan of downers .that down feeling is yucky.so yes very lucky with the xanex.but not lucky with mirt/zoplocone/effexor/cymbalta/buspar/saroqeol/amit/
lois95799 Potatoghost
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how are feeling potato?is the benzo helping some what?
Potatoghost lois95799
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hey x I'm trooping on, thanks for asking 😊 x spent most of the day working out what my next move should be. still haven't decided but I'm not gonna rush changing until I've really thought about it.
I took a benzo last night before bed. i thought sod it! 5mg of diazipam and I'm not gonna lie, it was lovely!
still had negative thoughts and stuff but they just seemed to bounce off me and that was nice. lol
lois95799 Potatoghost
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good for you.i know that my phychiatrist when ever someone changes meds or change dosage.she prescribes benzos to make it easier for the patient.
toria_07298 lois95799
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i cant even list the amount of meds ive been unlucky with lol
toria_07298 Potatoghost
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what does IYSWIM mean? sorry not down with the cool kids anymore x
lois95799 toria_07298
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i could just imagine all the crap we have been thru with all these meds.
lois95799 toria_07298
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if you see what i mean=iyswim
Potatoghost lois95799
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I can see why.it isn't a cure by all means but it definitely takes the edge of for a while
Potatoghost toria_07298
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hahaha it means if you see what I mean
sorry toria x I was trying to look cool
did it work?
gsquez77 Potatoghost
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Hello! I feel very low .
Um in not taking celexa but just klonopin 0.5 mg .
Can this make you very low?
Its like im getting mood swings.
Thanks!
gsquez77
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Its like a went for a walk and then came home and boom mood swing.
Potatoghost gsquez77
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you've gotten remember you are probably suffering from withdrawals still.
mood swings are pretty normal when you have anxiety and I'm pretty sure depression can cause that too.
also when your klonopin starts wearing off a bit you are probably feeling more anxious so it wouldn't be unreasonable to think that this could be a factor.
I think maybe you should give yourself a little more time then consider going back on an antidepressant
it might be a good thing to write off everything and start from the bottom
pick a drug, stick with it for the right amount of time and keep your klonopin for when it gets tough
obviously I can only advice you on what I think you should do,but it's your decision ofcourse.x I think you you should at least consider it x
Lolita40 gsquez77
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klonopin will not change your mood you know. It will lower your anxiety and take the edge off a bit. You feel low because its been sooo long that your body suffer from anxiety, withdrawal etc that you also have induce depression. Anxiety/depression often comes together. Your body and brain are exhausted from the med changes. It probably needs a antidepressant to stabilise its serotonine . when you stabilise on a med and dose, then your brain can work on setlling and calming.
Gs, do you see your doctor soon??
Also, did the hospital suggested you a med yesterday???? Or something else?
Please answer fully to my questions....
gsquez77 Lolita40
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Yes i hope to see doc soon.
They didnt offer any new med at hospital.
Just some partial outpatient program.
What to do in the mean time?
gsquez77
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I been taking klonopin 0.5 mg lately a lot to control it.
So klonopin doesnt add to the depression?
Lolita40 gsquez77
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If you are okay to wait, just do so and take klonopin.
If your mental health becomes too overwhelme and you just cant cope with it...And if your thoughts turns around self harming yourself or other, then you go without hesitation to hospital again but you tell them how in despair you are.
Lolita40 gsquez77
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For your klonopin, what I think is that it helps the anxiety and it kind of relax you.
When I went to withdrawal and spiraled into depression because of too much anxiety. Even klonopin would not be enough. The doctor put me on lexapro (cousin of celexa) and gave me bigger dose of klonopin (3× a day). After a time, it was too much klonopin for me. I felt more tired, groggy and so, more down. So, instead of taking 0.5 in afternoon and 0.5 at bedtime. I took 0.25 in afternoon and kept 0.5 for bedtime.
But thats me!
Now, I feel better so i only take 0.25 at bedtime.
But I did have to settle on my antidepressant and it took 6 to 7 months for that!
Lolita40
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You have anxiety and depression. But nothing to really treath that right now. When you take your klonopin, it probably calm your nerves but the depression that is not being address is still there.
Does klonopin gives you depression ? I dont think so. I think you have depression from not being stable, from withdrawal, from too much anxiety and from not being medicated. Klonopin may make you sort of "down" a bit, like more tired or so. Try taking 0.25 at a time instead of 0.50 and see.
Thats my guess.
toria_07298 lois95799
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thanks x
toria_07298 gsquez77
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thats probably withdrawal too x
gsquez77 toria_07298
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What is withdrawal from the celexa?
Oh ok. It is so hard to deal with.
Is it ok to take the klonopin still?
I need something for relief as the days get harder.
Thanks!
toria_07298 gsquez77
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sorry but im not going to tell you to take anything as im not a doctor
lois95799 gsquez77
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take your prescribe medication.your doctor prescribe it for a reason.plain and simple.is not rocket science
gsquez77 lois95799
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Yeah i know. I wonder is ok to take klonopin daily in withdrawal.
Thanks!
lois95799 gsquez77
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absolutely
toria_07298 gsquez77
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if it takes a year to settle then id be worried about benzo withdrawal personally but hey its up to you x
Potatoghost toria_07298
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hey guys just an update x
after talking to a few doctors about my blood pressure and heart rate they are swapping me to sertraline after not having much luck with the citalopram.
it seems 0mg was my dose and since its pooped out 30mg and 40mg aren't for me so sertraline it is.
I've reduced my citalopram down on day 33now and dont feel very well and start the sertaline on Saturday.
fingers crossed it works eh x
Potatoghost
Posted
20mg not 0mg
gsquez77 toria_07298
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Hey Toria! I been getting major mood swings so i need something.
Feels really bad when distress now.
I never took klonopin like this so dont know what to do for relief.
Thanks!
Potatoghost
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day 3 not 33
toria_07298 Potatoghost
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oh bless you potato, i wish you all the luck in the world x
Potatoghost gsquez77
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I'll be completely honest.
you obviously aren't coping without antidepressants so why dont you go back on them?
yeah it will be tough for the first few weeks but isn't that worth it so you dont feel like you do forever?
bite the bullet take your benzo when it gets tough and do something that is going to stop you feeling like you do
you have to pick one and stick with it otherwise you arent helping yourself.
toria_07298 gsquez77
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some people are ok taking it as long as they only take it when needed, but as im not qualified i dont feel right telling people what to take, i know how youre feeling is horrible as im going through it myself and have been for a long time x
Potatoghost toria_07298
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thank you lovely x dont worry I'm not gonna go and cheat on you guys with the sertaline group
I'll be on here aswell lol x
lois95799 Potatoghost
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wow potato.good luck you are a trooper.but me and toria bigger troopers.lol x
lois95799 Potatoghost
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im curious as to what your blood pressure was.not the heart rate.
gsquez77 Potatoghost
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Hey potato! I wanna go on new med but dont know which one.
Is that zoloft i wonder how that is?
Im just taking klonopin more and more and waking up very moody with head sensations.
Toria what do you feel daily and what you do for relief?
These meds are tough to figure out the right one for you.
Thanks!
lois95799 gsquez77
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zoloft is sertraline.they are all ssri.all ssri do the samething with the serotonin.
Potatoghost lois95799
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my blood pressure was 145/95 I think x thank you lois x you guys are definitely bigger troopers than me. I'm bloody terrified!
toria_07298 Potatoghost
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ha ha just hope everything works out for you x
toria_07298 lois95799
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x
toria_07298
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was supposed to be a laughy face grrrrr x
toria_07298 gsquez77
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can you answer me this, do you need a med? i exercise drink plenty of water eat healthy and keep occupied, i have tons of symptoms that come and go! x
Potatoghost gsquez77
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what antidepressants have you tried?
zoloft is pretty much the same as citalopram really it's an SSRI.
as with all antidepressants its hit or miss wether it will work for you.
some people swear by zoloft and say it's the best thing they ever did swapping from citalopram to zoloft where other people say differently.
it's meant to be good for anxiety.
you wont know until you try x
toria_07298 Potatoghost
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im terrified most days but we always survive them x
Potatoghost toria_07298
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thank you x and you x I really hope it works out for you too x and you get completely back to normal x
toria_07298 Potatoghost
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fingers, toes, and eyes crossed for both of us x
lois95799 Potatoghost
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a little high .heart rate real high
Potatoghost lois95799
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is that high then? I dont have a clue. what other ads did you try lois before you settled on citalopram?
Potatoghost toria_07298
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how are you feeling the past few days x sorry I haven't asked in a while have i? it's hard to remember atm the only one feeling poo sometimes x sorry toria x
gsquez77 Potatoghost
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Hey potato ! It a matter of finding the right antidep.
I am scared of them now so dont know what is next?
I wish i could find the right one.
I notice klonopin helps anxiety but might be causing some mood issues as well since taking it more and not on anything else.
lois95799 Potatoghost
Posted
effexor/cymbalta/buspar/amit/mirt/trazadone/saraquol/wellbutrin
Potatoghost gsquez77
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just start on a lower dose of something and work your self up slowly to avoid side effects ? then thats when the klonopin will come in handy.
your docs wont want to give it to you long term because it's really addictive. so when that runs out you need to be prepared.
is it just citalopram you've tried?
the mood thing is probably your depression so when your anxiety isn't as bad you will notice your mood more.
toria_07298 Potatoghost
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hey dont worry about me im used to this rollercoaster x
toria_07298 lois95799
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how long did you give each one of them to work lois? x
Potatoghost lois95799
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holy moly lois that's a lot x did none of them work at all or were the side effects just too bothersome? if thats ok to ask x
Potatoghost toria_07298
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well can we stop it I wanna get off! lol x
do you have support from family members and friends too?
toria_07298 Potatoghost
Posted
my partner is awesome to be honest, he still comes home every lunch, apart from that i prefer my music and walks etc x
lois95799 toria_07298
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not long enough toria.never in my life did i feel awful from my guinea pig stages on these meds.all i know is that as soon as i took celexa it was not that bad as the others.my health anxiety was so severe that i was jumping from med to med like a bunny rabbit.mind you the doctor not the phychiatrist was the one prescribing.that gp never said that it would take longer than two weeks so after two weeks i would be feeling awful and she just switch my meds .n me like a fool listen to her crappy advise .but by then i was suffering from all kinds of withdrawels .until gp said i cant help u any longer you have to see a phychiatrist .best advise she gave me.gp have no clue about these meds.my phychiatrist introduce celexa i had nothing to loose.so yes toria like you i blame the s****y doctors for all my meds drama.x
lois95799 Potatoghost
Posted
the side effects did me in .could not bare them .the gp.did not tell me the full 411 .the side effects where severe.
toria_07298 lois95799
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sh@t isnt it they shouldnt be able to prescribe what they dont understand! its peoples lives theyre messing with!!! makes me so angry it really does x
Potatoghost toria_07298
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awww good that's Brill x it's nice to have someone who helps out x and someone to lean on when things get tough.
my partner is amazing she has picked up all the slack
paying for everything until I get better and back to work.
looking after my son on weekends if I'm struggling
emotionally available all the time x im really lucky x
Potatoghost lois95799
Posted
that's mad isn't it. anyone of them may have helped if your gp told you to stick it out longer! and you wouldn't have had to go through all of that suffering from swapping so much.
lois95799 Potatoghost
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trust me they wont get me again.iam too well inform now on alot of ssri issues .antid.are very famous for mimicking other illness.and iam well inform of that!!!
lois95799
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is strange because the effexor was working but i had severe light sensitivity i could not even turn on a light let alone go outside.
lois95799
Posted
after going thru all that i went thru for over a year now you know why i would never come off my med .my tool i call it.
Potatoghost lois95799
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i think that's called venalfaxine over here in UK.its meant to be pretty good from what I've heard it's a bit stronger.how long were you on it before it started working for you?
lois95799 Potatoghost
Posted
two weeks .i notice right away that my nervous system was calm.but my vision was making my over all trying to heal worse.
toria_07298 Potatoghost
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ditto dont know what id do without him ❤️ x
toria_07298 lois95799
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i have light sensitivity from cit x
lois95799 toria_07298
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toria i had light sensitivity from the cit also but not like the effexor.although it has subsided.x
Potatoghost lois95799
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I still have light sensitivity from the CIT too . only when I look at something really white tough.theirs a
place in the town I'm from with white marble pavement and everytime I walk past i have to prevent myself from screaming aghhhhhh my retina
you ever try sertraline? dont know if it's called something different in the us.
why toria? x
Potatoghost
Posted
was meant to say wbu toria?
lois95799 Potatoghost
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zoloft never try it.
Potatoghost lois95799
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so what was your anxiety like lois? was it a constant thing or come and go?
all mental or physical x
lois95799 Potatoghost
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it was physical.remember i posted how i had severe paresthesia n heart pounding. it was anxiety from health . me thinking there was something wrong with me that doctors couldnt fine.and all it was ?guess??
Potatoghost lois95799
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that's right remember you saying that now x sorry my memory is terrible x so all your negative thoughts were mainly about your health then I take it. that couldn't have been nice
what was it?
lois95799 Potatoghost
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ANXIETY!!!!lol.it came n went for 30 years .until that one day she decided to stay.and it was 24hours a day with no relief.no sleep n i just kept Deteriorating.i thought i was dying .all my Hospital test where all normal.i could not believe that anxiety could create all this Physical traumatic events for me.yuck
toria_07298 lois95799
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i get that with withdrawal its horrible what makes it worse is im in pain alot of the time x
Potatoghost lois95799
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its mad how it just stays with you one day after battling it for so long. just when you think you have it under control. bam! mine isn't health related it's more generalised so it's always their buzzing in the background then it peaks and seems to stay.one day I would be so worried about something then the next day I would be worrying about something else completely and the original thing wouldn't bother me at all, that's when I knew something wasn't quite right.
Potatoghost toria_07298
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my mum suffers from arthritis fibromyalgia and says most painkillers dont really help. so once I convinced her to smoke a joint to see if it would help it really did and she enjoyed her evening too. I used to smoke when I was a teenager and quit when my son was born. it scares me how bad my mental health would be now if I carried on.
lois95799 toria_07298
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isnt that strange how you experince my anxiety drama from withdrawals .and i had that same issue way before any meds.
lois95799 Potatoghost
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yes my health anxiety is the same as you describe .my hypochondriac will control me if it werent for the celexa.
Potatoghost lois95799
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that must have been really difficult to deal with x when you were worried about your health what would help you rationalise those thoughts or was it just a case of constant worry?
toria_07298 Potatoghost
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tbh im good with pain, i had a broken arm for a week before i went to hospital but when the pains are in certain places and your brain isnt quite right and it screams cancer, thats scary x
toria_07298 lois95799
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it is lois and its blooming horrible, i had it after steriods and many trail meds shortly after and when those withdrawals settled it went away, so just waiting for it to buzz off again now once i settle.......... until my next drop that is! might be off citalopram by 2040 lol x
lois95799 Potatoghost
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it was constant worry and two trips to the emergency.
lois95799 toria_07298
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i would considered a weaning process until 2040. hey anything for comfort.i aint knocking it.lol
lois95799 toria_07298
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yes toria when i had the burning scalp i for sure thought i had cancerous Tumors.It was hideous
Grounded Potatoghost
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I've been on sertraline (zoloft) and it is good, its worked very well for me in the past, mind you that mine is more anxiety and panic attack based symptoms, not sure exactly how it works with depression. Some antidepressants seem to work better for one or the other it seems to me. The celexa I believe is good for both but lower dose for anxiety, and higher dose for depression.
Thats just my take on it, but yes the sertraline worked very well.
Grounded lois95799
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Lois, was that before or after you decreased to 10mg? I was just curious because I had that quite often until I reduced dose. Sensitive to light, and sound sometimes.
Grounded gsquez77
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I know everyone is different but I would suggest talking to your Doctor about Zoloft (Sertraline) since the Celexa didn't work well for you. I've taken that in the past for a lot of the same things that you're feeling and it worked very well. And I really dont remember having a lot of side effects from it.
lois95799 Grounded
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that all stem from withdrawals from previous ssri.effexor was the culprit.i know after i decrease all my side effects including the light and sound issues where not as bad.but in the end they all subsided.
Potatoghost Grounded
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thank you grounded I really appreciate your reply x
sometimes I think it's the anxiety that's worse then when I do feel down I'm like yep depression is worse and i can never tell from one day to the next
I'm not sure if the anxiety goes the depression will improve i just dont know x I'm really worried about swapping over, withdrawals and side effects so that is deffo not helping lol x what dose worked for you?
toria_07298 lois95799
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smells are heightened for me on bad days, i can smell a dog inside a house its horrible x
toria_07298 Potatoghost
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potato did you try 30mg? x
lois95799 Potatoghost
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if you havent already swap over .i would try 30 of the celexa.like toria asked.
toria_07298 lois95799
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i just think swapping completely is alot for a person to handle x
Potatoghost toria_07298
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trust me guys I really don't want to swap but it seems like 10mg doesn't 20mg stopped working I've been on 30mg before the mirtazipine and it didnt work and 40mg is too high so I think that's my next step lovelies x
toria_07298 Potatoghost
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how long did you try 30mg for? x
Potatoghost Grounded
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did you switch from one to another or just start another with a gap in between xxxx
Potatoghost toria_07298
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was on 30mg for about 15 weeks I think x started off ok but gradually went downhill so I knew it wasn't working x
toria_07298 Potatoghost
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oh no! got to admit it does sound like poop out, would say if it wasnt gradually worse and you were having good moments inbetween that maybe you were just settling x
lois95799 Potatoghost
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the reason i think you did not well on 30 was because of the other meds you where taking at the same time.?is a Possibility
Grounded Potatoghost
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Zoloft was my first antidepressant ever, and luckily enough it worked first try. So I've not had to switch from one to the other. It's been about 10 years since I took zoloft so when I started the celexa it was a clear start.
Grounded Potatoghost
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As I said mine was always more anxiety, panic based symptoms, some depression but I think that was due to being overwhelmed about feeling so anxious all the time and feeling like it'll never get better.
As far as the celexa, I was at the exact same point you are right now. I had been on 20mg for about 6 months and I still felt awful most days, and I was ready to give up and swap, so I decided on my own terms to start decreasing, I went from 20mg to 15mg, and low and behold I felt better almost right away! And within a week or so I was out doing things I've not done in years! I'm pretty sure that 20mg was just too much, and 10mg wasn't enough when I first started on it, but then again the doctor bumped me up at around 8 weeks so that wasn't really enough time for it to work anyway. I've been on 15mg now for a month and a half and it just continues to get even better. I think its just getting to the exact right dose for you.
If you are thinking of switching still though I would definitely ask about zoloft, it was very good, no complaints at all from someone who has taken it in the past. My father has also been on it for over 25 years and still going strong!
toria_07298 lois95799
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that could be true, was the mirt started at the same time as the cit 30mg? mirt does start working though alot quicker than cit x
lois95799 toria_07298
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according to his post.yes.
toria_07298 lois95799
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my memory is terrible at the moment grrrrr hmmmm its a hard one as you cant be sure what is causing what thats why i refuse to add any other meds x
lois95799 toria_07298
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yes adding phych meds to more phych meds is not good .to try n fix a problem your antidepressent is causing with another antid.is making the situation worse.
toria_07298 lois95799
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think we both learnt that the hard way when we were treated like lab rats x
lois95799 toria_07298
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and i would certainly hope that folks learn from our examples on this forum. because if it happen to you toria it happen to me also .iam it wasnt a Coincidence that doctors treated us like lab rats.
lois95799
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iam sure it wasnt a Coincidence they treated us like lab rats
Potatoghost Grounded
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that's amazing your dad has been on it for 25 years! I wish it was like that for us lol. when you say straight away you felt better was it a week or two or literally straight away? I do think it's a case of switching tbh it seems between 10-30mg doesn't work and 40mg is too high. I'm scared of switching but if it works happy days. x
Potatoghost toria_07298
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I had already tried 30mg in the past before the mirt was introduced. x
toria_07298 lois95799
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lois theyre currently doing the same to my partners aunt its horrible x
toria_07298 Potatoghost
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when and how are you going to do it? whats your plan? i tried sert amongst others x
lois95799 toria_07298
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have you intervene ?
lois95799 Potatoghost
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my mom has been on celexa for over 20 years.same milli.
toria_07298 lois95799
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ive given her lots if advice and as much help as i can x
lois95799 toria_07298
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i pray she listen to you .god bless her.so sad
Potatoghost toria_07298
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I'm on 20mg until Saturday
Sunday I stop the mirt and start sertraline 50mg.
he wanted to do a straight swap but I dint want to do it faster but I didnt want to go too slow because I'm just getting worse and dont want to hit rock bottom then add side effects too.
its terrifying but I had to meet in the middle
I'm gonna try 25mg of sert first because I dont want miss any dose just incase it's a lower dose that will work x
Potatoghost
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not Mirt I mean citalopram
Potatoghost lois95799
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they do say if it works for a close family member it's likely it will work for you too x
Potatoghost toria_07298
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did you not get along with sertraline?
toria_07298 Potatoghost
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no, it also made me clench my jaw, prozac was the worst for me though, i tried that for depression x
toria_07298 Potatoghost
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fingers crossed x
lois95799 Potatoghost
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Allegedly.
Potatoghost toria_07298
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I was on prozac for about a week before I tried citalopram it made me violently sick about 10 times a day it was horrible. is it just anxiety you have now or do you still suffer depression.?
probably too much info but prozac also gave me pilly willy! like where the hell did you go?! I could hit myself in my privates and couldn't feel anything! 😅
doc said he has never heard that before and we both enjoyed a laugh out of it.
toria_07298 Potatoghost
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im not on them for either i manage my depression naturally x
Lolita40 lois95799
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Im starting 8 months with lexapro in 3 days. Today is so-so. I feel a big anxious and I am tired. I just had my ovulation also.
I did 18mg since may but Im not sure if if too much or not. Im always tired. And my cervicales pain drains me a lot.
toria_07298 Lolita40
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does lex help pms? cit is supposed to x
Lolita40 toria_07298
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I didnt really see any difference with antidepressants and my ovulation or pms.
toria_07298 Lolita40
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all i know is my periods are ten times worse since withdrawing x
Lolita40 toria_07298
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When I went into withdrawal last october, everything was also 10 times worse. I might not be 100% still settle now even after 8 months but I will never be able to go through withdrawal. I was such a mess. It was soo scary!
The last 2 years of meds changes, dosages and the withdrawal kind of just worsen my anxiety /depression. Im way better now and it took a while but still have this subtle anxiety (mostly physical) and the tiredness is the worse. i pray so much the have more energy again.
toria_07298 Lolita40
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my energy is getting a little better on and off (on good days) on bad days i force myself to exercise and it works mostly x
Lolita40 toria_07298
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I wish I can find something natural to raise my energy without increasing my anxiety.
Maybe cutting gluten and stuff from my diet since I am often bloated, etc?
Or vitamines?
Is that possible that i am stil "recovering" at 8 months?
lois95799 Lolita40
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iam recover going on three years .but i improve all the time .so yes is posible that You are still recovering
lois95799 Lolita40
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you are on almost the highest dose of lexapro.20lexapro is 40 cit.so i will say that your tiredness may be due to the high dose.
Lolita40 lois95799
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I know..... : (
From 2015 to 2017 I was on 15mg.
That was before my big burnout in january 2017, then my doc changed my meds too much and too soon.
My "now" new doctor put me back on lex back in november. Did 10 for one month and 15. I was always tired and anxiety only started to really decrease in april.
I was tired on all the med I tried.
That is weird.
lois95799 Lolita40
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you know in the Beginning stages of celexa i only could drink decaf coffee for energy.now i drink regular Coffee with no problem.it gives me alot of energy.i know stimulants are a nono for anxiety.but one cup in the morning wont hurt you.
lois95799
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of all the meds i try the only one that gave me energy was effoxor.it was almost Euphoric.too bad i had vision issues with that med other wise i be an effexor lady.lol
Lolita40 lois95799
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Coffee doesnt do anything for energy....
Just dont know what to do about it.
lois95799 Lolita40
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drink a monster energy drink you will have Lots of energy.
Lolita40 lois95799
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I never drank that and dont want to. I think I will get more anxious. I try to drink max one coffee regular and the rest is decaf because it only gives me more anxiety but no energy...lol
lois95799 Lolita40
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so no Caffeine for you.i know when i was on twenty of celexa i was so fatigue.as soon as i drop the side effects drop also.
Lolita40 lois95799
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But what about the anxiety ?
It feels like a low dose doesnt help me. And i still get bouts of anxiety even at my dose.
Dont you have anxiety anymore????
lois95799 Lolita40
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i have natural events anxiety when ever it happens.but is Controllable.Without my Celexa I will have no control of my anxieties.
gsquez77 lois95799
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Hey anyone ever hear of tretellix?
Im still on boards and struggling a bit .
I went to gym and feel intrusive thoughts and still got them at night.
Lolita40 gsquez77
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Its trintellix.
Its another antidepressants that work a bit like ssri and snri.
I have tried it few years ago but only a month.
I dont think its the best rated med for anxiety.
Zoloft,lexapro and celexa are suppose to be good ones for anxiety and depression....But everyone is different.
Befire trying Trintellix, I would give a try to lexapro or zoloft....If you didnt!
Have you call your doctor for an appointment ?
gsquez77 Lolita40
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Hello! I might try zoloft. What you think?
I tried lexapro was sedating for a month.
I just have negative thoughts constantly.
Lolita40 gsquez77
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A month on lexapro is not long enough.
A lot of ssri are sedating. Maybe it would of pass you know.
Zoloft was good for me a few years ago.
But again, you have to stick with whatever med you decide to take. A month is not long. And you have to talk about this with your doctor.
Grounded gsquez77
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I think that is a newer medicine, and I've not heard great things about it. It may work but I trust the old tried and true meds that have been around a long time, they have been around because they work well!
I would try the zoloft if your doctor suggest it, it is good for anxiety, and depression, as well as ocd.
Grounded Potatoghost
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Yes my father has been on it that long, and hes still doing really well!
Honestly, within 5 days of starting to decrease I started feeling better, and after a week I was out doing things, visiting family, and had more energy. Now at 6 weeks I'm more stable and don't even think about how bad I felt.
I took 10mg for 5 weeks, and 15mg for 3 weeks (neither long enough to work) before I got bumped to 20mg. I wish I would have stayed at the 15mg now, I would not have had to go the the 7 months I felt horrible. But its all a guessing game until you get it right.
gsquez77 Grounded
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Hello! Yeah im struggling in withdrawals now so is it ok to try something new?
Im stuck in a loop of anxiety and negative thoughts.
I am terrified of meds side effects now.
How do you start on zoloft?
How much is good for issues generally?
Lolita40 gsquez77
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Yes its okay to start a new med but stick and ride it out with klonopin for the first few weeks.
Ni secrets, you will have side effects...But whats worse ? Feeling like you do now? Or riding some side effects to finaly having some relief ?????
By waiting now, you are just digging your hole a little more into depression and anxiety.
Potatoghost Grounded
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that's so lucky you decided to decrease again. otherwise you might have had to try something else completely x no withdrawals going back down too? so that's really good.
I'm back down to 20mg for a little bit before I swap. feel a bit unbalanced but that's it so far. im really happy for you that you are doing really well, that's good to hear x lets hope you keep improving.
Potatoghost gsquez77
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I agree with lolita and grounded.
might be worth trying zoloft first because it's been tested a lot more and if you need to find out about certain symptoms or side effects a lot more people will be able to give info and advise.
remember 4 weeks is not long enough so please stick it out for as long as you can before changing doses and stuff. x
toria_07298 Lolita40
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exercise and music x
toria_07298 Lolita40
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are you seeing any benefits from the meds? x
toria_07298 gsquez77
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thats withdrawal not your anxiety x
lois95799 Lolita40
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trintellix has been study in the usa for an add on to another antid.is a very expensive med in the usa.and it is not known to treat anxiety in the usa.
Grounded gsquez77
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I would definitely go ahead and start it, it seems to me that you're really in a low right now with lots of anxiety and intrusive thoughts. I think waiting will just prolong that. As far as side effects, remember how you are feeling now that is what you want to treat and feel better, you may get some side effects yes, but I think its more of your own anxiety now about taking them than what you're feeling from side effects. Probably 70% you and 30% from the actual meds. I think that goes for a big percentage of people who have to take them. I think it's their own anxiety more then the side effects of the medication but being on an antidepressant we tend to blame that.
I was stuck also in a terrible loop with severe anxiety, negative thoughts, panic attacks as you are at one point, and I can say that once you hit the right dose, and right med for you it will work! I am proof of that.
I started talking 1/2 of a 50mg tablet (25mg) for the first couple weeks, then increased to the dose of 50mg. Remember zoloft dosing is much different then celexa 25mg is the lowest dose so 50mg wasn't very high but it worked, it worked for my extreme anxiety, and negative thoughts and I personally didn't have much side effects and any that I did have were tolerable. And it seemed to work fairly quickly (around 6-8 weeks) for me. But everyone is different, don't be discouraged if it takes a bit longer. And with any antidepressant for total relief it does take awhile but the little relief you get will get you though it.
But yes, zoloft worked very well for me in the past, and I have taken it 2 or 3 times.
It's good for anxiety, depression, ocd (intrusive thoughts),
My suggestion is, when you start it for the first few weeks to a month, try to take the kolonopin on more of a regular basis, at least take it in the morning to start the day off with minimal anxiety so that you don't automatically get thrown into that loop. If you feel bad by night time I would take another half. Once the zoloft starts to work, take as needed until you feel better enough to stop it. Talk to your doctor about a plan to quit taking it when it's time. I carried it with me for some time after feeling better for the just in case of emergency and just knowing I had it I usually didn't even have to take it, I knew that it was there if needed.
Just know I have been where you are, and it is scary, but it also is treatable and it will get better!
Grounded Potatoghost
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There were no noticeable side effects when I decreased. And yes I was soo ready to just switch to something else because I truly felt that it was not working for me. I guess I did get lucky. I've read on here of similar situations where people decreased to come off and boom! they hit the right dose and felt better.
Keeping fingers crossed that may just happen for you also! And if not don't be afraid to take another, this is the process most go through to find what is right for them so we don't have to suffer with this nasty anxiety and depression.
Lolita40 toria_07298
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Of course I do!
My depression was the first thing to go but anxiety took longer.
This time around, it was way longer anyway....probably because of all what i went through the past 2 years with meds changes and withdrawal.
I am way better of course. I have days went I do a lot more than I did. But its not constant.
I take my med around 4 pm.
I seem to wake up early and the second half of my night sleep, I wake up more.
But im kind of scared to try it in morning and to be more tired. Cause when i take it at the end of the day, it makes me tired......maybe its just a tiredness that would be there even without the med?
Potatoghost Grounded
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thank you grounded you've given me hope that things will start to get better for me when I find the right one or dose for me. I've been on different doses for ages trying to get citalopram to work for me again but it does look like its gonna be a change x I feel a bit wobbly after dropping but not too bad so far x I'm dreading changing but it's got to be done I suppose to try and get back o some level of normality x
toria_07298 Potatoghost
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youll get there potato, we all will x
toria_07298 Lolita40
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were you tired all the time before meds?
lois95799 Lolita40
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i thought the same thing also about the tiredness after i took my cit at night.but it would jolt me awake after three hours of sleep.so i switch to mornings and what a difference that made.
lois95799 toria_07298
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hello toria hope your feeling well today.before meds for me i was always tired with insomnia.Does that make sense?now i have energy with good sleep.
Lolita40 lois95799
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I willl have to try for sure this summer.
Im going on vacations in 3 weeks and just dont want to mess with myself...
Lolita40 toria_07298
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Its kind of hard answering to that because i have been in meds for the past 12 years or so. And before that, I didnt have kids so my lifestyle was different. I mean I was going to bed late, more partying, etc. Guess I had more energy but was also tired cause of my lifestyle.
Lolita40 lois95799
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I fall asleep pretty fast but wake up easely after 4 am.
toria_07298 Lolita40
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i havent slept through the night for over a year grrrrr x
toria_07298 lois95799
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feeling blah lois but thanks for asking and yes my partner is the same when his anxiety is up his sleep is awful bless him x
lois95799 toria_07298
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what a night mare.bless your heart
Lolita40 toria_07298
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OMG! Poor you!
Do you take anything for sleep?
Melatonine, magnesium ?
gsquez77 Lolita40
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Hello! I took a klonopin and feel different now.
Less anxious but like down
I cant sleep much either.
I been telling family i struggle and hard time coping.
Thanks!
toria_07298 Lolita40
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i use epsom salts in the bath that help but ive been on sleeping tablets for years even they dont help x
Potatoghost gsquez77
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a couple of us messaged u earlier on bud give them a read if you can x
Lolita40 gsquez77
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We all understand your struggle but read what we responded to you......
You need to call your doctor, take an antidepressant and ride it out with the help of klonopin also.
calling your doctor is the first thing to do.
gsquez77 Lolita40
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hello! yeah i agree just worn down by this all.
Should i try zoloft?
Lolita im scared to start all over.
Thanks!
lois95799 gsquez77
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be more scare of staying with all thAT ANXIETY WITHOUT MEDS FOREVER.
Potatoghost gsquez77
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I think you should go for it.
you have your benzo for when things get tough. sounds like you are used to taking it now.
just start of on a low dose maybe 25mg to start so side effects arent too bad, just make sure you stick with it when things get tough x
gsquez77 Potatoghost
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Hello! nurse called ask if i get harmful thoughts.
I said sometimes.
What will help me for this?
I thought of them as intrsusive thoughts.
What you all think?
lois95799 gsquez77
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you should check your self to hospital and tell them what your intrusive thoughts are about.
Potatoghost gsquez77
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I agree with lois or atleast speak to your doctor. just dont get confused with thinking harmful thoughts and being scared of thinking harmful thoughts which in turn makes your anxiety worse.
you really really need to go back on a medication. why are you making yourself suffer? eventually someone is going to make you take something at some point or stay how you are feeling atm. I cant see it getting better for you without the help of an antidepressant.
we can only help you so much because it's kinda like you just bypass everything we say please please read our comments a bit more thoroughly.
we really want to help you but you have to try and take on board what we are trying to say to you.
I know it must be really difficult right now and we get that.
the first step is accepting that you need some help from a medication x
Potatoghost gsquez77
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I hope you dont take that comment the wrong way its not meant to offend just want to help x
toria_07298 Potatoghost
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maybe they think its the meds doing this im sure i remember them saying they werent this bad before x
lois95799 toria_07298
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correct toria .anyone would be scare knowing that medications of this type brought them here.in the In the beginning I thought I was getting worst but in reality it was with drawls from meds I was totally clueless.
toria_07298 lois95799
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they just need to decide if to see the withdrawal through and stay off meds or take one and stick to it, either option isnt great buy hey! x
gsquez77 toria_07298
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Hello! My doc called about Zoloft.
Might start 25 mg tomorrow.
I very sensitive to these meds so we shall see.
Did i hear jaw clenching ?
I got that issue on celexa ouch.
Thanks!
Lolita40 gsquez77
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Just dont panic over medication. Tell yourself that the beginning is not going to be easy but you wont die from it.
Think about how bad you are now and tell yourself that you do this to have relief....but for that, you need to endure a little bit of side effects.
Again, give it time and take your klonopin.
Lolita40 gsquez77
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But Im glad you called your doctor and finally got a prescription.
Was it you that suggested zoloft ?
Be confident and start it tomorrow morning. You can do this!
gsquez77 Lolita40
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Hello! Yeah i been getting very irritable and agitated.
Anyone think is from celexa withdrawl?
Potatoghost gsquez77
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hey gs glad you've decided to try something that will help.
irritable and agitated are symptoms of depression anxiety and withdrawal so its gonna be hard to tell what one is causing it.
when you feel like that just breath and try to relax your body, even move around a bit slower. if you tense up or react to it itll feel worse.
hopefully the zoloft is for you and you'll be back to your normal self in a few weeks.
Potatoghost toria_07298
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hey x how is everybody feeling today,?good I hope. got a super busy day so hopefully that will keep my mind from trying to do me in lol.
I'll still keep checking in because I would be lost without you guys atm
toria_07298 gsquez77
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yes!!!!!
toria_07298 Potatoghost
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had a bad week but it wont kill me, how you doing? x
Potatoghost toria_07298
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oh no!! anything in particular or just the usual anxiety nastiness. that's the problem, you think you are doing alright then it just catches you off guard.
you'll definitely get their lovely x you've done brilliant so far so I really do hope its sooner rather than later x
toria_07298 Potatoghost
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thanks potato just pain and anxiety etc will troop on x
Potatoghost toria_07298
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I assume being in pain can make your anxiety worse?
toria_07298 Potatoghost
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yes x
lois95799 toria_07298
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are you still taking ziplocon?
Lolita40 gsquez77
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yes and mostly anxiety /depression!
I hope you will start your zoloft and not wait for nothing.
toria_07298 lois95799
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yes lois been taking it for more than 10 years and never had any problems, want off that once off cit x
Lolita40 toria_07298
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I just took my lexapro at 2pm instead of 5pm. tomorrow I will take it around 11am. Even if I fall asleep pretty fast, Im exhausted from morning to night and after dinner Im not only tired but almost like a zombi. So is the lexapro making me worse at night or is that my tiredness from the day???
Anyway, I will try doing earlier and see.
I also take between 0.25 and 0.175 of klonopin at bedtime. Would love to stop that and see if that contributes to my fatigue. i take it since 2 years and a half. But I took bigger doses until april.
Everyone talks about morning anxiety. Mine is mostly apparent in afternoon and night.
Lolita40
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Sorry for my complains about this tiredness
gsquez77 Lolita40
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Hello! Im worried about side effects as im already feeling something. Hope it doesnt make it worse and add more to it.
I been taking klonopin a lot lately.
I wonder if it is rebound anxiety from no klonopin today.
Thanks!
Lolita40 gsquez77
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Did youtake it?
gsquez77 Lolita40
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not yet. Very nervous to .I need to live again lolita.
Im on 25 mg to start.
I been off celexa two weeks and taking klonopin now .
toria_07298 Lolita40
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what do you take the benzo for? does it still work x
lois95799 Lolita40
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i do believe once you switched to mornings.the lexapro wont interfear with your klonopin.both together at the same time maybe contributing to your tiredness.
toria_07298 Lolita40
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do you feel better or worse after the benzo because alot of new case studied have revealed that they can actually stop working after 4 months or less and cause tolerance withdrawal x
Lolita40 toria_07298
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i was put on it for my anxiety.
I use to take 0.5 at night and as needed during the day.
I lowered it but just take the tiny dose for bedtime. I think i would be able to fall asleep without it for most days.
Lolita40 lois95799
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Lois, I hope you are right.
But I take lexapro around 4 or 5pm and klonopin around 10pm.
I aready feel tired went I take klonopin.
So Im always questionning myself if its lex or klonopin or like Toria said, can it be a bit of withdrawal from klonopin ?
I am also wondering if I go back to 15 instead if 18mg or go to 20. Its weird but around 2 hours after I take my lex, I kind of feel it.
lois95799 Lolita40
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my mother takes her cit.in the morning and her klonopin for sleep at night.and shes been taking the same meds same dosage for over 20 years with no problem.if you have took bigger doses of the klonopin in the past and just lower it in april it could well be withdrawls .according to my phychiatrist anything higher than .25.is not recommended as an add on with cit.toria is right .if you are only taking it for sleep wouldnt ambiem be ok or ziplicon.?
lois95799 Lolita40
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so you never took your lexapro at 10pm???
Lolita40 lois95799
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no I never took it that late.
Why?
How much does your mom takes of each?
Maybe I should try to quit klonopin and take zopiclone as needed....what do you guys think?
lois95799 Lolita40
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this is what i think .perhaps you should take your cit .late with the klonopin.?my mom takes .05 of klonopin and 10MILLI of cit together at night and she sleeps like a baby.i say more than likely the lexapro has a stronger sadating affects more so than celexa.so thats perhaps what is making you tired.
Lolita40 lois95799
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I thought you said I should take it in am.
Cause what I use to do is taking it late afternoon and klonopin around 10 pm.
No i never 10 mg more than 2 months. While those 2 months I was still tired and mostly anxious.
Is it okay to decrease to 15 from 18?
lois95799 Lolita40
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but if you are feeling tired is best to take at night.like 10pm.i would take both together at 10.that way you will sleep thru your tiredness .
Lolita40 lois95799
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alright, I already wake up tired and stay that way...... But i will give a try for couple of days.
Took it at 2pm today so tomorrow i will take it at night. And i will only take 15 instead of 18.
Thank Lois
gsquez77 Lolita40
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Hey! I very nervous about zoloft .
I be starting it and still getting withdrawls.
I feel so tired and worried about side effects.
Lolita40 gsquez77
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well, you have to decide between staying with full symptoms and side effects from anxiety and depression and withdrawal or having some side effects from going back to a med that will finaly have the chance to help you.
Look how miserable you are from no med... It should motivate you a bit to have the courage to take that zoloft and endure a bit with the help of klonopin.
Grounded gsquez77
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The longer you worry about it is just time that is being wasted that you can be taking it and working through any side effects you may have so that you can feel better and not worry about these things anymore. I know I personally got to a point that I figured that no med could make me feel worse then I already did and was willing to tough it out.
Just start the zoloft as I posted before and talk to your doctor about taking the kolonopin on a more regular basis until your body gets used the zoloft.
You will feel better and look back at this time and wonder why you were so afraid.
I've been where you are, and I made it through and you will too!
Potatoghost gsquez77
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I completely agree with grounded and lolita
ofcourse you are going to be nervous starting zoloft because of how you feel and what you're going through
dont forget i am in the exact same positions as you, I'm pooping it tbh
but I know I cant carry on feeling the way I do and need something to help me get through. you can do it gs you just have to be brave and rise it out. it will deffo be worth it in the end x
toria_07298 Lolita40
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i tried taking cit at night and it gave me bad insomnia x
gsquez77 toria_07298
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Hello! I took the zoloft at night and feeling dizzy and crying and stuff at night.
Im still up and unwell and cant sleep.
Thanks!
Potatoghost gsquez77
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gs well done for taking it bud! its the first step. the hard bit is sticking with it .
keep going on.
I would take it in the morning so it's less likely to disturb your sleep.
remember its 50 percent mental aswell
Lolita40 toria_07298
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thats why I wonder when to take it.
And yesterday i took 15 instead if 18.
lois95799 Lolita40
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the thing is either the meds are making you tired or are you naturally tired.from everything i have read.yes the cit for most folks sedates them.but then for other folks like me it gave me insomnia.if i did sleep it was with sleeping tablets.
Lolita40 lois95799
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Iguess its a mix of both the med and natural tiredness like you say. Bur how can I make my body less tired if its natural?
And what do you think of the decrease from 18 to 15?
Will I get side effects from that? Anyway, the 18 mg might not always have been exact cause I was cutting the pill.
toria_07298 Lolita40
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do you sleep well? personally i would take it in the morning as if you stop the benzo you dont want the ssri stopping you sleeping at night x
lois95799 Lolita40
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that is a major concern with cutting tablets with less than halves cuts.trust me one less milligram will cause reactions to your nervous system .i know they are similar in chemical compounds but entirely so different.iam a true believer in lower doses of any meds.will you get side effects? more than likely.but you already asking if you are going to get side effects only means that you are setting your natural anxiety into side effects mode.at times we create our own drama.not intentionally but as a flight or fight response.
Lolita40 toria_07298
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I fall asleep in 2 seconds. Start to wake up around 6 or 7. But still tired when I wake up. And it would be easy for me to take naps. The more the day goes, the more Im tired.
Lolita40 lois95799
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You are soo right!
So i will go foward with 15mg to maintain a more steady dose. If my anxiety rise I will take a bit of klonopin.
As for the morning or night, Im still unsure. yesterday, i took it at 2pm instead of 5pm.
lois95799 Lolita40
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thats exactly what i did if i got more anxiety from my cit.i upped my benzo.aint nothing wrong taking extra for comfort.and you looking for a time of the day to take meds should not be a problem.
toria_07298 Lolita40
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im wondering if your med is similar to mirt in the way its more sedative in lower doses hmmm x
gsquez77 lois95799
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Hello! i took it zoloft and felt so dizzy and stuff.
I still feeling it.
Its very hard to deal with.
They wanted me go to therapy.
lois95799 gsquez77
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good for you.now troop on like we all have done and still doing.go to therapy aint nothing wrong with that.
Lolita40 gsquez77
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Dizziness, anxiety, headaches, digestives issues and more are NORMAL start up side effects.
Plus you have your anxiety and depression that are still there.
Maybe you should take your zoloft earlier today and morning tomorrow to help with your sleep.
Going to therapy is an excellent idea. That way you can deal with issues and develop tools to work on your anxiety.
Just DONT stop zoloft and ride it out with taking klonopin.
We all told you it wont be fix in one day! You have to accept some discomfort while your body readapt to the med.
If its too hard, go to your parents place so you wont be alone... is that possible for you?????
toria_07298 gsquez77
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i feel terrible today, pain nausea anxious racing thoughts migraines etc but im cracking on, just back from a walk now going to mow the lawn x
Lolita40 toria_07298
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sending you positive vibes Toria !
Take it easy today and do something that makes you feel good!
lois95799 toria_07298
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that sounds just like me when i was recovering .i did not let any of the drama stop me from doing my things.good for you toria.
Potatoghost toria_07298
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bless you toria hope tomorrow is better for you x keeping busy is tiring but is the best way to cope x
Potatoghost gsquez77
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therapy will help for sure. remember what you are feeling is normal and its worth putting up with to get rid of the anxiety and depression
dont stop taking them, keep going
Lolita40 Potatoghost
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How are you guys doing ?
gsquez77 Lolita40
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Hello Lolita!
Im on zoloft 25 mg two days.
I feel symptoms and tired and dizzy spells..
I still getting a lot of stuff and having a to z symptoms.
Thanks!
Potatoghost Lolita40
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hey lolita not too bad thanks x was meant to swap to my sertraline today but I'm moving house tomorrow so want to be settled before I do so probably start on Tuesday x how are you doing today?
Potatoghost gsquez77
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hey gs what you are saying is completely normal just side effects from sertraline.
dont let it stop you they will pass.
what are your side effects?
Lolita40 Potatoghost
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Im okay but really tired.
Im trying to change my time intake. was taking it at 5pm, the last 2 days around 1 or 2pm and this morning at 11 am.
2 hours after my intake, I have dizzy spells. Wonder if its my pms or my time change???
Potatoghost Lolita40
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I felt a bit dizzy for a week after changing the time I took mine. I thought it was something else as I couldn't understand why. our bodies are really sensitive to the meds so I would probably guess that's what's causing your dizzy spells x should clear up pretty soon x
Lolita40 Potatoghost
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So thats probably ajustement.
Hope it settle soon because I hate being dizzy.
Actually it was my firsr big symptoms when I had my "breakdown "/ burnout 2 years ago. I had a lot of dizziness for 2 years. now its better but still.
Potatoghost Lolita40
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woah dizzyness for 2 years?! no way would I be able to handle that. glad it's a lot better now.
yeah it deffo sounds like you're just adjusting to taking it at a different time it will definitely go so dont worry x easier said than done. x its mad how these things catch up with you and your brain is like "enough" and just shuts down. x
I would say this is my second break down in about 6 years I think. I honestly didnt think much was happening then boom I just woke up one day and was like oh great my anxiety and depression are back! when did you realise you went feeling well? x
toria_07298 Lolita40
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it because you will have different amounts in your system due to time change x
Lolita40 Potatoghost
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i started feeling better around may. But still not 100% . Sometimes it feels like med dont help like they use too in my life. Since 2 years, I went through a lot of changes and one withdrawal.
Just cant wait to settle for good.
But hormonal changes seems to start playing with me also.
Lolita40 gsquez77
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Its all normal gs!
Just rest and take care of yourself.
Keep taking it and taking your klonopin on regular hours. Dont wait till your at the edge to take it.
Go to your parents place for a little time so you wont be alone and they can take care of you. Would that be possible ????
Lolita40 toria_07298
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Thanks toria!
you are probably right!
Potatoghost Lolita40
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hormonal changes seem to really muddle things up. it seems to happen with a lot of people x it will settle though x
why the withdrawal if you dont mind me asking? how was withdrawal for you?
toria_07298 Potatoghost
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things seem to be getting worse for me at the moment, oh well here we go again x
Potatoghost toria_07298
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oh no toria what's happening lovely?
lois95799 toria_07298
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saying a prayer for you .
Lolita40 Potatoghost
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Well, my last psychiatrist had the brillant idea to quit my med ( zoloft 25mg at the time). She said i seem not to respond to med because of being now to sensitive from them. She made me stop in a laps of 2 weeks....horrible idea. I was like a junky without his drug. I had horrible symptoms and went downhill pretty fast. So i went to hospital after 6 weeks because of bad bad depression and severe anxiety and panic attacks. Stayed there for 2 weeks. They put me back on lexapro because it was a med I took before without problems. I got out when no more panic attacks but continued my recivery home. The psychiatrist at hospital told me it could take time to recover because my last doctor had played too much with meds and doses so my nervous system was really a wreck..
Lolita40 toria_07298
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I know you really want to go off but have you consider that maybe it can help you to take back a low dose.
Just asking!
I feel for you, take care x
toria_07298 Lolita40
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hi, no the only reason i am now struggling is i was nearly stable on 6mg after a year until i got a faulty bottle and basically doubled my dose for 4 days x
toria_07298 lois95799
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thanks lois ❤️ x
toria_07298 Potatoghost
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its the updose downdose kicking my bottom as im so sensitive to dose changes x
Potatoghost Lolita40
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wow that's crazy lolita, why did they think you wasn't responding to zoloft?
it sounds like it was too much for your body and mind to take. that sounds horrific having to go through all of that! so it's just gonna take a lot more time for you to get used to your lexapro then?
Potatoghost toria_07298
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ohhh no! what's your plan from here? its temporary remember that when things get tough x we are all here for you. sorry I havnt got much advise for the up dose but I'm here if you are struggling, but knowing how much of a trooper you are you are probably just getting on with it!
lois95799 Potatoghost
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how are you feeling on the lower dose.i know you put of off til next week.
gsquez77 Potatoghost
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Hello! Im not well either from too many meds and dose changes.
Um im on zoloft 25 mg 3 day and about the same.
I cry and moan now from headaches.
Lolita40 Potatoghost
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i took zoloft few years ago and it helped. Last time, it gave me really bad stomach issues, etc. I wasnt able to deal with low dose and I guess at that time I had enough of med changes and wasnt able to tolerate the side effects.
But zoloft did helped me like I said for 4 years until I had high blood pressure.
Lolita40 gsquez77
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when i say I had a lot of med changes in the past 2 years thats what i had....
was on lexapro from 2015 to 2017 then breakdown
increased of lexapro for 2 weeks
switch to effexor
effexor plus little dose of lex
effexor plus prozac
back to lex
lex plus zolofzoloft
back to lex only
switch to zoloft
change my doctor for a psychiatrist
switch to celexa
back to lex
switch to prozac
witch tozoloft
withdrawal and after new psychiatrist
back to lex and i stick with it
gs, you are not going to see changes now, your only 3 days.
lois95799 Lolita40
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wow sounds like me .trying to find the magic pill is useless for me anyway.if i would of known what i know now .i would of stay on my first med.
Potatoghost lois95799
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I'm still feeling low and anxious but honestly I can feel my heart rate has slowed down and I'm not shaking nowhere near as much so my dose was definitely too high for sure. I've been soooooo busy so I'm not sure if it's because I haven't had time to think about my symptoms x
Potatoghost Lolita40
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wow! that's crazy how many changes they had you make! I'm actually pretty shocked. that must have been so bad. I would have been scared nothing was going to work for me x you feeling a little relieved you are on the right path now? x
Potatoghost Lolita40
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I've got my fingers crossed for the zoloft to work x
toria_07298 Potatoghost
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one foot in front of the other until it settles x
Potatoghost gsquez77
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its all normal just keep going and dont change it will get easier for you, you will be so relieved you did when it kicks in for you
gsquez77 Potatoghost
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Hey potato how you?
I hope so because i get crying spells and frustrated feeling this way.
I think its just not being patient now.
I just w
toria_07298 Potatoghost
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how is everyone? x
Lolita40 toria_07298
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Im okay but I wish I could of sleep a little more cause I tend to wake up early no matter at what time I go to bed.
Im a little soar today cause I went for a little run/walk yesterday but happy I did it.
Still waiting for my periods...lol
what about you ??
toria_07298 Lolita40
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bless you, im used to not sleeping now, ive upped my exercise i normally do 3 walks a day, ive added back in my weights, sit ups and crunches, feel terrible today again today but hopefully settle soon x