Excessive Yawning and Constant Need to Breathe Deep
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For the past few days, I've been yawning a lot, much more than average (once every few minutes I feel the need). If I'm not yawning I'm breathing in as deep as I can to get similar "satisfaction". Often I cannot get the "satisfaction" from these and so the urge grows and grows, meaning it can get quite uncomfortable. When I do manage it, the urge is back a few seconds later. This is whether I'm tired or not, almost all day.
I'm not particularly anxious about anything in particular, and get the same amount of sleep as before this started.
This also happened at some point within the past year which continued for a month or two if I remember correctly.
Does anyone have any idea what it is or how to make it a bit better?
Thanks.
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janet1000 FlutterbyPie
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bridget85217 janet1000
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ben20913 janet1000
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will71922 FlutterbyPie
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I just wanted to let anyone here who is still struggling with this know that I have cured it -- I used a very simple technique called the Buteyko Method. It has absolutely vanished. Basically, the reason all of us cannot seem to get a deep breath, is because we are breathing TOO MUCH. I know, it feels like we aren't breathing enough, and we are dying for air. But its the opposite, I assure you. One thing you can do right now if you are reading this is lay down on your left side on your bed, and, ONLY breathing through your nose, try to breath as little as possible. You will feel a shortness of breath at first -- don't make yourself uncomfortable. But do try to breathe less for ten minutes. You should do this with the aim of breathing so lightly that your can't even hear yourself breathing. Let the belly rise naturally and calmly, but slow slow slow down your breathing and try to make it light as a feather. Make it so you are breathing so little and so lightly. See how you feel. Email me anytime if you would like my further suggestions about this. I know how much it *****, and how totally euphoric I feel now every day after learning this techniquw. Email anytime. ***@**** --Will
golden212 will71922
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stopyawning will71922
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Sent you a PM on this.
Would like to know more about how you handled this issue. Thanks.
will71922 stopyawning
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After about a year of feeling the constant need to yawn to get a deep breath, I was at the point where I was basically totally freaking out. I would feel like I couldn't get that sort of "satisfying" deep breath, which was baffling, because to my knowledge I had changed nothing in my overall behavior. It was like it just suddenly started happening more. Even more confusing, is that sometimes it would be happening, and I would think to my self , "Huh, I'm not doing that weird breathing thing anymore" and then I would immediately have breathing trouble, right after I noticed this! It was so confusing and nightmarish. So after going to multiple doctors, getting breath tests, and having them say, very nicely, that there was nothing physically wrong with me and that it was likely just anxiety, I did some research on my own. I discovered something called the Buteyko Method online, and found a local 4-day course to take in my neighborhood. It literally changed my life. I hesitate to describe the method in detail, because I am not licenses or anything. But basically, here is the premise in a nut shell:
The reason I was having trouble breathing, was because I was breathing TOO MUCH! I was not aware of this at all, let me assure you. As Human Beings on this planet, when we encouter any kind of stressor in our environment, the breathing center in our brain speeds up. Evolutionarily, this is quite handy -- if a caveman sees a tiger, he us going to need to either kill the damn thing or run for his life. He (or she for that matter) will need access to lots and lots of immediate oxygen. So the breathing naturally speeds up. When the danger is gone, in other words if the tiger is dead or the cave person has out-run it, the breathing naturally slows. Have you every been to a dog park and seen dogs playing and then one of them gets in a fight? Afterwards, the dog usually does this "shake" to shake off excess enerygy. The he or she just goes back to playing like nothing happened. I think it is the same principle: all of a suddent the body is flooded with energy and needs more breath, but when the activity is over, it very quickly re-establishes it self back to basline.
So now here's the problem: in our Modern world, as wonderful as it can be sometimes, there are so many damned stressors that our Human minds can't really every calm down and go back to that "baseline" resting place. There is ISIS and the threat of Global Terror; there is Ebola that will come and wipe us all out; there are Earthquakes, Tsunamis, Recessions, Bankruptcy, school shootings, all kinds of things that, while not necessarily likely to happen to us, are still there in the mind. Its like the mind is always on "Red Alert". There are some people who believe that this is largely due to the media, and I think there is some truth to this: just turn on the TV. All the news is basically telling us that there is the "Impending Disaster", this methaphorical Tiger coming to get us and no one know when or how but its coming.
My point is, and sorry for the rant, but our minds are on a constant of hightened anxiety. What happens? Our breathing speeds up. This happens automatically, is happens over months and years, and it happens totally without our knowledge of it happening. Suddenly one day you wake up, like I did, and you can't breath and you don't know why. The reality is that it comes from years of living in our modern world with all its problems. So, what to do?
Have you ever seen Buddhist monks mediate? One thing to note is that they do not take these huge, deep, heaving breaths. This is a bit of a misnomer. When I used to work in the emergency room, I was told to take a few deep, cleansing breaths before a stressful situation, to calm myself. This makes sense, to pay attention to the breathe, but they had it backwards: what I should have done was to slow slow slow down my breaht and intentionally make it shallow, almost imperceptible, just like the monks. There are some monks who only take in one breathe every couple of minutes it is so slow and light. There belly hardly moves at all.
So what is happening here? All it is simply the relationship between CO2 and Oxygen. If you google the "Bohr" effect, a well-known medically observed occurence, this will help to make this clear. When an animal, and a human, starts breathing too heavily, the balance of CO2 and Oygen shifts. Suddenly there is too much oxygen and not enough CO2. Like I said, this is helpful in an emergecny, but if it becomes chronic, the balance is shifted too much and for too long, and when it becomes out of balance, Oxygen actually decreases in the body. So when you intentionally slow down the breathing, expelling less CO2, the CO2 levels normalize, and thus the Oxygen levels normalize as well. I really hope you google this because as I am writing this I know I don't have a very solid grasp on how it works. But you will learn all of this if you take a Buteyko class, which I strongly suggest you do! Speaking of which, we come to the solution: the intentional, progressive slowing down of the breath, until the Oxygen/Co2 balance is restored. I.E Buteyko breathing. Thats all there is to it. I have found several things to be quite important, which I wil list below, but please take a damned course so you know this for yourself!
First of all, exercise is a must!! Every time you get aerobic exercise, you are helping to correct the problem. Just remember: breathe through your nose only. This is crucial. If you are breathing through your mouth, at any time, you are definitely taking in TOO MUCH oxygen. You are exacerbating the problem. This is why yawning is really, really bad. Its counter-intuitive; it feels like the only time you get a really good breath is when you take a deep, yawn. But this is the whole problem. You have to stop yawning with you moouth open. You have to stop doing everything for that matter with you mouth open (except eating, talking and kissing...have I forgotten anything?)
Also, one thing you can do right now, is find a comfortable position, either sitting or lying on your side (never on your back! you will naturally breath too deep and too much in this position). Now intentionally slow down your breathing and also make it very shallow. I am not saying to breathe high in your chest: this is completly wrong. Breathe with your abdomen ONLY. But don't breathe deeply; breathe lightly and slowly. At first, you are guaranteed to feel an increase in breathlessness. It is an awful feeling, I won't lie. Don't make yourself uncomfortable!! If you feel like you need to take a deep breath, then do so. But gradually gradually gradually, patiently and persistently, for 10 minutes, try to breath less and less, just like the Buddhist monks. See how you feel.
Sorry for this epic-length reply. It is just so important that you do this for yourself, because you will feel so much better!! After practicing this, you won't need any more convincing, because it works so well and you feel so good that it becomes totally natural. Nowm when I go for a jog, or I am driving, or even giving a presentation at work, I am aware that my breathing is very slow and peaceful, and that my mouth is closed at almost all times. It feels so wonderful, so peaceful, so calming. I hope this helps. Good luck. Will
stopyawning will71922
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Funny, the problem has subsided a bit since then and I think just knowing that I wasn't going looney and there were others in the same boat was a big help. I emailed my doctor a link to the thread.
This is the worst episode of this problem I've ever had since I first noticed it years ago, and I'm praying that it's not signaling a change of any kind.
Keeping the mouth completely closed will be a challenge. No doubt I've been a "mouth breather" from childhood. However, it's worth the effort to try. I'm curious to see if I can do that during my exercise which, at times, gets pretty intense.
The other benefit is that I know there is quick relief, at least to a manageable state, just by employing the Buteyko method. The night before I found the forum and messaged you, I had the worst of it and really thought I had a serious case. I went to bed very early and began to breathe through my nose in a calm and repetitive manner just because I didn't know what else to try.
Though it was a bit uncomfortable and I sucked down a few yawning breaths in between, I found those came pretty easily and without struggle once I was relaxed. A few minutes into this pattern, I feel asleep. On the whole, that's reassuring.
So, I'll give what you suggest a good try and I'm sure it will be effective.
Thanks again for the reply. It's a big help.
josephine_30311 will71922
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I’ve been practicing Buteyko breathing ever since it was first mentioned on the forum a few months ago. It’s pretty amazing.
I only have mild COPD but even so, my breathing has improved tremendously. Most importantly .. I don’t panic any more.
The hardest thing for me was keeping my mouth closed and breathing through my nose .. mainly because one or other of my nasal passages always seemed to be permanently blocked. But I soon discovered that the very act of Buteyko breathing in itself, cleared them (something to do with CO2 in the blood breaking down mucus). Even so, It took quite a lot of practice and determination to rid myself of the habit of perpetual mouth-breathing because after decades of being ‘slack-jawed it felt so odd keeping me damn mouth closed all the time But I persevered, and now .. for the first time in years and years .. I can breath through my nose normally, steadily, and calmly.
An added bonus, is that it’s changing the shape of my face! My jaw-line is firmer, the jowls are receding, and the dreaded ‘lizard-neck’ which can tend to creep up on we ladies of a ‘certain age’, is much much less pronounced.
As Will said, the technique has to be learnt, (there are plenty of instruction videos on Youtube) and I would also advise taking it very gently at first .. the need for oxygen and the urge to gasp in huge mouthfuls of it, is strong and overwhelming at times .. but with practice and patience the results are SO worth it.
As I said above .. it’s pretty amazing. It’s changed my life too.
Jo
Shirl1419 will71922
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I did what you said, I layed down on my left side and for 10 mins I slowed down my breathing down. Ever since yesterday I've stopped yawning and have become more aware of my breathing . Needles to say this definitely has everything to do with what is going on presently in my life (wedding, bills, kids, spouse and running a business ).
I can't thank you enough for you post that has truly changed the way I think. I really thought I was like some type of hypochondriac, when in reality I rarely get sick. I will definitely look into Buteyko breathing so I can continue this long term.
Anyone who has this problem please please give this a try!!!! It is truly a blessing!!!!
Thank you for taking the time to post this.
cmrrmc will71922
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mark71817 will71922
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I'm desperate, I few like I'm going crazy and it hurts really bad.
I can even concentrate enough to read simple instructions. please help me
jonno1234 will71922
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bob71029 will71922
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will71922 bob71029
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Always, always, always, from this moment forward, breathe through your nose. Do not breathe through your mouth. Ever. When you are walking, perform the "Breath Holds" described by Patrick and other practioners. If you can locate a trained Buteyko teacher/class, then all the better. Try something right now; find a comfortable chair or couch, and sit comfortably. Try your best to relex. Notice how you are breathing; it is heavy, noisy, through the mouth? Is it high in your chest or low in your abdomen. Allow yourself to breathe naturally, and then gently, gently, attempt to slow your breathe, making it quiet, and breathing with you abdomen. Your chest should rise a slight amount but almost not at all. Breathe with your diaphragm, with your belly. The belly should fill with the in breathe. It should fall with the out breathe. Breathe with your mouth closed. If at first you feel some "air hunger" this is a good thing -- in fact it is the very cure, but we will get to that later. Don't make your self panicky; if you need to take a deep breathe, then do so. But gradually, gradually, patiently and persistently, attempt to reduce the volume of air you are breathing. Do this for ten minutes. See you how you feel. Please reply to this forum with what happened and I wil try and get back to you. Will
bob71029 will71922
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josephine_30311 will71922
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It's a vicous circle. You can't get that deep, satisfying breath, so you keep trying and trying to get it and your lungs become 'saturated' because you're breathing too deeply and too much!
I had this problem for years, it drove me nuts!
Just calm down, beath from your belly .. and follow Wills advice.
It WORKS.
bob71029 josephine_30311
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molly63585 will71922
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kristen61634 will71922
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Just curious how you found out about this technique?? And how were you coping before?
J.elizabeth bob71029
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I just joined the group. I live in Phoenix AZ and I've had this problem for 4months. It is becoming very obtrusive to my life. I do think mine is anxiety related. I also feel crazy and scared. It seems to get worse when I exert myself. I am going to try the breathing techniques that Will mentioned above. I'll post my results. I'm glad I found this site. It's nice to know I'm not alone.
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heather34702 will71922
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meljohn heather34702
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Over the past week, I feel almost total relief. Before, I was yawning every few minutes to try to get more air. But that was counterproductive. I replied to another post about chronic hyperventilation. I think that's what we're suffering from, so we need to re-train our bodies how to breathe correctly again. Although it feels like we're not getting enough oxygen, we're actually getting too much, and yawning to get those full satisfying breaths only exacerbates our problem. Try long, shallow breathing through your mouth and see if it helps. I was also prescribed Xanax and Zoloft, but it worked for me most of the time.
anurag4496 will71922
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andrew37130 will71922
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sharkgirl will71922
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djfordz will71922
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tomyevsi will71922
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I've even been admitted in the hospital, I felt crazy!!
I am goig to try your method but I have to ask..how can I do this when I'm an athete? I lift heavy and breath heavy when I do sports and I'm afraid I will need to give up sports for that?
Can you give your insight?
holly94518 will71922
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Thanks Holly
BelG will71922
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grace00282 will71922
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Thank you SO much for posting this. This weird breathing thing just started happening to me this past week, but I tried the technique you described and it worked immediately. I had no idea a complete stranger on the internet could give me this much relief! There's a lot of things going on in my life right now, but I didn't even realize how stressed out I was until I read this. I just started bawling (in a good way). Everything you said was exactly what I needed to hear right in this moment, and I just had to say thank you for taking the time to post this!
Grace
cee11364 will71922
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God Bless.
BinkyPoodle will71922
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jasmine05821 will71922
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Thanks again will
sherri23988 will71922
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Sherri
Christopher2788 will71922
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First I want to say THANK YOU! For taking the time and sharing your experience with everyone. I have been dealing with this for sometime. An was horrified to research it. I thought that if I had tryed to research my systems, it was going to to tell me something like ( cancer, diabetes, etc) An make everything worse. An I did not want to go to the doctors because never have they ever taken the time to listen and do the work to help treat a common cold. It's always a pill that solves everything and I refuse to be put on pills for the rest of my life. But today I finally built up the nerve and typed in my symptoms and found this page. As I started reading all the comments before yours I could literally relate to them all. Then I reached yours. An what a blessing it was.Number one I feel better just knowing that other people have this and I'm not crazy. I had talked to people in the past and they act like it's in my head etc. I have been watching as many youtube videos that I can find on Buteyko. I even looked for a treatment center like you recomended but couldnt seem to find any here in Chile. But the information i'm finding online is really helping.I have only been breathing through my nose since I found your comment and boy do I already feel better! I hope you feel amazing knowing that your advice really helped alot of people. I even went throught this long process of making this screename on this site just to let you know how much I appreaciated your response on here. Thank again so much. I'm so happy knowing I can take control of my life again and stop dealing with.
Thank you thank you thank!
Christopher
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james_03931 bob71029
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allan1874 heather34702
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Heather try taking a anti allergy tablet such as piriton, I'm not sure how or why it works but it allows me to complete that deep breath. It's cheap and effective
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scott48139 will71922
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Hi Will.
I've been having this problem the past week. It's terrible. My Dr put me on Paxil (which I haven't taken yet.) It's such an awful feeling. I'm still exercising everyday.
This breathing technique sounds good. Any more info on it? Please help.
Scott
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neeta07978 will71922
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Thank you very much Will I've been in the same situation for several years. I've tried the Buteyko method it does work.
But it's just the matter of staying positive n forced n training yourself daily I hope I will get better soon.
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julie57195 will71922
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Thank you so much for your post! I have been suffering with this for years. This make sense! I was totally trying to take deeper breaths, and going on walks and taking deep breaths through my mouth. The worse thing is that I feel like my brain cells are deprived of oxygen and I can't think or remember things anymore! I have tried so many things. I am in tears thinking that I have found a solution. I tried what you said just in the past 10 minutes sitting at my computer at my desk and the desire to take a deep breath has already decreased. I am hoping this works and am so thankful to you! I also have sleep apnea and am hoping this helps.
breathingtolive will71922
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Your suggestion has given me back my sanity. I was beginning to go mad with my inability to take a full breath. By practicing controlled shallow breathing for just a few mintues I am nowable to take a full breath.
I had gone for over 5 days of sleepless nights because of this. And I was beginning to lose my enthusiasim for even living.
Now everthing seems rosy again.
You have saved and helped numerous people with your suggestion and time taken to post. Wish you the very best in your life. You have already done what I hope to do - help people at their neediest moments.
will71922 julie57195
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Hey Julie, no problem, I'm glad it has helped! I too found someone's post on a similar forum, and I was blown away by how easy it is too fix this. I am so happy now. I was at the point a few years ago where I literally thought I had lost my mind. But, this does absoloutely work. And, it is a great idea IMO to reduce your breathing at every opportunity -- for example, sitting at your desk like you mentioned. The problem has completely vanished for me. I am able to consistently run 7-8 miles a day now. Completely throught my nose. I don't open my mouth once. I went jogging with a buddy of mine from High School recently. I consider him to be the fittest guy I know. Lots of martial arts, weight lifting, etc. Always active. After we had gone a few miles, he stopped and said. "Damn man, you're not even out of breath!" Of course he was right; I hadn't even noticed. The beautiful thing with this is that you really can't get out of breath if you are only breathing through your nose. I felt like I wanted to cry too haha, I was so happy.
I have read so much about this in the past year. There are so, so many examples of why this works. Its so great. I just read this piece of writing from 100 or more years ago. This explorer went down to South America and found that the tribes people in some rural area had far, far less incidence of sickness and depression. He was surprised to find that none of the people breathed throught their mouths. They all only breathed through their noses. When babies would open their mouths while they slept, their mothers would come by and close their mouths for them.
I also just read an article by an Budhist monk. He signed up for a bourse in Buteyko, and even though he had already spent years paying attention to his breath, once he learned to also reduce the volume of air as well, he noticed a substantil reduction in useless thinking and anxiety. So cool.
I also experienced some of the "cleansing reactions" which are baffling at first but so important. You might google this is you havent heard of them. The Buteyko experts can provide a much better description than I. So happy you are feeling better.
will71922 breathingtolive
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I wish you the very best in life too.
aubri64656 will71922
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This is so fascinating. I can't wait to try it I really hope that it will work for me. I've had this problem off and on ever since I was 3 years old. I remember feeling like I could never get enough air waiting to go in to dance class. And I've always thought it came from stress or anxiety or eating too close to bedtime. But the problem comes mostly when I'm working on something stressful or when I'm trying to fall asleep (that's what brought me here tonight) the terrible thing is when I can breathe normally and think I've got it under control, I'll hear my neighbors make a loud sound, or see car lights flash through my window and my chest is all tight and it's all gone to hell again. I just need tl breathe that's what I always say to myself. I'm eager to try this method.
Thanks for sharing!
shauntel_Cosper Shirl1419
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Thank you for posting this. I've had the same problem for about a week now and have slept NONE, I was scared I wouldn't be able to breath right during my sleep, I feel so much better knowing I'm not the only one that has felt like this! I will be trying this method immediately. Thank you again for taking the time to post.
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Yes, I know this is such a maddening thing. I never would have dreamed I would be going through such a bizzare condition. All the doctors put me through a rigamarole of tests, and they come back fine. "It's anxiety they say, calm down, it's all in your head." We it just may be in my head but that's no sweet consolation when you feel like you can't breath. It's so bad for me that my cardo. doctor wants to put me on short term dissability until we can figure out a soulution or something for me to deal and live with this better. I wish they had support groups for this like they have with AA/ AND NA. You know those meetings. I feel so, so, lost and depressed. I look around me and everyone seems so normal, and here I am like a freak taking these deep breaths all day long. Again, nothing short of maddening. I'm in central Jersey.
eric1990 bob71029
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Yes It's horrible may I ask do you ever have moments where you are distracted and your are breathing fine? I believe it's anxiety for me because when I do get distracted I breath perfectly normal. I am in north jersey
bob71029 eric1990
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Yes, there are times when I do breathe fine and I notice I may be focused on something. But the moment I realize this, I go right back into that vicious circle of taking deep breaths. I do believe it has a lot to do with the mind, how we think, and of course it's all a result of anxiety. I never EVER used to be like this. How, where, or why this is happening I have no idea.
iKoshee bob71029
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Also notice how it appears when you wake up. You don't have this issue when you sleep it only affect us as soon as we start thinking about it. In the morning catch yourself that everything was fine before forst thought, after that you have shortness of breath whyle you're noticing it. I have it for over 10 years now, and I just start realizing that I didn't had it when i was not thinking about. Because it affecting me when I think about, i think I have it all the time.
emyers12 will71922
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I have never commented on a forum before. I've never even registered for one. I went out of my way to do both for the first time to thank you for opening my eyes to this practice. It's been an hour, maybe two, since I read your comments and researched the Buteyko Method. It's not easy and it was absolutely uncomfortable just like you mentioned it may be- but oh my goodness I cannot believe how different I already feel. The videos are fantastic; the speaker explains hyperventilation at a cellular level and being able to finally understand a possible etiology for this discomfort I've felt off and on for years is incredible-- eye opening to say the very least.
Thank you, thank you, thank you.
chami7 will71922
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after using Buteyko method, can you now take deep breaths anytime you want? as i have having this for about 4 months now i can manage without deep breaths, but i'd like to return to my old self,i miss my deep breaths, so after doing buteyko method does deep breathing issue completly vanish?
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ANNA0812 will71922
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Can you read my symptoms please and tell me if mine sounds like yours. Thank you.
I am 32 years old and have these spells where I cant take a deep
breath in. It is very uncomfortable to know I cant reach the satisfaction I need to get a full breath. I am about 70lbs over weight, however, before i got these spells, my activity level was fine and i didnt have any other issue.. (So it's not a weight issue.) Also, in the past have had a few panic attacks. So severe at times i had to stop working and going to school. When i had those attacks, it wasnt the same as the trouble breathing i have now... however, the breathing issue did throw me into panic attack once.. it was so bad i cried and shook because I could barely breath....I also experience chest pain once in a while when this happens, seems to be in the middle of my back. Hard to tell if it's from straining to breathe, lungs, or heart. But this dont happen everytime. And if I have a "good day" when my breathing is full and deep, it still feels like their is a fist in my back. It seems that caffiene gives me panic attacks, and if i drink to much alcohol i feel very sob also. If i eat too much and become full, this also makes my breathing worsen. However, if i eat, that also helps the sob on occasion.. so confusing. I have had about 3 of these spells. Once when I was about 23, 31, and now 32. When it happens, it lasts for like a month or two. It is very uncomfortable. Its like my chest wont allow me to take deep breaths. I can get one in once in a while but rarely. I also have trouble sneezing and yawning due to this. Seems to be ok when laying down. But trying to walk very far, even getting dressed is a task. It is waaaaay worse when showering. I almost hyperventilate in the bath. It is ruining my life. I do have afib.... i really dont think it is that. If i dont think about the breathing it is ok usually. I try to occupy myself to take my mind off of it. I have been to the doctor 3 times. He has no idea. Says could be afib....asthma....stress..... and the hospital said maybe acid reflux... all my xrays and heart evals looked fine...besides mild afib..Sometimes i wonder if im just freaking myself out.... but sometimes it's as real as day. I use albuterol nebulizer every 4 hours. It helps a lot but not 4 long. I also use mucinex nose spray. This is so scary and making my life difficult. Please if anyone has answers let me know. Thank you.
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Elle457 cmrrmc
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Did you ever find a solution and at every you symptom free now?
Elle457 cssgregg1
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How are your symptoms now? Mine are getting worse and just can’t take it anymore! I’m
Starting a buteyko course next week and just wondering if you had any luck with it?