2 years of throat clearing, thick mucus and post nasal drip sensation (allergy/reflux/nerve?)
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Hello,
Suffering for 2 years with sensation of thick mucus stuck at the back of the nose, which I'm often able to hock up out of my mouth (clear but very "snotty" and like thick glue when it's in a tissue).
Sometimes it gets in my throat and I often clear my throat all day long too. I guess this is post-nasal drip, but not watery or thin (like you apparently get from an allergy), it's very thick and feels awful like a lump or glob that won't move, until I hock it up, but within minutes it's back again...
Tried all reflux and allergy medications (double-dose PPIs, steroid sprays, allergy RAST tests, antihistamines, singulair, antihistamine sprays, nasal irrigation, gastrocopy, multiple nasal/throat endoscopes, sinus CT scans), and they can't identify the problem... All of my symptoms disappear completely, when I eat or lay down with my head to either side (which I find very odd! Equally, if I take pseudoephridrine (oral decongestant), my symptoms go too (but I know that's not a long term option).
Anyone ever dealt with anything similar or know what to suggest next?I've been thinking of self-treating with amitriptyline (10mg at night) and gabapentin (100mg 3x per day), to see if this is a hypersensitivity/nerve issue. I have absolutely no other symptoms and can't live much longer like this, it's completely ruined my life and things are just getting worse
Thanks for any help at all.
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nita28209 derekjp
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My cough has changed over the last more than year and a half. It used to be dry, now it's wet with a crackle sound to it when I cough. Anyone else have this?
Lurcecita derekjp
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http://www.scielo.br/pdf/bjorl/v84n4/1808-8694-bjorl-84-04-0401.pdf
barry12128 Lurcecita
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john26164 derekjp
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nita28209 john26164
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john26164 derekjp
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bensy derekjp
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A pharmacist in Taiwan recommended me BISOUCAN Nasal Spray. Leaflets shows "Each ml contains 0,5mg Naphazoline HCL; 2mg Diphenhydramine HCL and 10mg Procaine HCL. I bought one but haven't tried it yet. I wonder if someone tried it or similar to this aleady
tom78394 bensy
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bensy tom78394
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lucy81750 derekjp
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Lots of talk about Meds... not so much about cures... Let's get to the root cause, people, and not just mask symptoms with pharmaceuticals! Give up Gluten, alongside Yeast and Starch (so all processed food) for ONE MONTH and watch your symptoms disappear! Then when you start eating them again, after the experiment, watch the mucus come flooding back! I urge you to try it; eat protein, vegetables, fruit and fat for one month. Drink water, tea and herbal teas... and see what happens! No mucus!
dave16290 lucy81750
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lucy81750 dave16290
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It has been for me, Dave. I've been able to reintroduce starch (with no reactions) but still not able to eat Gluten and Yeast foods yet without symptoms returning. I'm guessing the yeast is cross reacting with the gluten sensitivity. (To my immune system it all looks the same).
It's work - to avoid the problem foods, and heal the gut so that you can reintroduce them - I guess a lot of people don't want to try... But for me the symptoms got so bad I had no choice. The upside is, not only does the chronic throat clearing and blocked sinus issue go away, I also sleep better (I can breathe!) and feel better... when I avoid them.
Healing your gut is the only way to deal with this if you don't want a cascade of health issues further down the track. It is, in my opinion, a slippery slope from food intolerance to leaky gut, to autoimmune diseases... and worse... This thing we have, is not a BAD THING our bodies are doing to us, but a reaction to the BAD FOODS were continually eating. Our bodies have not gone wrong, rather they're telling us something IS wrong.
dave16290 lucy81750
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I flare up of certain fruits, especially if I drink certain fruit juices like apple or orange juices.
dave16290
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Too add I'd also say the dietary approach is very similar to a Ketogenic diet, apart from the fact that your consuming fruits.
dougsmam dave16290
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lucy81750 dave16290
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Dave, I personally seem to be fine with sugar, honey, and fruits, but I do avoid everything processed as much as I can, so I don't eat a lot of the sweet stuff.
My issue, for the longest time was starch... Rice. Potatoes. Grains. Thickeners... Chestnuts... Tapioca... it was ridiculous. If I ate the tiniest bit, mucus... and not breathing during my sleep... for days after! My symptoms would normally start 24 hr's after earting.
I did a long round of herbal antimicrobials and I'm now able to eat starch without producing mucus!
So... based on that, I personally think what's going on, is Small Intestinal Bacterial Overgrowth (SIBO).
If it's sugar that is an issue for you, I would look instead at SIFO (The F standing for Fungus, or, Candida) which is exactly the same... an opportunistic overgrowth of the Small Intestine, but instead of bacteria, it would be a yeast/fungal stain.
The sugar would be feeding it. So, when you eat it, it feeds the overgrowth, which stimulates the immune system, and the body produces mucus to try and clear it out, but can't... So we're sort of hooked in an endless cycle.
There's many websites that advice how to clear it. I personally haven't managed to entirely yet, but I've come to believe I have an underlying Gluten Intolerance (perhaps Celiac) so everytime I was eating wheat I was damaging my gut, slowing my system down (constipation) and allowing the bacteria to take over in the slowed transit system that the wheat was creating, and then I would have symptoms again.
Definitely for me, this is a food/gut issue. So, I've just gone gluten free. I'm hoping this might be the missing piece of the puzzle, and so far it seems to be working. No Gluten or Yeast, and I'm symptom free.
This is my experience. I hope it helps you in some way. If anything is the same for you, please do let me know. I think we're going to get much further along in this by comparing experiences, experimenting and figuring it out ourselves, than we are by going to doctors and being given meds. Good luck with it.
lucy81750 dave16290
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I'm currently reading 'Keto for Cancer', so I know that the Keto diet is beneficial to many people, but I over ate protein on it, big time. I also came to see fat as not being a particularly nutritious food... so if you compare the nutritional composition of fat vs. other food you're eating an almost 80% empty diet. The other problem for me became that it's not necessarily favourable to the microbiome, which I think is essential for health... Our gut bacteria seem to like carbohydrates and starches... plants and fibers... So I dont know... I if I toss up the pros and cons... I'm not sure.
As far as being fat adapted goes, it definitely helped me. I'm no longer hyperglycemic and hangry... I no longer have sugar crashes and afternoon naps... keto did help enormously with that. I also lost 5kg in the first month, and felt great! But I was eating avo and bacon, and cream and butter... So I don't know if I was sustainably healthy! 🤣
It's difficult to know, for me personally, whether it's a healthy option or not. So I eat more ancestral/primal... with black and red rice and sweet potato, and I like to get the health benefits from fasting now, which I do regularly.
A few days of water, gives me what eating a full time Keto diet would do.
But I think, horses for courses, whatever works for you is great!
My number one course of action for anyone with this mucus thing going on though, is cut out the gluten! However you get there, whatever diet works for you, exclude the gluten. If that doesn't work on it's own, look deeper... yeast, starch, sugar... investigate and eliminate...
I accidentally ate some Teriyaki sauce yesterday (made from wheat) and my mucus is back. 😞
nita28209 lucy81750
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lucy81750 nita28209
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That's simply not true. Protein from meat, poultry and fish is the least inflammatory food, alongside vegetables. Most people with food intolerance can tolerate meat, fish and vegetables better than anything else.
But regardless - vegan or Paleo -
which ever perspective you choose, the issue - mucus - is what we need to combat... and I think it's due to gluten.
Vegans tend to eat a lot more gluten in their substitute/fake foods. But if you can remove the gluten and all the processed foods, AND all the animal foods and still eat tasty meals that contain all the nutrition your body needs, do it!
lucy81750 nita28209
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“Low-carb diets could shorten life,” was that ONE study's findings...
... and it was based on a very limited observational study that didn't focus on anything other than asking participants to remember what they ate.
"Could". Uh huh.
And then you compare that to the work of Miriam Kalamian who's saving lives using it...
I'd say the findings are all but useless, unless you're a vegan splatter-bombing forums like these with silly silly comments, or a CEO of a carb producing food factory who loves headlines like this appearing in the media, so that purple eat more of your processed laden carbs.
Do you think a donut has equal weight to a vegetable?
nita28209 lucy81750
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lucy81750 nita28209
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Because Nita, I've spent all this time and effort trying to figure out and find a solution to the mucus. Over two years of experimenting with diets and elimination, to find out the cause...
If it was meat and poultry and fish, I'd say it was meat and poultry and fish.
I'm not just going to say because "my friend" said so that it's this or that.
That's ridiculous! Does she even have the mucus thing going on? Do you?
If you did, I'd think you'd be willing to try anything to get rid of it!
My post is based on research and experimentation... And, I go to all the efforts to tell people on here, what I've found out, and the first response (yours) completely opposes what I've said!
I get that people don't want to give up their favourite carbs... They're addictive. And they give us pleasure because they work on the same receptors in the brain as crack... And animals and their farming practises can be scapegoats for everything because no one wants to see them killed... But at least give what I've said a go! Instead of just out of the door refuting what I personally have found to be the only cure!
I'm only trying to help. I'm not preaching a diet. But at least what I'm saying is based on personal experience and not just hearsay from your friend. What have you actually contributed towards solving this chronic miserable condition?
barry12128 lucy81750
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nita28209 barry12128
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I want to reiterate that this mucus started after I'd had this cold for four whole months, the same cold. It was like a super cold. I caught it from my grandson who gave it to his mom, too. They all got over the cough after 4 months, but I did not. At first, the cough was dry. Then after 2 years, the cough became wet and I kept swallowing the mucus I coughed up. The mucus is thick and pure white.
Now, every now and then it all goes away for a week or ten days. No symptoms whatsoever. But then it comes back. So what does that even tell us?
Another thing that has happened since this started 3 years ago, occasionally when I eat, my nose runs, and that never ever happened before this started. In fact, my whole life, I have rarely had to blow my nose.
raja43467 nita28209
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same here .. my problem also started. from a month long cold 2 years ago.. in 1st year cough was more than the post nasal drip but from 2nd year PND is more than cough. cough has gone down little .. my pnd is all year long .. little less in summer but extreme in winter ..