Which Prostate Procedures Have Least Incontinence Liklihood?
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Of all possible outcomes arising from a Prostate procedure, incontinence scares me the most. I do not care if I ever have an erection again (66 year old). Despite lifelong intermittent flareups, my condition seems less serious than those here on the forum. Other than continual, but mild epididymitis, hesitancy is my main problem...now being managed well by double-dose Tamsulosin. Someday though I may need one form or another of procedure.
Question is, from you who have experienced a prostate procedure, are there opinions on the procedure least likely to cause permanent incontinence? Thanks.
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MK51151 ed15916
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dennis47445 ed15916
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I am 69 years old. I did a greenlight laser treatment around 15 years ago. It worked for around 2 years, but I still had to take medication to get the flow at a decent level. My next treatment was a turp. It was better, but not that much, as I recall. The prostate, grew back as it did with the greenlight therapy and so I did a second turp. By then, my bladder, must have stretched out so much that after the second turp, I coudn't urinate on my own. So presently, I am doing cic. It's the best thing I've done for my condition. If I could go back to 15 years ago, I would first try the cic. My bladder, feels really empty after doing cic. It's the best feeling over the laser greenlight and turp! If I were you, try cic first. Less damage to your prostate. Good luck!
kenneth1955 ed15916
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I had a UROLIFT 3 years. Never had a problem. All the others have a degree of incontinence and other side effects. If you can get off that pill and get something else. Don't let the problem get to you and cause you other problems Ken
rogcal ed15916
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Following 8 years of hesitancy, retention, infections, nocturia and bladder stone formation, all due to BPH, I opted for the HoLEP procedure.
In and out of hospital on the same day without a catheter and within a week the incontinence (the occasional dribble if that) had cleared up. I did make sure that I carried out frequent pelvic floor exercises in the month prior to the procedure which must have greatly helped in ensuring no post op incontinence.
Two and a half years later, I'm still peeing like a teenager. Erections are still available should I want them but retrograde ejaculations which doesn't worry me in the slightest.
Good luck with whatever route you choose to go down.
emil54651 ed15916
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My flow diminished in my mid 40’ and over the years it became all more complicated. Relieving was taking more and more time, although you get used to it to work around the problem. An acute urinary retention brought me to the urologist. Recommendations went from Turp, Urolift, Rezum, Láser treatment. During my research I consulted with several professionals and one in particularly convinced me and I had the treatment done the end of October 2017. On the way to recovery I have experienced several stages. All in all, I am very happy with the outcome. Relieving works very well, I can sleep 3 to 4 hours without getting up, I have control and sex life is good too. I am glad I did it and really pleased that I am much better off from any angle I look at. Every person is different and responds differently. Have an open conversation with the urologist you trust and feel comfortable with. In my opinion if the patient and the doctor can connect with each other, the outcome of the procedure is more promising. I also would want to be assured that the doctor always goes with the least invasive option to start with.
brian34488 ed15916
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I have herd horror stories on every type of operation accept FLA, I know of one guy who had incontinence before FLA and now its gone and life is great again, I spoke to a leading urologist who said incontinence from TURP usually happens on the second operation so my reasoning is avoid the first operation by having FLA and without the side affects, I used Dr Karamanian in Houston who is very good.
emil54651 brian34488
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FLA and Dr Karamanian is an excellent option. I consulted with him too and was very close to have myself treated with him. For some reason I went with another professional who recommended a GL / PVP treatment done. I was warned of potential side effects. None of them happened to me. I have been lucky! As Dr. K said, any surgery has it's risks.
ed15916 emil54651
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I'm reading good reports of the "Cooled ThermoTherapy" ...apparently a cooled microwave tip with few side effects. There is a doctor 65 miles away who offers the procedure.
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uncklefester brian34488
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Brian, I'm curious, do you know people that had FLA that are not on this site? Of the men that have had it done on this site it seems the success rate is about 70%. Of course some of those men had extenuating circumstances. FLA is still my first choice when I eventually have surgery. For now I've responded well to medication. Fernasteride is tough on erections though.
ED1591, If I did not care about retrograde ejaculation (RE) my first choice procedure would be HOLEP. There is very little chance of needing surgery again, or other problems like incontinence . The only catch is the 80% chance of RE.
emil54651 uncklefester
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There is a lot of concern about RE. Isn't it mainly psychologically for us men? The orgasm, the feeling is still there, with the only difference that semen is not expelled out, but in the bladder. The woman doesn't care, except if both have the desire to have children. I think, we as men care for the forward ejaculation, because it gives us the feeling of being complete, to be a man. But, if we take this pressure off, the optics change.
?Myself, I have experienced dry orgasm when taking tamsulosin for a couple weeks and also due to the obstruction the ejaculations became smaller and smaller over the years. Quite contrary to the concerns and risks with related with GL/PVP treatments, my FE is better than ever in the past 25 years. Was it pure luck? Is it because every person is different? Was the doctor so skilled? Probably a mixture of circumstances. In any case. I am very happy with the result.
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oldbuzzard ed15916
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Its important to note than incontinence is rare with any of these procedures and this forum (or others like it) are not representative of the outcomes of any procedure as the success stories, that far outnumber the problems are almost never posted here. Most come to look for answers after problems, or for info prior to a procedure.
That said, TURP, Holep and Greenlight all can cause incontinence. Rezum, Urolift, PAE and Focal Laser ablation have almost no reported cases of it, even when the procedure failed to bring relief.
It sounds as though you don't need anything right now and may never. If you even start experiencing retention, make sure that you deal with it - either by self cathing or via some kind of procedure. Straining to pee and bladder stretching can cause incontinence or render you unable to void without a catheter (self or indwelling) so if that problem develops, don't delay in doing something about it.
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Had an MRI in Nov. which indicated an area of concern and had a fusion biopsy Dec. 26. All sixteen cores were negative.
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The major side effects really hit me in the last few years of taking it, probably because I when to 2 a day since the one a day stop working.
ktmxc-f ed70868
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That's awesome you are doing so well. What was the Psa before and after? thank you
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ktmxc-f ed70868
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I was around 100cc before Psa 3.7 , Psa now is 1.7 100 days out.
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