Feel Like No One Believes Me :(

I wish my doctor was as brilliant as yours....I suspect I've all but worn out my welcome at his office....my ob/gyn has been a bit more understanding.....she started me on low-dose birth control pills to see if they'd help with any of the symptoms...so far, I've not seen any improvement, but it's only been a couple of months, so maybe they just haven't started working yet....I did have one of my ovaries removed about five years ago, because my doctor thought it looked a bit "off" (she noticed it when she was performing my tubal ligation).....could that be making my symptoms worse? I'm just about at the end of my tether....haven't even managed to get out of bed today

Hi Marlene yes I had 2 blood tests along with other tests cause I thought I was dying. They checked for everything.  I thought it must be my thyroid too. I am going to change my name to Sahara  

Hi Marlene....yup, I've had my thyroid checked as part of a very comprehensive set of blood tests within the last two weeks....like every other test I've had during the last eighteen months, everything came back well within normal limits (my doctor joked and said he should give me a gold star for having such good results)....which should make me feel better, but I'm only more depressed now....not that I wanted him to find anything horribly wrong, I'd just like some sort of plausible explanation for what's going on....the up and down days are making me feel as though I'm quite literally losing my mind.....yesterday was okay, managed a longish walk, had good energy, told my boyfriend that I actually felt human.....then today, right back to feeling as though I wasn't going to make it through the day.....I'm just so exhausted from this roller coaster ride, and I can't seem to find anyone who can help....the doctors and psychiatrists just want me to take SSRIs, but I've tried that route, and it only made me feel worse....I know it will pass, but I'm just not sure how to remain upbeat and positive in the meantime......

Hi wearkitty

Sorry ur feeling like this, thats peri for u, had almost 10 years of it hun, long old road, have you thought about Maca, B6 150mg daily that helps ,,

Jayxx

Hey Marlene it's very frustrating. Up one day and down on the couch the next like a damn yoyo.  I do everything possible on good days which are far and few between cause I do nothing on down days but chat but that's fun  I'm just on multi vitamins, drinking water, eating soy and lotsa fruit and walking everyday with my Faith.  We will see how that goes dear.  The B pills were making me dizzier than usual.  . Natural is the best but you have to change your lifestyle and that's brutal.  It's gonna take time.  Uugghh! 

Hi Vanessa

me too had 10 years of peri, natural route, i am just age 50 been a long long road, I started taking B6 Vanessa 150mg a day, I too was at witts end then, been taking it since April, along with other things, and it really made life more normal for me..  have you tried it .. Jay xx

hello Jay, I am taking multi vitamins, which include the B vitamins, I tried magnesium, but my off balance seemed much worse, so i stopped that. I drink plenty of water, no alchohol, try to control stress levels, its so hard to feel happy on the days that i feel ok, because i know it wont last  At my lowest I re read all these posts and many others, because my friends dont understand, but i know every one here is on my wave length. that alone makes me feel heaps better. I am happy that you are feeling more normal van x

Hi Van

no i dont drink alcohol ... I am the boring one to others but who cares ..😃

i just want to feel better not worse.. 

your vit B you take .. does it have a B6 in it 100mg or better still 150mg for peri, B6 specifically is the good one ... and B12 .... Jay xx

Hi Jay, on the box it say 10 mg of b6, maybe not enough. You started this road very young, I am 57, but I feel much older some days. Who cares if we are boring non drinkers, like you I just want to be healthy and happy. 10 years is such a chunk out of our lives, but one day we will be happy bunnies again, soon I hope x

HiVanessa 

i was 40-41 when i started peri, just age 50 now.. pleased really as in 10 days I am one year no periods so maybe thats it ... just the post meno to deal with then, so will be much the same as now i suppose..

my mother now 83 started her peri at age just 42 and done and dusted at age 44 ( natural route too) so I was not as lucky as her... but never the less this is normal and natural and happens to us all, i have two grown up kids so now  feel liberated and proud I got through it all natural, and its done at 50 .... keep positive it helps alot ... Jay xx

Hi Vanessa, your story sounds very much like mine. I'd been having some dizziness for a few years and then got vertigo - horrible. Since then I've struggled with dizziness, two more vertigo episodes and fuzzy head, head pain, neck pain .... The list goes on. I don't know what the answer is but I am doing my utmost to find out. All tests including MRI have come back normal so I keep looking. So frustrating as you know.  I also get so sad at not being able to do what others can. The only way I have found is to keep looking and trying to find something that will help. Lots of avenues to be explored and it helps you to keep focused and more positive. I wish I had the answer for you- if you find it first let me know😉. I'll keep you updated. In the meantime I wish you well. Xx

Hello mooma, its such a relief to know many women experience these awful symptoms, but I would not wish this on anyone, I feel very sad for all of us, its totally changed our lives. I had my last period 5 years ago, and the last 3 years have been very tough, on the odd day I feel ok, I walk and feel a different person, then next day I can barely walk around the house.my neck and shoulders are so tight and painful, legs feel trembly and weak, head is heavy, like its full of concrete, insomnia for years, I could go on.I am sorry you are also suffering, this is no picnic, I long for the day I feel my old happy self. I hope today is an ok day for you and everyone on here, hugs to you all

Hi Vanessa....I'm so sorry to read about your struggles, and completely understand how sad and frustrated you're feeling....it's very discouraging to look back on the people we were and compare that to where we are today....I also find myself holding onto the walls in the shower and feeling as though my legs are made of jelly....of course, no one can see them shaking, but I can absolutely feel them trembling....and of course all of these physical symptoms had me convinced that I had MS or ALS or Parkinson's or a brain tumor or heart disease....you name it, I've thought I had it....but all of the tests come back negative, so I'm left with my choice of perimenopause or anxiety (which is what my GP believes I have)....he tried to prescribe citalopram, but I couldn't tolerate the side effects, so we agreed I'd stop....he gave me lorazepam to use if/when the anxiety gets unbearable, but I don't like to take it....and the only reason I feel anxious is because I have all of these crazy symptoms....it's quite a vicious circle, isn't it?

The Dr thinks mine us anxiety and has tried to get me to do CBT, which I do get, but like you if I didn't get the pain and dizziness I wouldn't be anxious. So frustrating

I did a course of CBT last summer and it helped a bit, but I'm still left with these horrible physical symptoms and none of the coping techniques I leaned from CBT seem to help....maddening

Hello kitty, thankyou for your kind words, it really helps to know how others are feeling and coping. Its easy for doctors to tell us its anxiety, but I believe the meno symptoms are causing our anxiety, we are all so focused on our health and finding ways to help us cope with every day. I have the odd good day, but I wish they would outnumber the bad, it would be so much easier to manage then. My balance is the thing that I worry about constantly, and my wobbly weak legs, the trembly shaky feeling, its horrible, I just want to wake up one morning and feel 100%. I am sorry that you are also suffering in this way too, and I hope that tomorrow will be a good day for us. I have given up on my doctor, he looks at me like I am making it all up, I get all my support from everyone on sites like this, because we all understand how this is affecting our day to day lives.a big hug to you kitty and all you lovely ladies here xx

I so understand what you're going through....I've had the horrible shaky/trembling feeling all day today....my pulse feels elevated, but it's been between 68 and 72 bpm all day long (I've checked it a bunch of times)....the best way I can describe it is that it feels as though I've had fifteen cups of coffee and I've had none (no caffeine at all for me...ever!)....wobbly, weak-feeling legs in the shower this morning, felt as though the floor has been tilting under me all day (worse when I'm standing still...go figure!)....it's all so frustrating.

I hope that you (and the others on the forum) have had a good day....we'll get through this!

Hello kitty, I feel so sad for you that you have had a yukky day, had many of them myself. Earlier this year I had horrible adrenaline surges which left me shaking and trembly for days, I felt like I was having a stroke or something. This is all very scary, hormones affect everything, they are running the show.I have to lie down when I have a head surge, a wave of panic is the best way I can describe it, horrible stuff.the internal tremor is hard to handle, l also cut out caffeine, no alcohol and try to remain positive that it will pass. It does help tremendously to talk to someone else experiencing the same things.I have 3 older sisters and none of them experienced these symptoms, guess I am the lucky one, not that I would wish this on any of them.going to attempt a short walk this morning, but I will come back exhausted, but its meant to help.even feeling half better than this would be huge for me, and I bet you agree with me on that. A big hug to you kitty x

Vanessa, I seem to get those surges at night. I think it is to do with low blood sugar during the night. I have started eating' clean' and little and often, and having an oatcake before bed and it seems to have helped. Xx

Hi Ladies

i tell you what i use to have in my handbag.. 

a bag of almonds, the natural ones with brown skins on, brill for a boost and full of protein.. And not fattening ...

it was for those oh no need something now, i feel shaky moments ...

work a treat..

Jay xx

 

I love almonds. Eat them every day with an apple. Xx😉

Hello ladies, I hope you are all having an ok weekend. My head is having a wobbly day, do any of you get the feeling like someone has just pushed you, and for a second you feel like you will fall, only way I can describe it, like a sudden jolt. I wish my hormones would decide to go on a break, I so want to feel normal again. We will all get through this together xx

OMG!!! Yes Vanessa!!!! You are so not alone.  Your wording is perfect.... I've tried to explain this to my family and close friends and they look at me like I'm losing it!!! Scary stuff but so many feel the exact same on this site and what a relief to know that you are not alone!  I gave up work 2 years ago due to my symptoms as I could no longer make excuses. 😔 ( male orientated ). I would love to work again I have always worked and miss it so much and miss earning my own money.  I never know from one day to the next when these sensations and flushes and spaced out feeling will kick in it's horrible and it stops me from doing so much!! I cannot commit to anything on fear of letting friends and family down again because of them.  Hope you have a better day tomorrow lovely sending huge hugs xxxx💓

Yupper Travis I am with you  

Me too. So frustrating

Hi Vanessa

i agree with Trevis

perfectly described that was.... 

like a after punched - stunned - where am i sort of feeling..

it does pass .... honest 😃

Jay xx

Hi trevis, so glad im not the only one who gets sudden jolts, not tried to explain that to my doctor, he already thinks im nuts, an attention seeker. I live near hills and I would love to go out walking every day, but my head and legs make walking such hard work, so much concentration to stay looking normal to others.then anxiety creeps up on me, and I find getting to my front door a matter of urgency. Sometimes a simple food shop with my husband is too much, and I stay in the car. I feel so sorry for all of us that we can't live our lives to the full, meno just saps it all out of us. Much love to everyone here x

I get those jolts too! I thought I was bonkers. Can't explain it. I too would love to have long walks. I've been told to up my exercise but it's so hard to walk normally with the dizziness. I totally get what you're saying. Xxx

Hi jay, I love this site, everyone responds, that is so helpful to us all. I never gave menopause a thought years ago, apart from expecting a few hot flushes, I certainly did not expect it to take over my life like this, planning each day as it comes, because I never know if I am going to have a normal few hours or not. I have to say they dont happen nearly enough for me, so like the rest of you I struggle through these days, and try and remain positive that it will pass soon. A big hug to to x

Vanessa I too sit in the car!!! I can't do shops either and I love to shop. I manage Argos cause they have seats.  I live in Scotland and such beautiful scenery and would love to walk my dog like I use to do but won't as I also  lost my balance while out with my dog over 18 months ago and anxiety kicked in and I somehow staggered home god knows what peopleust have thought I have never been out on my own since it scared the life out of me. 😔..... My life at the moment is spent at home & garden it's awful considering I was independent a couple of years ago.  I told my doc.... It's like some one pushes me!... I'll never forget the look on her face and therefore will never mention it again to her, in fact I probably will never go back! And so it continues.... Will I ever get back to normal? Whatever normal is!.... Thank you for your message it's good to know someone is reading it lol!!! It gives me a wee bit of hope in that  I too am not alone.  Huge hugs to you. Xx

I hate Mondays!! It's just a reminder of another week on theife of Nightmare menopause!  All I want to do is to be able to work without letting people down.  I can't believe how much all this has changed my ice and turned me into absolutely nothing!! 😢 xx it's so unfair.  My children have watched me go from being totally independent and confident to sitting at home every day I feel terrible a out that in it's self. X

Hi Trevis

i hate Mondays too 😦 ... partner just gone again back to work overseas, wont see him again for 3-4 weeks 😕

got a Gyno appt this evening and got smear, ultra sound etc, hope that goes okay, not been to this clinic before 😳 we shall see... I dont have alot of faith in health professionals, ' all the gear and no IDEA' 

Trevis it does get better hun...  i had all this .... still get a blip from time to time, but mainly okay, energy up.. thanks to my Vits etc... B6 and B12 are such energy boosters and seem to level you out and make you feel so much better...  been peri 10 years hun and in my experience its gets better, and i am almost a year no periods now ' i still dont like Mondays though'  Jay xx

 

Thank you lovely xx... My periods stopped when I was 46 and I'm now 52... I started B6 two weeks ago ... How much B12 should I take and do I need to run it past Doc first? What does B12 help with?  The sun is shining today that's a bonus lol!!! Where abouts are you Jayneejay if you don't mind me asking xx😊

Hi Trevis

try Jarrows B12 5000mcg in red labelled bottle, these are the better ones, one a day in morning, cherry flavour, chewable... 

B12 doesnt harm you and what you dont need you pass via urine.. cant love with out mine... i have injections every 10-14 days... wow bucks me up a good one... even playing golf again 😀

i will post some B12 benefits in a min for you..

even Celebs have it for energy .. ie. Madonna, Cowell, etc etc 

I live near Marbella Trevis, Southern Spain .. ( Malaga region) 

Jay xx

 

Trevis   look at Jarrows methyl 5000mcg red label, amazon etc 

B12 info ..

useful info .... 

Mild Symptoms

Fatigue, weakness and pale skin may be the first signs of a vitamin B12 deficiency. You may notice cracked lips or a ringing in the ears, and you might experience a loss of appetite or an altered sense of taste that causes food to taste funny or odd. Alternating bouts of diarrhea and constipation are common, and some people may become dizzy when standing up. Fever or abdominal pain may also be present, Peri menopause / Menopause loss of energy B12 is a boost for the body..

Mental Effects

A vitamin B12 deficiency can cause an altered mental state in severe cases. Advanced stages of a severe vitamin B12 deficiency can cause a state of confusion. Mild to moderate depression is a common symptom, but severe depression can also be the result of a deficiency.

Other Symptoms

According to Harvard Medical Publications, other symptoms may include a tingling sensation in the hands or feet, a stinging or burning sensation on the tongue, a bright red tongue, significant weight loss, yellowing of the skin and a rapid heart rate. It can also cause you to feel off balance or disoriented, which may worsen in darkness. Some people may lose the ability to tell the colors yellow and blue apart. You may be unable to feel vibrations in your feet or legs. Anemia may develop ..

For an individual experiencing menopause, * loss of energy may become a major part of life. B12 vitamins menopause symptoms can help alleviate this loss of energy.

These vitamins for menopause can help restore lost energy and create an energy level that has never before been achieved by the individual. B12 vitamins can provide a new lease on life with the power to restore energy through the simple answer of taking a vitamin.

For an individual suffering from the onset of this stage of life, seeking nutrients like B12 and other minerals can help provide relief from the many symptoms. The nervous system is another area of the body and health that is positively affected by B12 vitamins. 

Jay xx 

I'm so relieved to hear that I'm not the only one who struggles with shops...up until eighteen months ago, I loved to shop (probably too much!) and I definitely preferred to shop by myself....now, it's a real challenge to go into the supermarket for even a few items....I get dizzy and my legs start to shake and I get a warm flush...this is the part of peri I find the mist frustrating, the total loss of independence....my poor kids don't know what to make of the "new me", and I feel horrible for them....I don't even recognize myself anymore. I woke up crying again this morning, because I could feel all the symptoms starting up again....still have my period (over a week now), and that's upsetting me as well....I am so very glad that I found this forum....my "real" life feels so lonely sometimes, as no one I know can understand what I'm feeling....especially not my doctors!  Hang in there, ladies....it has to get better, right?? Hugs to all.....

Hi weary

oh bless you with the emotions, its not nice, but... at least all your tests were good and you know its nothing else..

emotions are up and down during peri... mine were too, even more when my periods actually stopped for the first six months of none.. blimey i use to cry at the drop of a hat... and anxiety from no where, but the B6 sorted that out for me..

my partner been home for a long weekend he works overseas, we had a lovely weekend, and i felt abit sad he was leaving this morning and wont see him again for weeks, but... i surprised myself and managed to contain the emotions quite well, still feel abit lost as need to re adjust again to the silence of the house...  but what i am trying to say.... it gets better hun... a few months ago when he left, i use to sob for hours 😥

Jay xx

I honestly don't know how you do it, Jay....it's become so bad for me that the thought of being home alone for a few hours turns me into a nervous wreck....and I'm a person who used to crave having the house to herself....it's as though I'm not even the same person anymore. I can't even imagine being on my own for weeks at a time....I admire you.

Hi Wearykitty

you will be your old self again, you really will..

this is the thing, being alone, no choice in the matter, actually made me have a word with myself and crack on, at first i was a hermit, living in a foreign country the anxiety got worse thinking of going out alone shopping etc, but i thought well if I dont,  life is going to be very depressing, so little by little i just did it, in April i sort of sat and thought about it and thought this has to change, so slowly i did it... dont get me wrong it is very quiet in the house etc, but its the way it has to be, so i suppose when it has to be you just accept it maybe..

Jay xx 

Hey Jay your so spot on ,I'm like that avoid shopping when this Gyne anxiety about  so I tend to shop in the evenings when no queues to wade through get the old tum / Gyne gitters,brain says hey it's b......y hormones,but hard to release that anxiety we get.,sounds off the wall to females who don't get the meno anxiety,lucky them I think ,as it's a crippler,of beast,same if on your own and anxiety is around.hence why so many women put on meds for it,all a waiting game,you'd starve if your on your own,so you had to toughen up to it,can't have been easy.were in it but it's getting out of it full stop and move on,will I get up one morning and it's gone as it did 1st time around I got anxiety menopause,I but live in daily hope.

   Let's know how this evening went Jay,be over and done in a flash SORTED xx

Hi Marlene

thank you 

i will let you know later... my appointment at 6pm here..

i have a ultra sound, a colposcopy, smear, be walking like John Wayne when i leave, and a breast exam 

i am not bothered or anxious, i am fine, these things have to be done..

😀

Jayxx

 

 

Hi jay, your right, being on your own does force you into doing things, however hard it is. I totally rely on everyone, but I really want to be independent again. It seems such a boring thing to say that I miss food shopping on my own, but I really do. Life is very lonely at times, and like all of you I want my life back, and yes...I hate mondays too, the start of another long week .......van x

Hi trevis, I also stopped my periods 5 years ago, have had all these symptoms for 10 years, please go away soon, I say every day. Which area of scotland do you live, been there a few times, very beautiful. You sound like I do, home and garden, its tough isn, t it. Very hard watching people carrying on their lives doing things, I am very envious of them. Its sunny here, on the south coast of england, would love a walk, but the garden is all I can manage today......vanessa x

Hey Vanessa is it our south coast air,I'm down in Dorset, yea it's sunny where am I but indoors.,I see other women in this age time,and think are you having a c.....p of a day to.Wouldnt know to look at them,maybe there thinking same as me.i do see them looking at the Hormone stuff at local chemist quite regularly.then ones looking at the Vits shelf.

    Yes another week of just getting by.

I know exactly how you feel. I am just the same. My last period was 11 weeks ago and I feel particularly rubbish at the moment. I feel dizzy and off balance, having to look at the floor when I walk in case I trip up! I'm always hot and stress levels are high. Xx

Hi marlene, dorset is beautiful, have walked the coast path.I find myself looking at other women and wonder if they also having similar problems.Its a great help to talk on here to you and everyone else,its tremendous support to us all, we all have doctors who can't help, friends who dont understand, so this is a real boost to know we are not alone ...a big hug to you xI

Hi Vanessa! I'm in Argyll it's very beautiful.  Just brilliant to talk to you 😊... Yes I think, thinking back it was when I was around 43 when I first noticed changes in myself but would never have thought menopause!! Never new much about it only that periods would get less and possibly hit flushing! My god his wrong could I be. Now I have educated myself more on it as no one not even the doctors have an understanding if symptoms it's crazy and sometimes very lonely, I do have a fantastic husband so more than many 💓.  Iast year I was at my worst as I think I had struggled for so long and eventually it all came tumbling down.  Doc was. Doc was very understanding but was not knowledgable I know more than her now!  This forum is amazing and has been a godsend for me it truly has.  More and more women are trying tounderstand what's   happening to them and it really needs to be brought out so that we don't spend years of struggle and misery thinking we are going mad or even dying.  The anxiety and flushing is my worst enemy and also fgs sheer tiredness I really find it hard not having emery when I want to get on it's very very frustrating.  When I do find the energy I end up my whole body aching as if I have just done 10 rounds kickboxing! I miss that too!! I miss everything! ThZnk you for listening it means the world that you hot back to me ... Thank you ⭐️💜xx

Hi trevis, we stayed at a house overlooking the water at lochgoilhead a few years back, beautiful scenery. This is great being able to talk to you, makes me feel so much better. I am gong to write back to you in the morning, have a relaxing evening, and a good nights sleep x

Aww thank you Vanessa you too! Xx💓

Hey hey Marlene   I have not been on here as much the past couple days I have actually felt like doing something since March rather than being confined to the couch and collecting horroroids.     The B vitamins are finally kicking in.  It is a relief knowing that other women are suffering silently too with this.  I remember seeing women with patches of hair missing and never knew why, thought they had a skin disease...cripes menopause!!  I am  going to get a t-shirt advertising this website!  

Hi again...I started the B vitamins about 10 days ago.  This is my 3rd good day in a row since March. 

Hi Marlene

i am back 😀 wow what a lovely Gyno Man..

he was so nice, i am still speachless, i arrived, filled in a form, then I sat with him and he asked me my history, and wrote it all down, spoke about my meno symptoms and asked me how i found it via natural route, he agreed on the B6 ladies 😀😀😀😀 he was lovely, wanted to know everything, for the last 10 years symptoms, unrushed, then I got a gown on, the nurse came, and he examined all the outer bits and did a three area cervical smear, outer, neck and just inside the cervix, then looked at everything through a colposcope checking cervical cells and the all of the inside..

then.... I had a wand type ultra sound camera inserted and saw all my bits on the three TV screens, showed me my uterine wall and told me it was 4 mm in thickness and thin as it should be, also my non functioning ovaries i saw both and my uterus, all was well and truly menopausal... i was so impressed, he talked me  through everything, showed me everyhting on the screen, measured everything...

then it was breast check time, i thought it was maybe a squeeze and a press  by hand... no no no my breasts were covered in Gel and and a 3D ultra sound of the breast tissue and all around inside wow i was so so impressed.

then i got dressed thinking that was that, but then he asked me back to his room, and explained it all again, and then gave me pictures of everything, all my bits and bobs from the screen, and told me everything was as it should be and normal for menopause and age.. 

he then again asked me if i wanted anything answering or if anything was on my mind i wanted to ask..

what a lovely experience at long last.... a doctor who knows his stuff, a Gyno thats knows how to treat a delicate woman ...

Jay xx

Hi Dottie

yes i noticed your not on here as much... 😥 thought you had got yourself a toy boy to play with 😮

glad you feeling better at the mo, long may it last for you ..

hey... my wonderful Gyno man from heaven, said tonight B6 is very good for us peri ladies .... and asked me if i wanted more ... which i didnt as i get them from the spanish farmacia anyway... the stronger ones 😀

Jay xx

That was a good read Jay,my he was thorough,couldn't have asked for better.think it would pay lots to get private Gyne check up,for you to be able to see everything for yourself on screen .i. Was surprised at the boob check,not how I imagined it at all,so that was good to.

  How good at the end he asked if you had any questions  can you see that happening under NHS,think not,

   So tonight you can sleep easy knowing all is as it should be,did he say you should. Get these checks at certain times in the future.

   Like you said he certainly knew his stuff need more like him,was he Spanish or English,tell me Spanish .

  All the young on this site starting menopause how daunting it feels,at least I knew my first time as to what this was now.dr just don't check up on no one for this stuff,you done right thing Jay,any queries you had dr there to answer them.what we all want end of the day delicate women right words Jay. XX

Hi Marlene

i am still very amazed about it... what a lovely man..

he is Spanish .... spoke English too..

and... all that ......   and i never had any discomfort... none... 

and still havent, all that was Private... a real well woman exam..

the 3D breast check is quite the thing here, very good, it shows you all around and in the breast tissue.... he said all was fine, he showed me the usual fatty areas which are expected in menopause and the usual cysty areas... which are normal... it took a little while he was very thorough, i explained i had scar tissue due to a breast uplift and he checked that and showed me it, said it was just scar tissue and nothing else that i should worry about..

he said to do pelvic floor exercises keep all firm and taught up there... as menopause can start to cause the uterus relaxing and some woman begin to prolapse ... ' how wonderful was he' 

all that 1.5 hours was just 150€ ... (approx £125 GBP) 

amazing..

he will email me smear results, he said they will be fine as he saw all looked normal through the colposcope, and i saw it too 😀

never had such a nice calming, reassuring and professional check up like this ever ....... he knew his stuff, and was a man and was so understanding.

respected my choice that HRT not wanted, praised me for the natural choice and resoected that, but also said if things ever changed or got too bad or i needed to reconsider some estrogen then I could go back, he talked me through my insomnia too... totally listened and also mentioned all the other symptoms we all talk about... wow .... what a man..

this is an annual check,  so feel content i have someone i can finally trust and understands me ..

Jay xx

Hi Marlene

one thing is for sure..

if you need peri or menopause help..

see a Gynaecologist ... not a GP...

Jay xx

 

Hi Marlene

i am just smiling as I just been messaging my daughter about it on ipad message  ... telling her about all the images I have hahahaha

its her birthday on Thursday shes 24..

i said I have sent you a personalised birthday card with a picture of my non functioning ovaries on it ... 😀😀😀😃  we did laugh...

wow even that, he showed me my ovaries, said he could see they were in menopause ' none functioning' no follicles ....

said they will get smaller the deeper in full menopause i get..

showed me the uterine lining and said that will get alot thinner yet..

even measured it said it was 4mm .... 

amazing isnt it... 

Jay xx

 

Send him over here pleeeese!!! X

My daughter would have found it hilarious to Jay,she's got that sense of humour,your girl will be in fits for days.

Least Jay she knows mums okay,think I've got that thinning going on,hence why I get the anxiety from there,not comfortable,checked out 3 times,I was like that when I hit the meno at 48,I've got 2 cousins  64 and 68 still got the menopause both complaining of what I am,one told by a dr to wear a sanitary towel for comfort,can you believe it,she told dr I'm not B.......y incontinent,but still menopausal,we still sit in my kitchen and tears come down our faces Jay we laughed so hard.,honest best her dr could suggest to ease they discomfort.What's with these Drs out there. 

 It's amazing what they told you,let alone see it,here they want you to pay private ,think that's why women get fobbed off like we do,so you take matters in your own hands.You framing those pics Hee Hee Mar XX

     P S Dottie would have them blown up framed and on a wall by weekend,

Get in line Trevis oldest first,and it's my birthday soon.i think there should be more well women clinics ,only dealing with menopause. Well worth the money Jay paid in UK cash and instant results,no time wasting like here.

Oh Marlene 

Its good to giggle, my other half went this morning again off to work overseas. So today has kept my mind of that, and you have been a great support and tonic today, thankyou, and snatchpiece Joy thanks to you too Joy ..

Heres another one the Gyno said, he said what do you do to ease the atrophy

 ( dryness) I thought blimey , he misses nothing, today though i thought it best not to use a vaginal moisturiser pod as it may effect my smear, so it must of been one hell dry for him to comment, and bless him he used lots of gel and said do not worry i wont make this uncomfortable for you. Never hurt me at all ...

Another giggle, my son drove me dropped me off and picked me up, i then had an open envelope full of pictures, he said whats that, i said oh... Some meno info to read, he said oh please dont tell me,  then i put them in the passenger door bit, then we went to shopping centre after, he doesnt like discussing lady problems, anyway i thought ' crikey i better not forget that envelopes in his car, if he opens that up he will never look me in the eye again 😊

Anyway ... All was good, and i will get them framed for the bedwomb 😀 wall haha

Nite nite Marlene

Jay xx

Hi Trevis

Better still you all come here and i book you all in ... 

😃

Jay xx

Hi Marlene

I called for an appt last Wed, Friday it was a national spain holiday so all closed clinics etc, and i was offered today monday,

And instant results and pics in your hand.

I paid in Euros 150€ 

Which is equal to approx £125 GBP exchange rate.... Always Euros here...

When i had all this done i thought no way can  this be 150€ i thought maybe i misheard her on phone but no... It was ..

Oh yeah and i took my old blood test results for 2011 and 2012 and he even went through those too 😃

I had a blood sugar borderline blip in 2011 and he talked about that too. But i do the prick test and do monitor it .. Always been okay since.. 

I think i want to marry him 😀

Nite nite Jay xx

Ohhh Marlene dear you know me too well  

Ohhh Jay....we would all come to the wedding      I'd rent a jet ski.

Can't complain at that cost ,be more than that here private.

    Hey Mrs your as good as married,curiosity only as Dottie may want this info,How old was he ?Can see you making an excuse to go for another visit  ,probably married with a tribe of kids Jay,made me giggle with your pics in your lads side door compartment,embarrassed Oh Yes if he'd seen them xx

Hey Dottie  yea can wear a nice hat love hats at weddings,and all confetti we could carry.no wedding without it.

   You'd be on Jet ski Dottie minus me,rest assured  ,my balance wouldn't get on a boat at present,I've got a green leather rocking chair daren't sit in that either oooooooh No. You be good Dottie,but you are a tonic XX

Ohhh Marlene I was going to pick you up on the way to Jays wedding.  I bought a new hat and a strap to strap you onto my jet ski dear and off we'd go......ohhhh by the way I don't drink or smoke.....I'm an all natural nutty gal  

Taking the b vits right now! Also trying rhodiola rosea, supposed to be good for anxiety. Xx

Hi Marlene

i would guess the gyno doc is about 48 years old ... or maybe 50..

such a Gent .... Dottie hahahaha Jet Sky hahahaha

i keep giggling ... i have a vision of you in the ocean on a jet sky coming over to the Med 😀😀😀😀😃

Jay xx

Hi trevis, I hope you have woke up to a good day, meant to ask everyone on here if any suffering with insomnia. I have had this for many years, I just accept it as normal for me now. Like many of the symptoms we all have, day after day, my biggest issue trevis is the balance , it really sets the day out for you, because it limits what you can and can't do.its sunny but cool here today, I shall do short walk, it will do me good , my stick helps me wobble my way along.when you fell out walking trevis, did you pass out, thats always my fear when I am out on my own on the hills.this is a hard time for us all, but great to know we are all together in this battle for to feel normal again. ?..vanessa x

Hi Vanessa

oh insomnia... now then. i have had this for years and certainly all through peri...  it has eased abit though with B6.. B6 & B12 also stopped my wobbly days.

as for insomnia , i discussed this one last night with my Gyno... he said it is very common, and one of the symptoms that takes its toll on the body, as we are shattered.

i was given ages ago Zopiclone but although it works and you sleep like a baby, i dont like to use it unless i am totally shattered.. but I am more relaxed at bed time and not quite as bad these days...

the Gyno suggested if I wanted to try.. 2.5 mg of Diazepam 30 mins before bedtime, and he gave me a box via prescription incase i got so tired that i needed to use in future..   so they are in the cupboard for as and when required... 

he explained during peri and meno the hormones as we all know decline and the body sort of goes in an internal anxious state ... and its that that causes the insomnia ... 

i have always been a light sleeper that doesnt help matters, but insomnia is awful... with me its the actual falling to sleep, then when. and if I do, I wake an hour later look at clock and so on all through the night ..

😩

Jay xx

Hi jay, thats how it is for me, a long time dropping off, short sleep then toss and turn and clock watch all night, never mind how tired I might be, sleep does not come easy, but I dont kip during the day, dont want to jinx my nightime sleep.happy for you and your tests and lovely doctor, something we just dont seem to have here.I hope your having a good day...van x

Hi Vanessa

well i can totally relate to your insomnia..

years ago in my beginning of peri, it was even worse.. i use to get up and get a cook book out and bake a cake 😳

i stopped getting up as I didnt want to get into a habit..

i know a lady who lives near me, and ahes in Meno, and every night she gets out of bed and makes a cheese sandwich 😀😳... well, cheese is the worst thing to eat before bed anyway.. but she says its become a habit and she cant stop... blimey...

i dont normally agree with sleeping tabs etc, but there comes a time, well it did my my case, that i had to have some assistance.. but i only take very rarely... 

i tried the Melatonin but... although it was good and relaxed you .. In my case I had vivid dreams ... so vivid.. Melatonin is suppose to be a natural ..

couldnt believe it when my Gyno gave me Diazepam 2.5 mg a box of, but nice to know they are there if I get overly shattered..

I think abit of help sometimes is good, if we dont kick the ass out of them and become dependant..

i was very impressed the Gyno doc ( oh he was so lovely) didnt treat me like a lunatic and push antidepressants on me... he didnt ... yay... totally listened understood and was lovely...

Jay xx

 

Hi Mrs I can picture Dottie on a Jet ski,as if,even said she'd strap me on one.What she like .

 Well I'm starting on the B12 route,hope like you it gets this 8 year  anxiety cycle gone,never know maybe help with my balance and tinnitus at same fell swoop.Just put a tinnitus sufferer on to Tinnitustalk site,best one I've found for understanding us with tinnitus  mind of info,and they're so clever,at finding stuff  like you Jay for this meno info,they've done there homework,look what you've found out and tried and tested these Vits.all credit to both these sites.and people who truly understand ,lots out there need real help.So anyone with meno tinnitus go look up the site I've mentioned,you won't regret it I promise ,and like this site there a friendly bunch.

  What. plans for you today Jay.? No discomfort over night from MOT.

  You done well,hey he wasn't that old hey.Lucky you ,not an old boy dr,or one your sons age,dr or not having a look. Mar xx 

HI Marlene

oh the tinnitus must be a nightmare...

i get the left side ear always feeling like it needs popping but not tinnitus.

sounds like a good site that one..

i feel fab today, no pain or discomfort at all, dont feel like anything been done... So gentle he was... ( unlike the last Quack)  

today... I am chilling.... i want to watch Judge Rinder 😃 oh that was so funny yesterday.... I love it...

i had a vacuum and done some titivating around the house, had a bath, tied my hair up ( still losing abit ) 😢 put my wrinkle cream on thickly hahaha

got some Clarins Beauty Flash Balm , i am trying it out, feels nice..

i use that uk web Escentual its good site, order a few bits and they ship to Spain... 😃 easy shopping and cheaper than spain and high street..

my fave face cream is a spanish one from the farmacia called Xhekpon its says for Face neck and cleavage 😃😃😃😃

its collagen and aloe vera ... And only 5.90€ ( approx £5.00) 

wow its the best... I see amazon have it too on uk site..

its great for softening the skin it glows and its great.. And soo cheap for what it is... 

Have a great afternoon... I am having a lazy one ... 😃

Jay xx

 

Howdy Marlene, how are you?    I have been putzing and feeling a lot better with all my vitamins.  There may be hope and hope this will be over soon so I can start living again.  It's my 25th wedding Anniversary in November so I hope this is over by then! I wanna do something fun! For now my life is on hold. 

 

Hi Dottie 😀

November... that would be good..  glad you had a good day ..

Dottie... how long have you been in peri so far..

are you still having periods..

I hope you dont go as long as me, 9-10 years.. and still not out the woods yet 😥

Jay xx

Hi Dottie IPad been on charge ,plus been chatting to family today,you know how that goes,catching up.

  I start doing the B12 ,see how I go.give it whirl so they say,nothing to loose,never been on B12.

hey Dottie beat ya on the 25 years I'm 47 yrs next St Patricks day.Yours is good going,got to say.thought this was it  until a virus set it all off again ,so it goes on and on and on.X

Hi Marlene

wondering where you were ... I thought maybe you had gone out to buy a wet suit for the Jet sky 😃😃😃😃😃

i not married ... ( no years) tried it twice and decided i didnt like it..

but it was a day out 😳

been with my sweet man for 8 years though 😍 engaged for 6 years or so

Jay xx

i meant Jet Ski 

dohhhhhhh

marlene

i say nite now, speak soon .. off to bed to stare at the clock now..

almost midnight in España 😀

buenas noches

Jay xx

 

Is it really good the Xhekpon? I have neck crepy-ness which I guess without laser treatment, is for keeps. The cream is expensive on Amazon, but can get 4 for about £20 on ebay from Spain.

 

Hi Naisy

I think this Xhekpon is fab..

i found it by accident in the farmacia and thought i try that..

i spent fortunes in creams in past and this beats them all and very popular here 😀..

Jay xx

 

Hi Jay yea plan to get you married off again hence the Mrs.

  Leave Dottie to Jet Ski,bless her.

  My ears are hissing like crazy,both B.......Y things. Pit alone having that going all day long,without all the rest as well.im bunged up ,eyes heavy,been out in garden hope that gives me sneezes to down it pressure wise.

 No fun at all,all down to menopause ,it's a B.......y curse for us.

    Had good old read up on your findings ( nice one Jay ) written down notes in my meno diary.starting the B 12 ,B6 I've had but has upset me and the IBS so had to for go B6 .Echenachia ? Has same effect on IBS.tried that first winter after that virus. I got.Like walking through a mine field what's fine for one,not happy for another trial and effort,think we've all walked the walk over this meno carry on.Thanks for what. You've done in regards to researching this out Jay. Know it's helping everyone,,as they've had good old read up by there comments. So nice one Mar xxxx

Marlene

have you ever put ear wax remover drops in your ears.. ?

i did this the other week as my left ear is never right and feels poppy all the time..

lets say... it works 😳

also i was having for a while way before i started B6  it wasnt that..

digestive problems ... upset tum and then opposite ...since taking Probiotics all settled, cant believe it ..

Jay xx

 

Hiya had my ears syringed once  last year,had it done due to getting a neck tumor op following week,was told not to use anything else in ears due to having the tinnitus,think my Eustachian tubes get blocked since getting this damn rhinitis,another merry go round ride I'm on daily,then blocked ears bring me daily balance.just give up Jay,done all exercises required  nothing.

   Lots with Tinnitus have same prob as me ,Dottie has it.,but don't recall her mentioning any allergies,she will correct me if wrong,

   I'm on an excellent site for tinnitus. My what they don't know is mind boggling Jay.tinnitustalk clever bunch,want an answer they're get you it,like on here exact same.loads on there have T and balance,fair few are female to odd hey.

 Wondered how many gals on here get BV,and all the other Gyne probs etc

another bowl of contention to put up with and get no help other than from other females or a chemist shop to try remedies / cures out.daily battle all round Jay.you name it were try it.B12 my next port,this week fingers X .

 It's freezing here Jay,not a sun lover as you know but send bit of yours over.

had central heating on past couple of nights  friend in Essex even went to bed with hot water bottle night before last,can you believe it for August ,I'm by the sea ,so the wind off the water not helping chill factor.tell me your out in the heat dare ya XX

oh Marlene

thats awful... Mines annoying and its only a niggle..

i was reading an article about tinnitus and menopause other day.. 

my other half said its cold in Uk hes doing aircraft there at the moment..

its lovely here .. I popped out earlier and got the mail and a warm baguette, filled it with salad .. Cant stop eating grapes and melon they are so good here at the moment ..

its 36 degrees here today, in the shade .. when it cools down I will vacuum the bottom of pool, do it manually tonight ... Gasp ! 

Be in it tomorrow not been in for a few days .....

have a great after noon 

Jay xx

Hi Marlene

i sent you the link via private message

menopause and tinnitus 

it mentions Tinnitus Ginkgo Biloba Extract

Jay xx

Hi Marlene

i will post this part for all ladies as its quite interesting 

Ginkgo extracts 

Clinical studies have shown that ginkgo extracts exhibit therapeutic activity in a variety of disorders including congestive symptoms of premenstrual syndrome, tinnitus, poor cerebral and ocular blood flow, Alzheimer’s disease, failing memory, age-related dementias. Readers of Quiet Times are well aware of the powerful results that can be obtained for the reduction of tinnitus symptoms by taking proper dosages of Ginkgo biloba extract over time. Arches Tinnitus Formula™ contains the highest quality, naturally grown, premium-grade ginkgo extract found on the world market. It is this superior quality extract that produces superior results.

A survey on HRT and dietary supplements was conducted of 100 peri- or postmenopausal women at a San Francisco women’s health conference in March 2000. Of the 100 eligible women, 29% used hormone replacement therapy (HRT) alone, 16% used HRT with dietary supplements, 32% used dietary supplements alone, and 13% used no product or used supplements excluded in this survey. The most common dietary supplements were soy (29%), ginkgo biloba (16%), and black cohosh (10%). Those women using a combination therapy of both HRT and dietary supplements reported enhanced improvement in vaginal dryness, libido, and mood compared with those using HRT alone. In fact the perceived quality of life and overall control of menopausal symptoms were highest among women using dietary supplements alone and women using combination therapy, respectively. (6) 

I just began to have symptoms, which started all in one day: period a week early, nasty headache, dizziness (which is how I found all of you), insomnia, and nausea. Vanessa, I'm like you in that I didn't think of menopause much-- and only really knew about the hot flashes and mood changes that everyone talks (and jokes) about-- until May 7, 2015. It was scary not knowing what was happening, and also, the few people I asked didn't know that these symptoms could be related to peri-m. Reading all of these posts (and how I appreciate the openness you share here), I'm beginning to brace myself that it may be for me as you said: "I certainly did not expect it to take over my life like this". It just doesn't seem a good omen that it hit so hard out of the blue. Thank you-- all of you-- for talking about your experiences. I'm going to see my GP, but it seems so very likely that I'm entering this "stage of life" and must continue to educate myself. I wasn't too thrilled about turning 50. Now, I'm even less so. I'm glad you women have posted here. Thanks to you, Vanessa, and everyone else.