An Experiment with Borax
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So, I've been in Vietnam now for just over a month. Haven't had any itching, but the white plaque has expanded and looked like a bit more fusing had occured. Panic set in and of course I was trying not to. However, now that we're here, my husband has been able to start doing more research to help me. And he came across some stuff about borax. So we started an experiment 6 days ago. Not using any steroids, but instead each morning and night he's applying to one side a saturated borax solution and the other side a saturated baking soda solution (as we'd read that some people found baking soda helpful). We've been taking photos in order to compare as we progress. As mentioned, we are on day 6 and there is honestly some change! My clitoris which was quite white has returned to pink. And while the whole area still has some white, the pink is really starting to move in more. The biggest changes are on the side with the borax, with some change on the side with the baking soda (but since some of the borax can get rubbed off on that baking soda side we can't say for certain that the baking soda is having a major effect). We are feeling optimistic about this and I will keep everyone posted. During the day I do continue to add vitamin E oil to keep moisturized.
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Nat.asha alistar
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I made an account just to message you and show my support in this thread. Whilst you must be inundated with messages I must add one more! Thanks to your advice/experiments- I was able to return the colour of my labia and surrounding skin to normal colour and stop itching! I bought some borax online and alternated (or sometimes at the same time) drinking a solution (1/8th teaspoon with approx. 1 litre -otherwise it would tire me out and give me digestive cramps), applying a saturated solution at every chance (toilet breaks, after showers, before bed etc) and taking borax baths. It started working after just a few days, I could see the colour changing and the itching stopped almost immediately. I will add, I did take a ACV bath on occasion and even more infrequently would make an ACV drink. Whilst I did adopt a large lifestyle change in the early stages (multi vits, exercise, cutting sugar, more greens, detox teas etc) I find that didn’t bring any noticeable relief and I became relaxed with any routine.
I will sayyyyyyy guys STRESS and WORRY 100% made this worse, I’ve had to work on not holding tension within my body. You can become so despondent with this dis-ease that you think you’ll have it forever and you’re doomed but this forum has brought me real hope.
Now, whilst the colour has returned and all was seemingly normal/well for about 6 weeks, I’ve now progressed to what I’ve been calling phase 2, which are these legions, bumps, growths, cauliflower like skin texturing beginning at the vaginal entrance and speeding out. I check weekly and it seems to be rapidly multiplying. I guess I’m officially now seeing the ‘Lichen’ and have jumped back on the borax , has anyone used borax for this and seen results?
Sorry for any spelling mistakes and thank you all for sharing your experiences,
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alistar Nat.asha
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Hi Natasha! I'm so glad that the borax has helped. I'm always thrilled to hear that...as is my husband. The other day when I was mentioning some of the positive posts he was so happy, he had thought maybe the thread would die off. But it's the complete opposite. More and more people are finally finding this thread and giving borax a try.
Now that aside, I'm completely unfamiliar with the growths/lesions that you are experiencing, so I cannot comment on them at all. But definitely try the borax again. I never saw my lichen, so maybe that's what it indeed looks like before fusing occurs, I have no idea. I hope though that the borax can help solve whatever it is. I do feel like someone else mentioned something about growths somewhere in this thread, but alas, I can't recall where/when/who.
Please keep us posted regardless, every bit of information helps.
sarb73328 alistar
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Hi Alistar Your experiment has been recommended by most of the women I have heard from on this forum and I have just started trying Borax Sodium Tetraborate bought on eBay in the UK as my fusing seems to have worsened.
I am applying it in a saturated solution morning and night.
My Doctor and gynae have dismissed it as moderate ('probably LS"
and not given me a clear diagnosis, nor any steroid as yet.
Can you tell me if the borax is still working for you and roughly how long was it before you saw fusing releasing?
alistar sarb73328
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Hi there,
Wow, so wonderful to hear that the borax treatment is getting recommended! I've been watching the numbers following and participating in this thread slowly go up, and I always wish more were aware, but maybe they are and I just don't know it!
Anyway, my LS would probably be classified in the mild-moderate range. I had some fusing, however since I had a small labia to begin with, my fusing was fairly minimal. It's been such a long time since I started this treatment (nearly a year n' a half!) that it's hard for me to remember how long before the unfusing took place, but I feel like it was in the two month range, but I can't be certain. I suppose I could scroll back and try to find when I posted about it occurring but that might take some time! Anyway, unfortunately LS reacts differently with each one of us, some reactions and responses more like than others. But definitely don't give up. I know that I've read of women continuing the treatment and then many months down the road having success with unfusing. I posted a link to a really great article about fusing and what it is, again, somewhere in all these threads - I was lucky that the moderator allowed the post as often links are not permitted. Anyway, it's a fantastic read and really gave me and many hope. If you aren't already, be sure to continue to moisturize as the treatment can be quite drying.
As for me now, I treat when I feel a flare-up coming on. That being said, I feel like those are getting further and far between thanks to a fairly stress-free life. My diet has always been pretty good, but it's probably even better here in Vietnam - less access to sweets.
Please keep us posted on how things go and if you have any further questions, ask away!
alistar sarb73328
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Hi there,
Wow, so wonderful to hear that the borax treatment is getting recommended! I've been watching the numbers following and participating in this thread slowly go up, and I always wish more were aware, but maybe they are and I just don't know it!
Anyway, my LS would probably be classified in the mild-moderate range. I had some fusing, however since I had a small labia to begin with, my fusing was fairly minimal. It's been such a long time since I started this treatment (nearly a year n' a half!) that it's hard for me to remember how long before the unfusing took place, but I feel like it was in the two month range, but I can't be certain. I suppose I could scroll back and try to find when I posted about it occurring but that might take some time! Anyway, unfortunately LS reacts differently with each one of us, some reactions and responses more like than others. But definitely don't give up. I know that I've read of women continuing the treatment and then many months down the road having success with unfusing. I posted a link to a really great article about fusing and what it is, again, somewhere in all these threads - I was lucky that the moderator allowed the post as often links are not permitted. Anyway, it's a fantastic read and really gave me and many hope. If you aren't already, be sure to continue to moisturize as the treatment can be quite drying.
As for me now, I treat when I feel a flare-up coming on. That being said, I feel like those are getting further and far between thanks to a fairly stress-free life. My diet has always been pretty good, but it's probably even better here in Vietnam - less access to sweets.
Please keep us posted on how things go and if you have any further questions, ask away!
sarb73328 alistar
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Don't know where that emoticon came from, I did not intend it!
liz0510 alistar
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debbie18443 liz0510
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Hi Liz,
Going back 18 months, I had a pretty persistent flare up, only settled recently when I started using the excellent Borax as described by Alistar - a truly amazing transformation- huge thanks 😊 For the initial 5 months of the flare I also had burning and soreness all down my inner thighs and in the skin folds at the top of my legs. It was hell, couldn't bear clothing to touch it, but the dermatologist just looked puzzled and shrugged it off. She prescribed a topical anaesthetic cream, lidocaine. As advised I used it sparingly only when it was at its worst. Eventually it settled. I believe (just my feeling) that it was sensitivity to Dermovate that caused it which I have recently switched to the milder Betnovate ointment. This seems to suit me much better. I also use organic pure aloe vera on my inner thighs daily to soothe. I hope the information is helpful. You have my sympathy as the discomfort can be debilitating. I hope things settle for you very soon.
liz0510 debbie18443
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Liz
mary10446 alistar
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I have just come back from The Churchill hospital, check up LS, I told the doctor about Borax and the success we were experencing .
I was told " I will ask the head of department about this , but I am sure if it worked they would know about it" !!!!!
Anna777 mary10446
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hanny32508 mary10446
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Almost funny. Borax can not be patented. Of course they know about its healing properties, but it won't make big pharma any money. I sometimes wonder whether the medical world is still about healing.
hanny32508 mary10446
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Bridge_of_Sighs Anna777
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Dt0106 Bridge_of_Sighs
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Hi everyone, I've been following this thread since May this year. I have followed the borax treatment and I have seen amazing results. I cannot express Enough how grateful I am for this. I feel like I have a new life in me again because of this treatment. My LS is about 90-95% better. I am astonished and I'm not in constant pain and itching my skin has returned back to normal. Thank you!!!!!!! Anyways, I do read everyone's comments but I am concerned what can occur with this Borax lifelong or long term??? Does anyone know? Also does anyone understand why we get this lichen to grow down there??? Why can stress and food trigger it? I'm curious to get to the root. Thanks
Anna777 Dt0106
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Hi Dt, From what I've read, LS is an auto-immune disease. The 3 main food culprits in auto-immune diseases are wheat, dairy and sugar. Stress makes any disease worse. We have a lot of stressors in this modern world, so anything else that can trigger reactions just overloads us and then disease can set in. So eliminating certain foods and chemicals from our environment when we can really helps.
Regarding long term use of borax (sodium borate), I've been using it now (externally) for over a year and a half. It has been a godsend for me. I can't imagine that long-term use is harmful, especially since it is an ingredient in many creams, cosmetics and bath salts.
Anna777 Bridge_of_Sighs
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alistar Dt0106
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I'm not sure we'll ever get to the root of LS as the trigger list is long and varied for each person. But, at lease we now have borax! I'm so happy you have had experienced such positive results. And it's posts like yours that will help others decided to take a chance on this treatment.
As for long term effects, I've been using it on and off for just over a year and a half. So far so good. I do believe that a naturopath that one of our contributors saw mentioned that it is good to take a break now and then just because our body/skin becomes used to it.
alistar mary10446
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No they wouldn't necessarily! As most of us has learned, LS has been misdiagnosed often. Many are not super familiar with it. It's those of us who suffer that are our best support at times!