Marijuana Induced Hell (PLEASE READ/HELP)

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Hi,

In December of 2012 I made a completely moronic mistake. I smoked a lot of weed and had a panic attack. I took a few hits of a joint, was already too high without realizing it and then I got passed a vaporizer and hit that without realizing how powerful it was. I didn’t even know what a vaporizer was, it was my 3rd time smoking pot in my life and it has been haunting me to this day.

The next day when I woke up I felt what I later found out to be depersonalization/derealisation. I went on an SSRI and after 2 months of complete HELL I was able to live…decently. That being said, my anxiety was through the roof, I was having physical symptoms that I never, ever had – or even knew existed for that matter, I’ve been getting weird, annoying thoughts, halos around lights, visual distortions and a bunch of other stuff that’s been hard to deal with.

Now I’m really ambitious and despite feeling this way I just kept pushing through, I ended up moving cities, switching my life, was studying nonstop, doing music production, working, blah blah and I had a panic attack one day that seems to have relapsed me into the exact same hell that I endured when I smoked that pot.

I should also mention that I got off of my SSRI about 3-4months ago because of sexual side effects and I think that was a bad idea. I’m back on Ciprilex 10mg, in a mood and anxiety program, I’ve purchased a couple programs, im eating better (when I can actually eat), going to the gym, etc. I will do ANYTHING to get my life back. Before this I was a 3.97GPA student and I was making good money, loving life. Now I can’t go to school this September and I’m flat broke – I feel like I’m living in hell.

I knew I had GAD before this but it was always controllable. I was always told marijuana was good for anxiety and I know firsthand that for me, it’s not. I obviously triggered a latent disorder or exacerbated my pre-existing condition but I am praying that I can get it back to where it used to be (its 100x worse in every way possible) and get rid of this depersonalization in time.

Has anybody ever experienced a reaction to marijuana like this? I messed up, I know it but I’m praying I didn’t ruin my life/future. I'm not suicidal and I'm absolutely determined to get better, I will fight nonstop and do everything necessary -- but in 5 years if I'm still living like this I would honestly kill myself. I do not want to die and just the thought of that and having these thoughts in my head are killing me because I have so much good to offer the world and I love life more than anything, it's truly beautiful, I want to be me again.

Please help me. I’m desperate.

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    The real point is, if anyone wants to ignore all sensible advice and play roulette with their mental health then sure thing, do as you please. Pretending that this kind of drug is safe for someone with mental health issues simply isn't supported, is very patronising and misleading, and is just misguided. But at the same time if someone is determined to take these chances, no skin of my nose, just be sure to tell your therapist what you've been doing to take you there
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    I am going through exactly what you are going through. I'm not sure how to explain it to my doctor on way that she won't think I'm crazy and put me on antipsychotic medication. I'm still have panic attacks but I keep reminding myself that it's not real and it goes away. The most difficult part for me is the depersonalizations. I feel like I am seeing through someone else's eyes. It's so hard to stay focus. There are good days but the bad days define fly out number the good ones. Can you please give me the name of the medication that helped you? My doctor says I look like I am depressed and want to put me on anti depressants smh. I really don't know what to do. This was my first time smoking weed with a friend and I can't help but wonder if there was Something else in that weed. I am completely crewed and the worst part is every time I discuss this with friends they look at me like in losing my mind.
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    I had a similar experience. Never smoked strong marijuana before then took a trip to Amsterdam with friends. I smoked about 4 joints when I was there. On the secnd occasion I smoked it (the first I felt anxious and uncomfortable/paranoid but I was also very drunk so it took the edge off a bit).

    On the second occasion we went to one of the cafes and shared 2 joints between 3 of us. I was a cigarette smoker at the time and neither of my two accompanying friends were, so unfortunately I was the one who inhaled the most. I should add I was also hungover at this point after I'd just been on a 13 hour drinking binge, and I smoked the 2 joints alongside a double espresso. I was incredibly stupid doing this as I have a history of severe psychosis and currently have a severe anxiety disorder, but I was curious and sometimes I really don't think rationally about what I'm doing. 

    After the first few hits I started to feel very detached. This overwhelming fear then quickly came over me and I can only describe it as feeling a huge sense of inner agitation/rrestlessness, and mental turmoil. I was convinced the group of men next to our table were Arabian assassins and I started to play out in my head how they would follow us back to our hotel and kill us. All I wanted to do was get out of there/cry. I was physically shaking and my mouth was really, really dry, so I was finding it hard to swallow. I don't think I've ever felt so uncomfortable in a certain situation in my life. It was like the walls were closing in and all I could think about was how agitated I was and how it felt like every pair of eyes in the world were on me. Sounds like a completely melodramatic recollection but I was terrified. 

    After about 4 hours I felt pretty sleepy and hungry but a bit more relaxed. We were out drinking again that night and I seemed to be ok. 

    However when I got home to my house I noticed my mood had taken an instant downturn. I couldn't concentrate on ANYTHING except how much I hated being anxious - and that obviously makes you more anxious. I was also unable to leav the house for a while because of sheer panic and exhaustion. I did also hallucinate quite vividly on several occasions. 

    The months following that trip were an absolute nightmare. My depression was uncontrollable, I began self harming frequently whichever unusual for me. I couldn't sleep, I turned to drink to try and sleep and then developed a dependence I have thankfully now managed to beat. I had frequent panic attacks and an overwhelming sense of impending doom/extreme internal anger and impulsivity. 

    The solution I've found in alleviating this is stimulating my central nervous system. I use high dose nicotine patches every day. Cannabis depresses the central nervous system - hence why some people feel very relaxed when they smoke it. For some people though it has a paradoxical reaction and as you say it can exacerbate a latent condition in susceptible individuals. The bottom line is that cannabis disturbs brain chemistry, leaving you vulnerable to perceiving threats wrongly. (Anxiety and psychosis from my armchair perspective are rooted in the Limbic system of the brain that regulates the fight or flight mechanism). 

    My only suggestion is to try and get your brain to re-regulate itself. There are several stimulating anti-depressants that also are used for anxiety disorders (Venlafaxine would be one of them). Sometimes I do feel that using medicines or other substances like Nicotine is the only way you can intervene in an anxiety like yours. It's strange that stimulants can alleviate anxiety but I personally feel it is because the brain is depressed or damaged that anxiety develops, not that a persons brain is overactive.

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    Hey all, am in exactly the same boat, almost a year to the day I smoked a joint. Am very slowly feeling better, the times I am "in" it feel slightly less each time and the times I come out of it feel a bit more like my old self. Just so sick of feeling dizzy and detatched. Anyone else get that wash of fear and dread come over them for no reason? Like a cold bucket of anxiety poured over you because God forbid you decided to tie your shoes!

    Am on mirtazapine, helps me sleep and has stopped horrid sweating and trembling ain't as bad as it was, have almost weaned off citalopram, that did nothing but made me worse and I worried about it.

    I guess the worst part is the way I view the world is just different now. Nothing feels good anymore. My kids and wife are like strangers to me.

    so yeah, doubt I'll be smoking pot ever again!

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    Wow wondering if the 89 is a birth date if so this is eery but i have found that i enjoyed marujana for a long time years in fact until my mother died and i was convinved it was sending me on a downward spiral to hell.  However once disregarding the fact that my mother struggled for years to maintain her medication when she was disgnosed with bipolar disorder, back in 1999, i failed to receive or accept medication for my depression until 2010 and still didn't maintain any consistent medical therapy until October 2014.  I now realise that all along it had sweet f. a to do with the cannabis (this may be different for you we are all individuals and differing substances and alcohols affect us all differently). Anyway i now maintain my own meds with the help of my gp, i am waiting to receive an appointment for counselling.  I am a strong and firm believer in mindfullness and try to use it in every way possible in my life and will continue to study the concept like a bible.  It is THAT life-changing.  I also recommend reading or watching The Secret by Thorn someone or something or other i dont remember but its on netflix just type it in and it should be the first one that pops up...

    I hope you havent done anything stupid, like kill yourself, you seem like a lovely person just struggling with life in general at the moment but dont let it get you down, these moods only last forever if you think and "will" them too.

    I hope you have already found help and support and are feeling much happier, if no i hope you see this and my advice helps.

    God bless x

     

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      i would recommend to you 'the power of now' by Eckhart Tolle. I feel 'the secret' is a bit materialistic. It tends to focus on what you want and tells you to be happy all the time which is unrealistic. If you practice mindfullness (as you mentioned) and read the book i mentioned you'll love it. If you buy the audiobook you'll have goosebumps within the first 5 minutes just because everything he says makes so much sense. Eckhart Tolle is an amazing guy. I found his book incredibly helpful, unfortunatly i find his methods difficult to apply to every day life though. Probably because it's hard to change the way you think when you've spent your entire life thinking 'wrong'. 

      when you do apply it you can say goodbye to anxiety instantly. He teaches you to live in the moment, where there's a constant peace behind all the junk inside your head. How to avoid making problems thinking about tomorrow when they've not even happened yet. It's a brilliabt book.

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      The Bible is good I agree. But the Secret? Please read about when the writer and leader of the secret made a sweat lodge and it killed some people and sent others to the hospital . Be informed and be careful . For me I will never smoke weed again! Read about my weed from hell if it hasn't been removed again! People really need to be informed. Yes weed helps many but I would stay away from edibles and concentrates. Concentrate sent me down my road to hell . Sent me to trauma center with head busted open from passing out on cement!! Jesus helps me get thru this nightmare. I wil never smoke again! We all have different body chemistry and over doing anything is not good!!

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      I quit smoking a month and a half ago! So not worth it to me. I had my bad experience with dabbing. I passed out busted head open on cement and ended up in ER ! Life is on hold because the person I was with said seizure! I was unconscious but could still hear. I been smoking for six years every night medical MJ for Anxiety and depression. I am still waiting for results of EEG !! Never again !! Never. But I had only been dabbing for a few months off and on ! Again medical. Done .
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      Oh it cost me big money to for ambulance BF called! He was freaked out! My eyes were still open and I was throwing up and clenching jaw. Which I do any way due to TMJ.. I can't wait until this nightmare is completely gone!! I am 62 so no kid ! In good shape , workout four days a week , two hours each workout . One hour weight training and floor work and one hour treadmill.. Petite person at 5 ft 3 and 124 pounds..

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    I am shocked that I just happened to come by this topic randomly & by chance just surfing the web trying to find out bout p tsd..wow..after many years of trying to help my son who suffers from mental illness thats been passed through to him by me through genes..and really getting no where..but to a point which I would have either gone ko okoo insane crazy or my son would have or one of us would gave gotten hurt..but thsnk God he agreed to go as a walk-in to be admitted to our cities Psychiatric Hospital for people who suffer from mental Illness whether long term or short and was seen by both a Dr & Psychiatrist & was immediately admitted has to stay in there fir at least a minimum of 30 days..and its changing my sons life...He has what is called Marijuana Psychosis...read up on it..I have never heard of this before but my son was going through he'll just like you he begged for help he just wanted to be normal again..the tjings he said he felt were happening to him happened to him what he went through befire he decided he wanted to be admitted to a mental institution was horrifying and very very scary..The day before he decided to go I feared for my life dhe to what he was muttering and saying under his breath..Good luck to you I hope you get your life back to normal God bless!
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      There is no such thing as "marijuana psychosis". Psychosis is psychosis, regardless of whether it was drug induced. 
    • Posted

      It makes a difference to treatment and recovery though so its actually an important distinction. If it can be brought on by illicit drug use,then of course it makes sense to not dabble with them,especially if you already have mental health issues. Its like not drinking alcohol if you have liver problems, just common sense really
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      Considering most psychosis is treated in exactly the same way and rehabillitation services for people with addiction problems are non existant, massively underfunded, or have been decimated by the Tories in this country then no, it doesn't really make a difference. 

      If you are with a non specialist mental health team in the UK (CMHT) the treatment for all psychosis is the same (antipsychotics and/or CBT).

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      I think what your missing and what everyone is trying to say is that if a recreational and illegal drug can worsen existing problems then why be crazy enough to use it. The symptoms of pyschosis may well be treated the same, but the condition is certainly not the same in all cases. It can be a lifelong disabling problem for many, and is viewed very differently than someone with a one time issue due to drug use, as it should be
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      I'm not missing anything. Where exactly have I said it is a good idea to use marijuana? I haven't said it at all and I don't support it's 

      legalisation. What I do accept though is that people make mistakes and sometimes judgment is impaired. My psychosis and schizophrenia diagnosis was not in any way drug related or caused seeing as I never used marijuana or any type of illegal drug beforehand. 

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