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That's brilliant news, Lorraine. Fingers this well for you!

Thank you evergreen ♥ I'm not convinced this will last too much longer! But for now, it's wonderful.

Have your withdrawal symptoms subsided? Really hope so xx

Yes, I only had one bad day. I am not even sure that was due to withdrawal as there were other factors at play. I prefer not to put symptoms down to withdrawal if I can because I find this keeps me more positive and optimist and gives strength to press on. I'm going down to 1.875mg (or as close to that as cutting up pills can make it) tonight. xx

Fantastic! You are nearly there! ♥

You are quite right positivity is key, although hard ton hang on to sometimes!

You and the others on this thread have given me not just positivity but amazing support! truly grateful

God bless xx

Good evening Ladies & Gents.

The anx' is due to cortisol hormones Si.

Normally, cortisol levels rise during the early morning hours and are highest about 7 a.m. They drop very low in the evening and during the early phase of sleep. But if you sleep during the day and are up at night, this pattern may be reversed.  Some say its best to exercise to burn it off in the mornings.  I don't think it is to do with your change in lifestyle, it's the stress of WD.

I hope your next drop goes well for you Evergreen, this discussion thread sure is one of great interest, we can all learn from this. Onlyahill uptaking Mirt,  2 CT's, one medium speed drop from Evergreen, 2 slow coaches Betsy & myself.  So all hang on in there, keep posting and let us know how it goes; I promise to let you know how the slow road goes too.  I don't think I've read of any real slow drops on this forum funnily enough, just the advice to do it slow.

Best wishes everyone x

I agree calmer ♥

Couldn't ask or didn't expect such a great learning tree on this thread. Such nice contributors at varying stages of health. Really informative. ..fab! ♥

Hi si.

I think all would agree mornings are definitely the worst. I think sometimes it set's us up to believe the whole day will be just as bad! Then we can get pleasantly surprised when we get a good couple of hours!

It was a learning curve for me too going to job centre! But once you sign as sick you don'tneed to keep attending. I found it straight forward as they will visit you at home if you are too poorly to attend.

Hoping your evening is going much better than this morning♥

Xx god bless

Hi Lorraine

How are you today, sleep well?  Hope you have a better day x

I'm just about to go in for my second session with my shrink but when I get home I will look up cortisol and learn more about it. Been up since 4am today. So very tired but determined not to cat nap. Thank you as ever calmer.

I won't have access to the internet for several days so just want to wish you all in your journey over the next week my very best wishes. Will be thinking of you all

Day 4

Having difficult day. Stomach been really bad and very tearful. Feel overall run down and laying in bed! Not sure if this withdrawal or delayed reaction to do with my granddaughter. Taken Diazepam, but tears still rolling! Hope you are having a better day ♥

Make sure you come back to us si! Keep plugging away..you will get there soon xx

You're ever so welcome Si.  

4 am, I remember that awful goddam hour when I first started with insomnia (the reason I went on Mirt) ... it's an awful time.  You know if say you were suffering with a pain in your shoulder and couldn't sleep, you might get up, take a pain killer, walk around a bit, let the pain killer kick in then go back to bed... now you're going to think I've lost the plot!! What if, when you wake in the early hours, you get up, walk around - convince yourself you have a pain and that's why you can't sleep, take 2 paracetamol, wait for say 15 minutes and get back into bed, see if it does anything for you.  I know it's the last thing anyone would really dream of doing, but it might help to stop worrying that you won't be able to sleep - which just revs up the adrenalin & therefore makes us angst ... no pc's or bright lights, just dim ones.  We're doing a kind of moving meditation here

I hope your meeting with the p.doc went ok, enjoy the one to one, it's all yours, 

You know, that nap in the afternoon, some time between 1 & 3 preferably, never after 4, may well just take the edge off, kind of help you to sleep in the evening Si; it's not a sleep problem you're trying to alter really, it's the WD waking you up and not to be confused between the two.

Sleeping late afternoon or in the evening before bed will interrupt your night time sleep though.  Been reading all sorts re sleep problems, sorry for the lecture !!!