Which Prostate Procedures Have Least Incontinence Liklihood?
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Of all possible outcomes arising from a Prostate procedure, incontinence scares me the most. I do not care if I ever have an erection again (66 year old). Despite lifelong intermittent flareups, my condition seems less serious than those here on the forum. Other than continual, but mild epididymitis, hesitancy is my main problem...now being managed well by double-dose Tamsulosin. Someday though I may need one form or another of procedure.
Question is, from you who have experienced a prostate procedure, are there opinions on the procedure least likely to cause permanent incontinence? Thanks.
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jim81578 ed15916
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jim
ktmxc-f jim81578
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Is the Dr. cutting you a decent price for seconds?
thank you
jim81578 ktmxc-f
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Jim
kenneth1955 jim81578
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jim81578 kenneth1955
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tjcal ed15916
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Had Urolift 8 months ago. So far so good No incontinence. A little tiny leakage and urgency early on but that went away. Good intense ejac- no retrograde. No meds. Never was on them. Had bleeding from bladder stones. Stone removal and Urolift for better flow and emptying hopefully will prevent reformation of them. Will find out soon at recall checkup. All the best. Tom
kenneth1955 tjcal
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barrie62598 ed15916
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I am in Australia where it seems we are a decade behind other countries using this site. Others seem to have a magnitude of options while we seem to be stuck on mostly medical responses with a few TURPS thrown in. This site indicates a general move away from these treatments. I was prescribed Alpha1s Flomaxtra(Tamsulosin)/Prazosin 4mg a day from 2006 to 2015 for moderate BPH. Though Urologists had known since 1995 these drugs would need increased dosage beyond 2 years no research had been done by 2013. There was no Pharmaceutical Company billion dollar benfit. So when Alpha1s became less effective I was prescribed Duodart(Dutasteride+Tamsulosin) + Prazosin March 2013 to March 2014. This took my Alpha1 intake to 8mg a day contrary to Duodart’s warnings.
Dutasteride trials indicated a possible increased risk of life threatening PCa. The supplier put this down to a fault in the study design but instead of redoing with proper input the drug was released. They are not required to report PCa as a “side effect2 and Urologists do not mention this risk to BPH sufferers they prescribe the drug to. Since release the Australian supplier of Duodart has reported 6 suspect PCas to our TGA’s Database of Adverse Events. For some reason they are not required to include Gleasons but as database advice is only required or “serious” events we must assume these would be high. Our Health Department says if we want to learn the “side effect” risk we should read the 26 page complicated scientific “Product Information” on the internet. Our Commonwealth Ombudsman says adverse effects detected post-release do not have to be considered a “side effect”,
I was diagnosed with Gleason 3+4 PCa and the gland was removed November 2015. Though pre-surgery advice included the possibility of some incontinence for a couple of months serious incontinence is now over 26 months on with no prospects. They don’t know the full functions of the prostate or the parts you loose with it. The 5ARIs play around with testosterone to unnaturally manipulate prostate cells. I now have other new conditions on top of the incontinence. Kidney stones, Polymyalgia rheumatic, joint and muscle problems ,highly increased inflammation markers and low testosterone. There is also the loss of masculinity and whatever else hormone changes will produce.
5ARIs seem to becoming a much lesser treatment for BPH in other countries but is used here to reduce government costs irrespective of the personal cost to patients. I was 72 when diagnosed and like you most of the possible side effects were of lesser concern than or others on this site. I now know I failed to take proper precautions and took advice I should not have. Do a lot of personal research especially if prescribed 5ARIs.
zdzislaw barrie62598
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So sorry to hear that! Doctors are too enthusiastic about cutting out prostates!!! I have been living with my PCa for 15 years now. No treatment for the first 10 years (my choice, against my doctor's opinion). Hormonal
treatment since. I am 77. Had TURP 2 years ago, weak bladder, incontinence/retention periods now. Low testosterone of course, but no other health proplems. Be well! Z
kenneth1955 barrie62598
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Barrie I am so sorry for what your going through. I am happy we have this site to see what other men in the world are going through. I was at my urologist on Thursday and I have a pelvic floor problem. The first sphincter is to tight. Had a Urolift 3 years ago and my prostate is still open and bladder is fine. I will never let him do any kind of surgery to repair it just to pee a little better. Some doctor's do not have any concerns about any side effect. He just wants to fix the problem to get you to pee better. Nothing else matters. That goes with surgery and medication. We have some men on here that doctor's put them on some pills to make there prostate smaller but never told them what it would do to there sex life. That is why we have to protect our self. We have to take charge a read all the information we can. Don't let anyone practice on you. A doctor can tell you what procedure he thinks may fix the problem but he really does not know until he does it. Being we are all different. Not all procedure will work for us. We should try a less evasive procedure first to see if that is all we need. Never take the first pick. Get another opinion. Because once they start cutting away at the prostate. It's to late. PS. Like I said I was at my Urologist Thursday. We talk about the TURP procedure. He told me that last year he only did 3. He calls it the last resort procedure. Take care and I hope everyone finds some relief for there problems God Bless and have a good rest of the day Ken
zdzislaw ed15916
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Before ANY procedure make the uro check your bladder! This was neglected in my case and it turns out my bladder lost its elasticity.
Also BEFORE any procedure you should do CIC to improve the condition of your bladder. Neglected in my case.
Once you start CIC your urination problems might dramatically improve in a year and you won't need any procedure. This was the case of Jim James here on the forum.
kenneth1955 zdzislaw
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Yes that is a very good idea Zdzislaw. I wish more men would do that. Do not take the first procedure that you are offered without any test. Get a second opinion. Make sure you have the right test. Because a doctor will assume it's the prostate if they can't find another reason. Information is the key to a good out come Take care Ken
dennis47445 zdzislaw
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how's your bladder now? I started cic on August 25, 2016, which makes it around a year and a half. I do it around 3 to 4 times a day. I wish I could report better news, but my condition remains the same. I keep hoping for better results in the future.