Marijuana Induced Hell (PLEASE READ/HELP)
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Hi,
In December of 2012 I made a completely moronic mistake. I smoked a lot of weed and had a panic attack. I took a few hits of a joint, was already too high without realizing it and then I got passed a vaporizer and hit that without realizing how powerful it was. I didn’t even know what a vaporizer was, it was my 3rd time smoking pot in my life and it has been haunting me to this day.
The next day when I woke up I felt what I later found out to be depersonalization/derealisation. I went on an SSRI and after 2 months of complete HELL I was able to live…decently. That being said, my anxiety was through the roof, I was having physical symptoms that I never, ever had – or even knew existed for that matter, I’ve been getting weird, annoying thoughts, halos around lights, visual distortions and a bunch of other stuff that’s been hard to deal with.
Now I’m really ambitious and despite feeling this way I just kept pushing through, I ended up moving cities, switching my life, was studying nonstop, doing music production, working, blah blah and I had a panic attack one day that seems to have relapsed me into the exact same hell that I endured when I smoked that pot.
I should also mention that I got off of my SSRI about 3-4months ago because of sexual side effects and I think that was a bad idea. I’m back on Ciprilex 10mg, in a mood and anxiety program, I’ve purchased a couple programs, im eating better (when I can actually eat), going to the gym, etc. I will do ANYTHING to get my life back. Before this I was a 3.97GPA student and I was making good money, loving life. Now I can’t go to school this September and I’m flat broke – I feel like I’m living in hell.
I knew I had GAD before this but it was always controllable. I was always told marijuana was good for anxiety and I know firsthand that for me, it’s not. I obviously triggered a latent disorder or exacerbated my pre-existing condition but I am praying that I can get it back to where it used to be (its 100x worse in every way possible) and get rid of this depersonalization in time.
Has anybody ever experienced a reaction to marijuana like this? I messed up, I know it but I’m praying I didn’t ruin my life/future. I'm not suicidal and I'm absolutely determined to get better, I will fight nonstop and do everything necessary -- but in 5 years if I'm still living like this I would honestly kill myself. I do not want to die and just the thought of that and having these thoughts in my head are killing me because I have so much good to offer the world and I love life more than anything, it's truly beautiful, I want to be me again.
Please help me. I’m desperate.
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jack58541 Ihateweed89
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Hi
This my story ,I never found anything on line so close to my experience
When I was 18 and studying in school I developed a fear of my own thoughts.
It went like this, when I am studying something, another thought would come in and say, how can you study, I am aware that you are studying now, so the more you try to study, you won’t be able to because I know you are trying to study (the intrusive thought itself blocked me)(I don’t think it’s like telling someone not to think of an elephant, its seems like there is a force not to accomplish what I would like to do).I developed heart palpitations from it for about 2 weeks, the most horrible moment in my life up until that age. So I stopped studying and started doing sports like basketball and that was a fair way for me to avoid thinking about my negative thoughts.
When I was 22, I took marijuana (or at least I thought it was) and went into total panic about that fear I developed ,my fear felt like its 100 times the size, so I started to run, so my mind should try to think about something else,so of course that itself intensified the fear. After a while my mind went into self-analyzing itself with all sorts of destructive thoughts and fears (which I can’t remember) .I came to a point where I lost confidence in my ability to know when I am aware of doing something or unaware of doing it, (I know this all in mind, but it felt very real) which made me think that I might cross a street without knowing that I am crossing it .My head felt like it was going to explode until i gave up and said, yes, I lost control, then I sat down holding my head ,It felt like it was a breakdown of my abilities psychologically (I still relive that moment today when I am falling asleep, I would get get jolted by that feeling ,but my mind still wants to sleep, and it would happen again and again until I force myself to wake up ,go to a chair ,sit down for about an hour and then go back to sleep). There were a lot more self-destructive thoughts that I can’t remember any more. Anyway the marijuana started warring off. I came home (this was at night) and looked in the mirror and I was happy that at least I look the same.
I went to sleep saying to myself this was hopefully a bad dream .When I woke up in the morning I felt strange, because when I was in a room ,I didn’t feel like i was in it, I felt like i am somewhere else ......I feel like this up until today ...I am 60 now...this happened 38 years ago.I think the reason I don’t feel like I am in a place although I know I am, is because my subconscious mind thinks its still under the influence of the drug.
A few days later I had to take valium ...I couldn’t handle my fears
I started going to therapists on the hope that I can be like I was before I took the marijuana, but no avail. Then I had to take Anfnaril to ssris to Effexor
A year and a half ago the Effexor stopped working and started to make me feel worse so my Dr started changing my medications up until 3 weeks ago. Nothing seems to work anymore .
My Dr. went on vacation and decided to try to go without the meds (I just stayed on klonopin).
My question is
1) how do I handle the fear of: how can you study, I am aware that you are studying now, so the more you try to study, you won’t be able to because I know you are trying to study.
2) Since all my fears all happened and developed under the influence of a drug ,they are all in my subconscious mind how can I do an AWARE program ,I don’t know what many of the fears are ,they are spinning in my head and my mind is trying to protect me from them?
Thank you very much
mick65587 Ihateweed89
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The next acid trip changed my whole horizon when i came down. then 2 weeks latter it started like something niggling it eventially intoxicated every part of me it was stuck in my psyche it was a bad bad time i thought i was going mad no one had answers and i was scared to get help because of what they may think of me and maybe i just didn't wont to know, the anxiety/fear one night sent me blind for half a minute i was reading the bible trying to keep focused at the time i could feel it building up and then it just sweeped over me for that moment or so,the brain saps at night that use to roar through my head at night momentarily leave paralysed these were the physycal effects the thoughts were killing me i'd lost myself i'd withdrawn lost all my confidence i was a babbling idiot it took every thing that i was and replaced it with negative scenarios, 24/7 continuous tinnitus in the ears visual distortions shimmering vibrating ever so slightly grainy surfaces a more this happened to me 42 years ago
As i will tell you more i've run out of time and got to go to work
just remember its a thought dont wrestle it away take its power away by not reacting to it and not giving it the attention that you normallyt give, those are the things that drive it its your reaction that fuels it and the feelings behind it. At the moment quickly i've weaned myself of medication after 20 years,
catch up with you soon
jack58541 mick65587
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your story is very scary whith a good ending.
My problem is ,how do I get to the thoughts ,so that I could learn how not to react strongly and not to give it too much attention.Its rumbling in my mind with out me knowing what the thoughts even are .I think my mind is afraid to release all those scary thoughts.Its almost as if it wont let me get there.
A good response to this would be very helpful ...thanks
mick65587 Ihateweed89
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When every you catch the thought or it comes to you dont push it away let it play along you are not give it much notice and your not going to qualify it by reacting with fear you know in your heart you have a deep sense of trust and im not going to be emotional stuff around its an unlikly scenario.important get upset avoid any fearful emotional reactions
Next part in dealing with this is to down grade the the importance of the thoughts and images, using imagery you recreate with this cartoon characteristics, imagine Donald Duck telling it to you with an anxious squeaky voice with with stupidly over size shoes for instance now you are really scared by doing this to your fearful intrusive thoghts it tkes away the authority you would normally have over you.
the better detailed to this imagery you create the better it works ,
The 2 point are that you never over react when it spring upon you secondly you rerun it in a cartoon way and make it rediculously silly as you rephrazed thought .
last point for tonight when ever you feel a panic attack coming on for no likely life threatening reason, Firstly don't go looking for thoughts to justify or unjustify this very inmportant do not think at all, the only thing that is relavent at this momemt is a feeling but but dont push it away, go with the feeling with it its just a physical squirmish feeling when at this point there is nothing to sustain it it will decrease the thinking go's to breathing pattern you need to do breath in 1/3 of the way hold it and count to 3 then exhale most of hold count to 10 and repeat it takes practice and control,.
By practices all of the things i've discussed takes away the the importances and by this same nature slows down the frequency and strenght of these episodes
to a point were you can control the outcome
Cheers Mick
cheers for now
linds00809 mick65587
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Thank you for writing this. Has very good insight and hopefully will help.
Ihateweed89
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Short answer, not good.
I have OCD, GAD, clinical depression, depersonalization disorder and a psychosomatic pain disorder.
I had OCD/GAD from birth and the marijuana undoubtedly made my conditions worse and gave me depersonalization and a psychosomatic pain disorder.
I've done CBT, used pharmacological intervention, I've done it all and I have a very long way to go -- if getting better is even a possibility. A stressful incident also triggered everything and this was not drug related but a stressful life event.
Here are the facts -- if you are an anxious person or suffer from a mental disorder and you do drugs, you are playing with your life. You're playing Russian roulette.
If you want to believe marijuana is good for anxiety and all of that other nonsense, go ahead. I know the truth since I'm living it and I've read about it all over the internet, every now and then someone like me gets iced and becomes very, very mentally ill.
Long story short, if you suffer from mental issues, stay away from drugs. If you don't, you're a moron. If you argue or disagree with me, really, I don't care, it's your future so if you end up psychologically incapacitated, it doesn't bother me at all.
To those suffering:
-get diagnosed
-start CBT, learn about metacognition, learn about ERP, learn about ACT
-use pharmaceuticals if you need it (I don't personally recommend benzos and if you're going to use them, SHORT TERM USE ONLY, DO NOT BECOME DEPENDENT)
-seek professional help (therapy, social workers, whatever)
-find a support system
-lifestyle changes (no drugs, no drinking, cut caffeine, eat better, sleep better, exercise, etc)
Mental health isn't a game. It's serious business. If you're struggling, get your ass in gear and start being proactive. If you don't, it's not going to end up pretty.
To all these people saying "weed didn't do anything" -- yadda yada, I hope all people with half a brain ignore them. It triggers mental disorders and can make you way worse than you were already.
I don't respond to private messages much because I don't enjoy having to discuss this type of idiocy. I should be making 90k/year and having sex with 10s 3 times a week on my scheduled breaks from work. Instead I'm mentally and physically ill because of psychological issues, on work leave, making $0/yr and life is just horrendous.
I hope many of you take my advice and recover. For me, it's still possible, I didn't realize many of the problems were in my mind but that's because mental illness created these problems. I used to think I was normal but really, all of the sh*t I had been experiencing since I was 5 (negative thought patterns, anxious behaviour, etc etc) was all apart of GAD. Compulsions, obsessions, fixation, all apart of OCD.
It is what it is, I hope you work hard and get better.
Good luck.
TheBigJorkowski Ihateweed89
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I've also realised today that a few members have tried to pm me which I didn't reply to, I can only apologize, this is the first time I've been involved in a forum of any kind, and didn't realise I'd had any messages. I know the score now though!
And lastly, be kind to yourselves! It sounds a bit wet but you've obviously been through a lot, and the last thing you need to be doing is beating yourself up even more about it.
Keep fighting.
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