Why don't I understand my husband's addiction to alcohol?

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Hi to everyone. I have been working at reducing my valium daily for several months now. I haven't always been successful but I'm still on track.

A week ago i also stopped smoking.

PROBLEM - my husband is dying due to alcoholism and I really don't understand why he has to drink it at all. He's been to three rehabs, walked out of two (pne after only 12 hours) and successfully stayed dry for six months in one. Needless to say he bought six cans on the way home once discharged.

WHY????????

Someone must be able to explain to me why people like alcohol. Peersonally I think it tastes disgusting and causes multiple social problems and violence, so what is the attraction?

All answers welcomed, even those telling me negative things about myself. I'm quite used to hearing them from my husband, anyway....

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  • Posted

    HI Tess. Great replies from others and yes drinking is addictive AND social AND the taste is nice...you obviously do not have the same problems as most people in the UK....drinking too much and too often. Regards Robin
    • Posted

      Well, we are at odds here, because the taste, to me, is vile and always has been. And it gives me heartburn. I stopped what little drinking I was doing years ago because I didn't like the taste.

      Which doesn't explain why my husband is so keen on it, of course, but thank you for replying.

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    Hello Tess,

    Your husband has a medical condition.  Even as far back as 1956, the American Medical Association categorised alcoholism (as it was called then) a disease, characterised by changes in the brain caused by alcohol consumption.

    This is an identification that is often disputed and as a result, it has held treatment back decades.  This is clearly shown by those who support the traditonal 12 step program belief that alcoholism is 'character defect' and that the obsession to drink can only be removed by the belief in full submission and having the obsession lifted by a higher power.

    If your husband had cancer, do you think he would be told that he must believe that a higher power is his way out, his salvation, and that in order to achieve this, he must declare everything negative he has ever done in his life infront of strangers?

    With the advances in science, there have been many advances in both the understanding of addiction, and mental health in general, and possible treatments for it.

    Please don't take this as an anti-traditional treatment rant!  It isn't.  Far from it.  I recognise that this peer support led treatment has it's place and works for some.  They have a daily reprieve from their condition as long as they live their lives by a particular set of steps to remain a person of better moral temperament.  I don't care how anyone gets recovered, as long as they do!

    But the stats are quite astonishing.  We persist in treating sufferings this way and yet, the successful recovery rate is at best estimates around 10%.  We allow people who are continually relapsing and suffering to continue on a path that clearly isn't working for them.  There are many reasons why, but one is perhaps that the rehab/treatment industry is exactly that - an industry that is worth billions and billions every year.

    There ARE other ways to tackle a medical condition and with the correct treatment and support, the chances are much better that someone can recover from this condition/illness/disease - whatever you wish to call it.

    It isn't your husband's fault that he has developed this condition - there is evidence to indicate that it is genetic - but it IS his responsibility to find a way to reach recovery.

    It is not necessary, in my opinion, that the only people who can help addicts recover are ex-addicts themselves.  It is useful to have empathy but, again using the cancer diagnosis as a comparison, do we insist that we are only treat by a medical physician that has had cancer themselves?

    If you are of interest, this is the clinically proven medical treatment I used to recover.  Please view it with an open mind, especially because it involves a period of continued drinking on a safe and non-addictive medication, which results in the extinction of cravings and 'resets' the brain back to it's pre-addicted state over a period of months.  From a drinkers perspective, they may well be more open to this because of this very fact of continued, but controlled drinking.  Despite what they may say, most drinkers are scared of not drinking and what to do in their lives.  This is a way that  the biological part of addiction is being medically treated and that aids a drinker to be in a better state of mental health to deal with other issues and learn new ways of coping.  The immediate stopping of drinking and staying stopped is virtually impossible for a large proportion of drinkers.

    https://patient.info/health/sinclair-method-for-alcohol-use-disorder

    As an addition to this, I very much feel that those caught in the ripples of someone's drinking do not receive enough help either.  I have experienced both sides of the coin - my own recovery and the frustration and anger of being unable to fully influence a loved one's drinking.  I wish you both well and hope that with this new information, you can both move forwards.

    • Posted

      Thank you so much.

      One big problem is that he refuses to go to any doctors, clinics, hospitals, treatment centres etc. He has totally given up. He even accuses me of being self-righteous because I have taken the first steps to deal with my own addictions.

      I have given up. Totally. Not for myself, but for him. There is no going back now. And although the reasoned part of me tells me that this is an illness, the angry part of me says STOP BUYING CANS OF BEER AND BOTTLES OF WHISKY.

       

    • Posted

      I am not surprised he has given up for the time being. That can change though, when he is ready.  Do mention in passing about this method where you can continue drinking for the time being and see if his ears prick up in response - it will be something that he has never heard before, and as I say (from his perspective) you are telling him what he thinks he wants to hear from you (that he can still drink).  It is certainly more likely to get his attention then repeatig the same things again and again and getting nowhere.

      It's worth a go and you have nothing to lose at this point.

      He is angry, you are angry.  And I think you have absolutely every right to be angry, for sure!

      Something needs to change though because this is loggerheads for you.  If he is not willing to take action and keep trying then he has to accept the results of that, whatever they may be.

    • Posted

      Meant to say that if he does show an interest after you have told him, I am more than happy to chat to him on the phone if you are in the UK, or skype if you are abroad.

      It isn't your 'job' to give him more information after that, and honestly it might be better if you stepped aside about it and let someone who has been through the method to take over.  That seperation will help reduce accusations and anger between you.

    • Posted

      And so do I.

      He isn't interested and I bet our GP hasn't heard of this method, and \i can only get him to the GP when he's very drunk so he won't understand, anyway.

      By the way, did I mention dementia? Because he has that, too, now, as well as end-stage liver disease.

      I think we've missed an important boat............but thank you so much for replying. You have been very kind and supportive. I really appreciate that.

       

    • Posted

      If you really believe there is no hope for him, then it's time to take care for yourself and your children.

      Your anger isn't solely based at him, I would expect.  It'll also be anger at what could have been, what might've been, and may well include anger at yourself because no matter what you did, you couldn't stop him drinking.

      Seek out help for yourself - if he will not help himself, then your priority is your own health and that of your children. (sorry I don't know how old they are, but age is not relevant in this case anyway).

      Your children and you need care and attention now.  You've clearly done all you can for him for now.

    • Posted

      Has the doctor said what the outcome would be if he stopped drinking now? Perhaps there's a possibility of getting him into detox again and starting something like Campral during the detox. Campral can stop the cravings and the relapse.
    • Posted

      Alcoholic disease gives you dementia and brain disease. It is well documented.

      Korsakoff syndrome is a chronic memory disorder caused by severe deficiency of thiamine (vitamin B-1). Korsakoff syndrome is most commonly caused by alcohol misuse

      Wernicke's encephalopathy (or Wernicke's disease) refers to the presence of neurological symptoms caused by biochemical lesions of the central nervous system after exhaustion of B-vitamin reserves, in particular thiamine (vitamin B1). Wernicke's encephalopathy has classically been thought of as a disease solely of alcoholics

      WKS is usually found in chronic alcoholics. Wernicke–Korsakoff syndrome results from thiamine deficiency. It is generally agreed that Wernicke's encephalopathy results from severe acute deficiency of thiamine (vitamin B1), whilst Korsakoff's psychosis is a chronic neurologic sequela of Wernicke's encephalopathy

       

    • Posted

      Oh well I'll be ok then,I've had my course if B vit injections so I'm safe smile
    • Posted

      Thanks - I'm a Dementia Specialist Nurse and I noticed it starting in my husband about a year ago.

      My GP wasn't terribly interested.

    • Posted

      "My GP wasn't terribly interested."

      Wow. I guess I just dont' understand that kind of attitude. That's pretty cold.

    • Posted

      I think it's because GPs know perfectly well that they can't cure dementia so they steer clear of it. Oh, they'll take bloods etc but real help isn't forthcoming at all.

      I have seen this scenario all over the country in my work. Pathetic, isn't it?

    • Posted

      You hear about it pretty much everywhere around the globe. Pathetic and unnecesary. 

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