Can you still have a uti even if culture came back negative.

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Hello,

So basically I've been suffering with bv, yeast infections and Uti's. I've had 3 different antibiotics for bv, and 2 for Uti's. During my last rounds of test everything came back negative, but the problem Is I still have symptoms. It burns when I pee and it smells bad. No frequency. But sometimes when I go pee only a little comes out and the pee is cloudy. My urologist wants to talk about the possibility Of having interstitial cystitis.i rather not have that because there is no cure. I also don't feel like I have that, but maybe I'm just in denial. My question is could I still have a uti even if the the cultures I got were negative? Could it maybe be a small uti? Is it possible. I just need hope I really don't want the other thing.

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    Yes my doctor said it might be not big enough amount bacteria to show on the test. I had a uti three weeks ago and I think I haven't got rid of it. But I can't see inside my self so I don't really know. I had about four of them this year so I know the symptoms. I was using thrush cream after the first lot of antibiotics because when I take them I uually get thrush. But ithe doctor just doesn't seem to give a damn. I think they just gave me drugs to make me go away. 

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      Oh okay, well just be careful with the over use of antibiotics.  The doctors here don't even bat an eye when there is low count of bacteria.  I have had in the past when I could take antibiotics, have feelings that the UTI did not go away, and when they checked it was negative, I was told that even though the bacteria is gone, sometimes it takes ahile for the bladder to heal itself.  Some antibiotics can aggravate the walls of the bladder despite killing the bacteria. 

       

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      Very possible.  I had an antifelactic reaction last week to the drug and ended up in ERnfor treatment.
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      that sounds logical.  I have long hair and have lost 50% in 5 years using RX I bet.
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      There is resistance to antibiotics but some of us would not be here typing if it were not for antibiotics !

      Doctors and even 2nd line specialists are the main professionals to blame and especially when it comes to UIis. A massive percentage of patients who receive an antibiotic course are prescribed a short course.

      This is not on because a small amount ( colony) may have survived the antibiotic that was eradicating them until of course the taking of the antibiotics stop. How many patients are even diagnosed correctly and more to the point how many are tested clinically to see if the infection has gone?

      Not many I wager.  I myself had an infection that no doctor could fathom that goes back decades.

      What I found was that no doctor or specialist looked in my old medical history & yet there is strong advice from the medical profession that looking into medical history can attribute 80% of a correct diagnosis!  The fact that most doctors do not delve back into medical history is astounding but it is a fact that may well change when a patients history comes up on screen right in front of the doctors vision.

      When a person knows and feels as if he or she has an infection and it is not confirmed matters start to get irritating in the true sense of the word. However if the medical profession make a mistake

      regarding a diagnosis and they miss an infection I have found they will club together and do whatever is necessary to do a cover up. It's nice that I am well and can look back on the learning curve but I think it is astonishing but to be expected from the exclusive club these folks are in.

      Many doctors here in the UK  simply do not look at a patients history but I would have thought it would be obvious to do just that bearing in mind that us old ones could be harboring a nasty little infection called  tuberculosis. Some of us are totally resistant to that bacteria all of our lives but some are partially resistant to it most of the time but for those who are not totally resistant succumb to it in varying degrees of severity. That particular bacteria is sometimes extreamly difficult to diagnose that

      is if that doctor looking after you is even familiar with that bacteria but I would bet most doctors in the UK do not think it ( TB ) exists.

      If you do not think this to be true why did an eminent heamatologist say --- TB exists in those that bring it in. His meaning was no born & bred British folk have 'it'.......  How wrong he was.  Before the 2nd world war and just after TB was rife and no wonder.  In the eighties most doctors were under the

      impression TB had gone.  Wrong, a GP told me he had to see a young chap in bed that 2 others had seen.  He was a mature doctor who had a good experience with TB and immediately asked for a sputum test which confirmed what he suspected. This is a prime example of what is happening today and it is wrong. Another doctor who is in the know re TB said to me in reply to me firing a statement to him that I had TB as a kid but seem to have been resistant to it but no one can put their finger on my problems & I wonder how & what TB can do if it re-emerges. His reply might startle some because he said TB can get anywhere in the human body........

      I ask myself has the NHS got the funds to do everything that is necessary for everyone's optimal good?

      I'll leave that one to all you good peoples thoughts.

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    I am going through the exact symptoms, tired, but no smell and just had a culture three days ago after a 7 day round of antibiotic.

    are there food causes for symptoms maybe?

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    Hi Cassie

    How did you make out? I'm going through same exact thing you went through. Antibiotics not helping and last two tests came out negative. However I was on antibiotics while I took the one urine test. And my last urine test was incomplete due to contamination. Not a clean catch. It all started with Ecoli in September. Now I'm still suffering. Mine was resistant. Ecoli attached inself to bladder lining. They're like fish hooks. Hard to find unless urine sits for 5-7 days. Longer it sits better it is too find when you don't have many bacteria left. My dr doesn't listen at all. She basically labeled me with IC and wouldn't retest my urine. So I have no dr now. Awaiting Urology appointment 5/22. Going to make an appointment with infectious disease too. In meantime since I'm in unbearable burning pain in urethra I'm going to try d Mannose. It can't hurt. I'm sick of these Drs these days. Antibiotics kill both good and bad bacteria. And the wicked Ecoli won't be killed off by them. D Mannose is actually feeding the Ecoli. So it's worth a shot. I hope you are doing better now. My pee is also cloudy and strong smelling and burns when I pee. Even burns all day and night. Driving me crazy. I never had bladder or urethra issues. I know mine is infection just wasn't killed properly. So I'm going to try to kill it myself. Let me know how you are and how you made out! Thank you and praying for us all! This is terrible 😥

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      Hi Tara,

      The good thing about a urologist is they tend to order microscopic urinalysis, this is where the urine is spun and looked under a microscope before sending for a culture....it can detect any unseen bacteria.  D-mannose is an antiadhesion for the bladder and the good thing is it works great agaist E-coli.  I myself was dealing with strep b so it was not much of a help, but I did feel relief taking it.  I take it now for a preventative.  If nothing is found under microscopic urinalysis than chances are there is nothing and perhaps it is inflammation from all the antibiotics, because they can wreck havoc when taken long term and can cause IC.  To relive the symptoms you could try pepermint tea, avoid any acidic drinks and food....caffiene is a big no no and a urologist will tell you that is the first to go...this includes chocolate.  It really is not a nice feeling.

       

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      Hi Linda

      I know it's not IC. I still have this devil monster of Ecoli. I know it. I wasn't given many antibiotics. My last dr really didn't treat me. She gave me Macrobid and augmentin. But last urine test at hospital they did while I was on augmentin. So not an accurate test. My last one says contaminated. I know that's my issue. Diet changes do nothing for me. Either way. And IC meds nothing either. I'm doing dmannose now. I'll let you know how I make out. I've tried everything else under the sun. 8 months of hell and lost 8 months of my life. Drs don't listen. They just label me with IC. No tests. Nothing. Too many Drs label patients with IC and then they suffer when in fact it's not even IC. Terrible. I know my body and they are wrong. I see a new Urologist on Monday. I'll see how dmannose works and I'll let you all know how I make out with everything. Ty!!!!!!

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      I 100% agree, it is not normal to feel uncomfortable in that area......D-mannose is great and works well against e-coli you may have to take the highest dose for a few weeks....I take it daily even thought I don't have e-coli because it is a preventative and has anti adhesion properties.  I wish you the best of luck, I really got no where with the urologist or gyno, I pretty much has to trial and error through it myself costing me hundreds if not over the thousand mark to get to a place where I feel improvements, I still have my days, but it is better than before. I question if it were them going through it would they not look further.  Best of luck and keep us posted. 

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      Hi Tara. I feel exactly like you...although I'm only on week 6 of this hell. Unfortunately, all of my cultures and ua's have come back negative with high luekocytes. I want to get a copy of the actual numbers because I could have a CFU of 999,999 but if it's not over 100,000, it won't come back as a positive UTI. I'm going with a private lab later this week to have a comprehensive culture done. I took one dose of an antibiotic today (I Weasled them out of urgent care) so I want to wait a few days to ensure accuracy.

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      How many D Mannose do you take a day?   I take one along with so many other things (probiotics, cranberry tablets, etc.etc)   When my urine is tested they think I have a UTI and culture comes back clear.  I have a prolapsed bladder (grade 2) and an overactive bladder. I have a pessiary which worked well for a long time.   Dr. wanted to start me on a program called PTNS To strengthen my bladder muscles.   I had a urodynamic test which showed I emptied well.   After my last PTNS treatment, the very next day and had the frequency so bad.   I had the antibioticMacrobid here so decided to take one.  I took them for 2 days and then felts nausious, so I stopped.  Tomorrows Monday so I will call the dr.   Urologist suggested a sling, but the gynecologist doesnt want to do this.   She said lots of time it doesnt work.  Im at my wits end and dont know what to do.   This has been going on for years.

       

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      Seems to be a lot of this weird stuff going on out there. Ya can't help but wonder why it is cropping up now and so many of us ladies have it. Been to ER once with it then three times to Urgent care center. It makes your whole body feel drained and ill. When any urine goes through urethra it is a bearing down burning pain as if someone is sticking a fire hot ice pick in it. Have app to see a urologist. He has no idea what he is in for. I am 68 and have had enough bad doctor experience to know what I don't have to put up with. All I can say is he better be educated enough to figure this out cause I am not settling for the diagnosis of IC. That is what they tell you when they are not knowledgeable enough to really find out what the heck it is.. Be firm girls and demand they send you to someone who knows what they are talking about. 

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      Tara- I've been dealing with pretty much **exactly** your experience, which started for me about 5 months ago. It's been hellish and I totally feel for you. I started taking high doses of d-mannose two days ago after lots of internet research-- Minimal changes in symptoms at this point. Can I ask whether it worked for you and what your current status is? Have you been able to determine what is causing your symptoms? Would sincerely appreciate an update or any insights you can share as I hope the information might help me and others. Thank you!

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    Hi Cassie: my name is Tammy Rowe, I've been having trouble with Bladder Infections for the last 4 years. I always get tested negitive. I have to wait to get treated until it gets so bad, I can barely walk; my back hurts so bad that I can barely walk, and my stomache is so swollen: I look like i've gained 15 pounds, and there is blood in my urine. It's so aggrivating. One doctor also told me I had Int. Cystytis. My doctor has me taking Marshmellow root: with flare up. There are also 2 other natural pills she wants me to take daily (I never got them.) My mother was the same way, and thats what ended up killing her. There is a natural sugar that kills the bacteria, I need to order it. My daugjter is 17 and pg. and she us 7 months, and has had a bladder infection for 2 months, now she has blood in her urine, and has really back back pains. They keep testing her, and it comes out negitive. I just dont get it. Good luck!

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      Hi everyone,

      I've been suffering for 9 years with chronic utis and now I'm suffering with constant diarrhoea and stomach pain for 5 months straight. Only now have I been referred to a gastroenterologist instead or urologist and am being tested for SIBO. I believe that it's all linked. I've just had a breath test and am waiting for my results. Maybe others are suffering too?

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      A Special nurse 'assessor' in A&E who is very savvy and who confirms whether a person should go through to A& E or what else should transpire.........  What she said to me was quite educational to say the least but it is well worth  taking in what she said.

      I just mentioned Urologists to her and she said ==Oh don't get me started on urologists----- my dad had a catheter in situe for three months that he did not need.......!  I put a question to her to to ruffle her feathers a bit more by saying do you know there are a lot of doctors and urologists that say a man

      cannot pass a bacterial infection to his wife or sexual partner......... Her correct reply was  " well how does one get an STD then" ,now called a STI I believe. 

      Is it any wonder many patients have little trust in their medical practitioners?  There must certainly be many excellent doctors and nurses doing all they can and are very experienced and professional

      in what they do. It is very disconcerting to find however that many do not seem to be as sharp as they should be.

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