Is it necessary to get a gallbladder removed for a stone of 3mm?

@designergirl12: I have found Aspalls but one bottle looks like oil and is labelled 'Aspalls Organic Cyder Vinegar' (price £1.50) no mention of what its made of and the other is labelled 'Aspalls Balsamic Apple Vinegar' (£3.50). The latter mentions apple and organic only in the ingredients but doesnt mention 'cyder' and it looks black - which one is it ?

It's the first one, not the balsamic althought that sounds very a nice to put on salads. They are organic so will be the best.

My sister said that drinking ACV made her very ill, but she did drink a tumbler full!!! Nutter!

ok thanks,

lol

I have to say , there are some harsh comments on this topic . Are some of you in the US , because there is a great of talk about bonus for certain types of surgery . I am sorry some of you have had bad experiences which have made you so sceptical . For one , I have never come across unnecessary gall bladder surgery being done . In fact our surgeons are very careful when making the decision to remove the gall bladder , in fact they try not to unless it totally necessary .

As for the USS radiographers , I am sure there are students doing the scans but they will be supervised . They have to put a certain amount of pressure on the body in order to get the proper pictures of the organs they need to see. So they will have to press , but I am sure if you let them know you are in pain , they will stop .

I think in the US they wont do unnecessary surgery because the people have to pay for medical treatment.

In the UK NHS health/welfare system for most people its free. Now there is huge competition because of government stupidy cutbacks so consultants have their hidden tactics to make money. One way is, the more ops they do the more money/bonus they get bcause ops cost a lot more money.

For those in the UK who are wealthy or have money to jump the queue, unnecessary surgery is not an option for them

@designergirl12: just had a thought....if the stones are big enough not causing pain nor getting stuck in the bile duct and then if you use ACV to shrink them...., doesn't the possiblity of a smaller/shrinked stone is more like to find its way into the bile duct, get stuck and cause pain and then lead to surgery ?

this looks like a catch-22 situation ?

@blondewitch: btw, i had a learner left on their own unsupervised to do the scan. Only when after a lot of pressure he couldn't see what it was he summoned a senior who was not student/learner and the senior was a little more gentle.

Oh dear , that is bad . they should have been supervised .

The NHS isn't free Trex, we all pay into it with our National Insurance.

Catch 22 is correct, I am hoping that my stone will not get any bigger than 13mm if it shrinks a little then that is ok - but ACV does minimise pain.

Thank you Trex, Because I was now told there may be no surgery (cancer) I asked my GP last visit if surgery cost more than chemo or radiotherapy, etc. And was told no it doesn't.

I have a daughter in the States who said years ago and I think she was talking about cancer, Don't let them cut.

I found a website on Gallbladders by the same name, in Ca I think. I never did buy but they always send me receipes, newsletters, etc. One I can remember was Flax.

If you want more info. and it's legal to give you the name on here, let me know.

Take care, Han

I know designergirl12, it seems free unless you think about it - like 'is it really free ?' most people dont think about it so much like that and it seems free. In the UK it comes out of NI contributions, in the US people have to pay for it directly, when they visit the doc or hospital they get billed for it.

@Daffs: if you ask the doctor, specially on the NHS, i dont think they would really tell you the truth and specially if asked directly.

Think about it this way...there are so many people waiting for an op on the waiting list in a deep (economic) recession, an operating theatre is a 'room' for a patient, so many machinery, medical equipment, many different types of doctors, aneathesist (nurse, resus team, vital signs monitoring staff, surgeon, registrar, surgeons assistant, etc, etc) a team full of people. Then the recovery phase. Maybe the op is 30 - 60 mins, recovery maybe a few hours, need a seperate team to look after/monitor you - all this is time & money. In fact: time = money and thats for the whole team individually for both the operating team and recovery team and they get paid a huge salary for all this.

So, i would think it would be expensive, whereas if you were just on a ward, only the bed = time = money

Thank you Trex, any ideas how I can get that op. don't have much going for me, over the 65s, other med. problems (which although would be nice to get treated, I can handle them and rearrange my life). I'm single again with no family here, so no one to question why.

Today a Dist N. was arranged to copme to dismantle my chemo bottle. I was all botched up and didn't come so I had to go to the hosp to get it done. This Distr. N. was highly recommended and arranged by my GP. I'm fed up with it. Although I didn't feerl good (chemo) I went. But what happens when I can't go.

Keep trying ../.

Bestm Daffs

Not sure how big the stone I have is, but I was told by the consultant that the stone was quite large and therefore was almost certainly NOT the cause of my pain. However, when I told my GP he said that, she rolled her eyes!

I am about to go for a private consultation because my husband wants me to get another opinion.

Hi I recently found out I have multiple gallstones of nearly 1 cm big. But my question is now what is my do's and don'ts cuz I have no clue. Like may I still have a beer? Can I still eat my hot sauce ect... can anyone halp me?