Cause of dead Immune System

As I told you in my original words to you....get on a powerful antioxidant and I'm talking about grape seed extract or pycnogenol.----stay on one or the other....I started in 1995 and never miss a day except when I had hip surgery...had to get off them for 5 days.....back on right after....

Vit C daily is important too....1000mg or more.

Eliminate carbs and sugars....veggies and protein and quality water....

Talking to my neighbor yesterday and she goes off the grape seed ex and ends up sick....yesterday her voice was clear and she sounded good, she's back on grape seed....I said to her don't go off.

Keep Echineaca on hand when something feels like it's starting hit the Echineaca, works for me all the time....

It's up to you to jumpstart your immune system and I'm giving my advice but

it's up to YOU...

If you take bloodthinners then caution as one should not take both.

Do some research on these antioxidants.....I have no more to say for now.....good luck....j

Hello Joy --- I have a bad feeling that you are dumping me.How can I 

sort myself out if you are not there to ask.

Is the Pycnogenol  the one made from  pine tree bark, and in what form do you take  grape seed.

Off to see the shoulder surgeon tomorrow .will HAVE to tell you what

he says.

Don't take blood thinners  I am taking Vit amin D now ,and probiotics.

What do you think about Aloe Vera ? any good  ? 

Sounds as though you have your neighbours under control 

So,  night. hope you sleep well 

Good on the Vit D and Probiotics me too...

Pyc is from pine bark, Yes..... Grape Seed Ex is from seeds of the grapes...

Grape Seed Ex is excellent and if it's easy to obtain I'd go that route....I take 200mg Grape Seed Ex two times per day morning and early evening...start with 200mg per day and go from there....if you are heavier weight then one needs a higher dose than 200mg per day.....

Aloe Vera is good, I take about 2 onces daily in my morning MSM drink.

Some days I just get overwhelmed with the emails from the group here...gotta back down.

Grape Seed Ex keeps our blood clean and thin so if you do a surgery gotta get off it a week or so before then back on after surgery.....Hope you don't do a surgery, I'm not a fan of elective surgery.... I elected a hip replacement and it's been a tough road....not a good outcome.

You are obviously very popular ,and have a large following of "Groupiess"

makes life interesting, and keeps your brain and fingers active 

Don't know what time it is with you but it's 10-25pm here , time for some

beauty sleep ,and hope to wake up minus this head cold 

Night, glad you are there x

I don't know how popular I am, but I know a lot and I butt in and maybe I have to stop butting so much. Working for 25 yrs with alternatives gives me something...I think....

Plus older folks have lots of life's wisdom.....I've learned about life stuff from my older buddies...one has to keep learning...

I'ts 3:20PM so we are about 7 hrs difference....

My butt is challenged with spinal stenosis so sitting too long raises havoc....After hip replacement stenosis was so bad and I had a lot of PT, acupuncture and other alternative protocols, I could hardly sit for a few minutes....now I sit too long and butt starts to burn etc and am stiff when I stand up.

Oh the beauty of it all. But could always be worse, I could have a dead immune system, haha

Just an FYI: I use Vicks Vapor Rub on my arthrtic feet and even knee and I sleep much better, wear socks of course.....you could use some Vicks for that head cold....and get better so you can start to rebuild.... Vicks was a sacred name in our house growing up. j

Your sense of humour is alive and kicking very necessary piece of

equipment these days 

What you need is a HUGE squashy cushion to sit on, or the new office chairs where you rest on your knees and keep the weight off your bum.

sorry--- butt-- 

Tiger Balm is very popular here  rubbed on eveerything that hurts,

Chinese medicines known for their healing powers have to say the balm

is .good on muscles .You would probably have to ask a friend to do your

bum

It's 7-30 am time for breakfast scrambed eggs ,yes, they are free range.

You have done it again !!!! what is FY1?  I'm good at most things, but

thought readiing isn't one of them 

Dismal day here ,,never get the washing dry .

Have to get scrubbed up and put hte slap on ready for my 4-30  appt 

and his day of"" doing  Me ""

  You will be in bed. I think ,by now . speak soon x

hey jacqueline

i appreciated your input on the LS site....we're trying to defend alternatives.

the site had been very hostile ....and i had complaints!! but i explained myself and the alt med section was set up...this is off topic ....sorry to the author of this thread. may i continue please?

oh hang on jac ...its your discussion so i'm ok!!? speak soon x very interested in your perspective...and joys...hi joy.....we 've talked about magnesium and other things xxxxxxxxx 

i'm looking for some votes for members who have so kindly posted in support of keeping the LS thread reformed as it is now...which is 'integrated' as i see it...just needs a bit of mutually careful and respectful posting. but to put you both in the picture...jac i traced you from your contribution to that discussion on the Lichen Sclerosus Group Discussion....do you have some vulval irritation which you can't identify perhaps? yes alan has been very positive in his role as moderator but at first i came under attack and realised i was being bullied about a year ago. i was unable to engage with members and was actually told (you won't believe this) .... that the site was for chit chat only to allow members to just take their meds...a horrendous topical steroid...and to get on with their lives without having to think about alternatives or to be constantly discussing their meds. obviously i felt put in my place and of course accepted the advice that some don't want to be challenged or to talk about taking their prescribed meds. my gp practically threatened me that if i didn't take the meds i'd get cancer!!!!!!! i imagine most have had the same 'talking to' by GP/MD s  and Consultants. it is a tricky condition but alternatives will emerge. anyway i wanted to thank you for noticing us jacqueline xxx

rather than posting within the discussion on the LSG could we continue here? would love to know your perspectives x

I had no idea these discussions were going on and how alternatives were threatened.....

I know that here in the U.S. Codex organization which is a World Trade group have worked for many years to shut down our alternative world.... I remember about 20 yrs ago our first great health food store coop in santa monica were being threatened and yellow banners were on empty shelves of supplements....

Pharma industry is HUGE and as I've said every other TV ad here is pushing a drug for this and that and what they can cure....and then list a few of the possible side effects.....

Once in a great while a tv ad may shows an alternative, like calcium and or magnesium...but it's pretty rare....Those tv ads cost millions of dollars and so pharma has to keep making all the money they can to pay for all these ads too.

Yes, I';d probably go to a pharma drug if it's a life or death situation, but I've always believed there is a more natural remedy for all health

issues....Nutrition is major.

I'm much older than MOST of you and I reemember the first health book here in the states was Prevention Magazine and my mom got that little book every month...when that book arrived it was her highlight on health.

Then many years later I found Alternative Medicine Magaizine and it was the highlight of my health and life for that matter....I devoured it and probably subscribed for 10 yrs...NOW everything is online....

If I can't talk about my health and what has worked for me I'd be dead...

Hello Marey, don't know if I can be any use to you, but I am here  To be

absolutely honest  have never heard of your condition. until Alan put  me on to it . I was trying to get him to give people easy access to a forum I started called Divi  Diners where fellow sufferers of Diviticulitis could get some help with stuff   to eat and avoid I think ALAN is a computer whizz

and expects me to know what he wants me to do, and I don't understand

at all. So I give up, and Alan leaves me high and dry ,still not knowing

directions to the forum 

I have no probs with my "bits" but it sounds truly awful. I see you have found Joy ,if anyone can help you she is definitely the one  You DID 

report your doctor Didn't you ???????????

Keep at 'em . I annoy my doctor to death, because I question his

meds, which usually end up in the bin . why are people so nasty towards you ?  Ignore them ,my attitude is, for every person that dislikes you ,ten people do    

No problem with that 

thank you so much....nice to meet you. do you know how to PM alan? little envelope beneath his name....catch up with him xxxxxxx

dive dinners is a brill name!! I love it x will put others on to you if i meet anyone xxxxx

thanks for everything joy xxxxxxxxxx

Top right corner Feedback  go there and ask for him . If he is on duty he will

 respond sooner or later or he picks up on stuff , if he thinks you need help. He knows now that i am a ditz on this machine  OR as you noticed the private mail bit, that should get his attention   Good hunting 

if you send sufferers its DIVI DINERS what are you like !!!!!!!!!

brill ...thank you!

ok diners!!  bit of a difference between eating and being eaten xxxx

oh dear divi  ...as well x

really inspired tho...and i do love the name...the brain fog getting to me tho.

do either of you have autoimmunity?

Hello Marey, just checking to see if you are O.K. and if you have dumped 

Joy and myself. 

shame if you have dumped Joy, because the outstanding knowlede she 

has would probably helped you  big time,

Is Brain fog contagious ?

Don't know about the auto thing , I am cerainly not immune to my auto,

I could'nt  live without it wrong one , try again

.

ha ha jacueline....just got this one !! very droll. what kind of vehicle have you got? mine is an old banger...i specialise in old bangers...good for getting mucky and for humping horse food around.

fully appreciate joy...i am an ardent follower!

brain fog not contagious but a symptom of low thyroid....am working on it!!

speak soon !! xx

 

Hey you spring chickens, I've never had the brain fog stuff, keep waiting for it but it does not come....that is a good thing, right.

My salvations are grape seed ex and thyroid support, circulation circulationn circulation....head to toe. Keep the blood flowing and clean.

well you are a fabulous advertisement for it !!

totally quick witted and mentally agile...i'll have some of that !!!!!!!!!

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx yours in admiration !!

Hi everybody. Enjoyed reading all these posts. I also have problems with immune system. I put it down to all the chemicals we consume without knowing enough about them. IBUPROFEN I would never take. I am skeptical of NSAID's. Am having stem cell treatment for an arthritic knee and all NSAID's are forbidden during treatment. ECHINACEA I take every year as this boosts the immune system. I also take BRONCHO VAXOM which steers colds, flu and bronchitis away from my direction during winter months. It is costly and OTC but worth every penny. I never touch water out of plastic bottles either as certain chemicals in the water have an adverse effect on the plastic and vice versa. I would like to give you a warning to never use anything containing: METHYLISOTHIAZOLINONE. You can look it up online for further information. Parabens are not good for us and this is now being born out by many companies who use the wording: CONTAINS NO PARABENS. It is a costly matter for them to have that added to their products too! As for skin cancer, I have had since many years pre-cancerous skin. I love the sun and know I need it for my Vitamin D. I also know that if we swamp on creams with a high SPF, we are virtually blocking out that Vitamin!  So what are we to do? I have a stock of creams that would put a pharmacy to shame but now have decided to use only oils like Avocado and Macadamia oils. These are natural and cant do harm. But it took me so many years to discover how bad all these creams can be. Jacqueline what a pity you didnt dose yourself up with Echinacea before that visit to the hospital!  Coughs and Sneezes spread diseases. All doctors in a clinic nearby are taking BRONCHO VAXOM to protect themselves. However since its an OTC products, they don't prescribe them to any of us!  So am passing this on to you all. Its possible its known by another name in other countries.  It's nice chatting to you all.

thank you for your commiserations about my bout of unasked for germs It went away fairly raidly, as my cure is to go to bed , Paracetamol. lots to drink. and amuse myself, and keep in a stable temperature so it stays in my head and no further.

Interesting your comments about chemicals and medication .I decided

enough is enough, so. after 20 years of swallowing god knows what.

i have stopped taking prescription drugs, and use only natural remedies

Have to say I have not suffered any threatened withdrawal symptoms.

in fact I feel really well, in all parts of my body I do take Vit D and

probiotics daily and throw in Vit C and flax tabs I think that fear is the reason people take every medication that G/P s insist they need.

Take care 

Mayday, I read where you are  going to do stem cells for the arthritic knee, I know about them and for me my budget can't do them, $2000 an injection here in the US....I'm getting closer to doing the Prolozone injections for the arthritic knee mess I deal with, they are oxygen and B vitamins in the injections...   These all can work but one has to dish out the money to try them, no guarantees either....and knee surgery is out of the question for this gal.

Jacqi, good to wake up to the push for the drugs.....that is why I dove into supplemments 25 yrs ago.....I steer clear of conventional MD's....

 

Mine too! 

Been taking grape seed for years... Really helps.

jacqueline and everybody else:  Take BRONCO VAXOM.  Get the 30 talet size and follow the directions. You are then immune for about 6 months from bronchial maladies. It works. Is NOT on prescription but worth it.