Mona Lisa touch reviews
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I had my third treatment 10 days ago. No uti since I started like 3 months ago. BUT now pain n stinging. Thought uti but tested not. Uncomfortable for a week. Even used prep h to try to stop painted it actually work for a while I'm also doing the ice cubes… So anybody out there can share their experience with me I sure would appreciate it
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danielle58408 nancyo
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HI - I had 3 MLT procedures a year ago this month. The first procedure wasn't painful but the after effects were very painful. I was never in so much pain.! My vagina swelled so much that I could barely walk, I was icing and putting the cream on for the burning, but it barely did anything. Eventually the swelling stopped but the burning and itching are horrible. I still have this 1 year after 3 MLT's. I do believe it was a waste of money for the most part. There is one up-side I don't have the dryness that I once had. I had the MLT as I was going into menopause, I had a full hysterectomy at the age of 45. I would not every be able to recommend this procedure as I don't believe the pros out weigh the cons. Save your money.
Dotsie danielle58408
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Oh no that's terrible. I have been fine and only had the side effects i was warned about but it was nothing. i had one treatment in Bristol about 6 months and that was painful...i didnt go back..she was a midwife and i could tell the way she was talking she hadn't been doing it long. Another waste of money and not pleasant at all. I think it depends on who does it and the training involved.. My lady is a urologist doctor with experience in treating different vaginal problems with a laser and lots of training. I'm just hoping it's successful eventually with the 3 treatments.
Dotsie danielle58408
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I'm thinking you were definitely over lasered ....I read an article in a medical journal recently.
shelta05674 danielle58408
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AGREE 100%. It's too expensive for the chance it might or might not work. I think for the prices they charge, the outcome should be much better. I THREW AWAY A LOT OF MONEY, and I HATE THAT!!
Mimmmie nancyo
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I had 4 treatments and very satisfied. My last one was in September.
Dotsie nancyo
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I had my first Mona Lisa Touch treatment at the Eve Clinic Birmingham UK yesterday. It was painless.I was treated by an urologist doctor who was female and extremely interested in me and my journey through Vaginal Atrophy ...3 years now ...plus the Italian female director who learnt all about the Mona Lisa Touch where it was invented in Italy 20 years ago.
Vagifem didn't work for me.I have tried everything out there and nothing has worked. I don't suffer from ITU'S .I also don't suffer an awful lot of discomfort BUT i also dont have a sex life at the moment and for 5 years. I have my 2nd treatment in a month and then one more.I have also had my labia treated.
My main problem for me is the secretions that i have from the vagina walls rubbing together and having to use a tena lady at all times. These secretions are not foul smelling and part of my VA journey but nether the less distressing and stopping me making new relationships....I'm 58 and divorced.
I will follow this up and keep a diary on here for anyone thinking of going ahead with the treatment.
kathryn26445 Dotsie
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Hi i sincerely hope this treatment works for you, I travel to London for my ML treatment and I did look at the Eve clinic as it is much closer to where I live I cannot praise this treatment enough but was told I need another treatment Im not sure what treating the labia involves, i do still have slight burning though trying to avoid a vagifem prescription but that worked for me instantly prior to having my first ML in 2017 but only just started having issues again so went for ML 3 weeks ago, just a process of elimination really.
Dotsie kathryn26445
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Hi Kathryn nice to be in touch with someone who has recently had the MLT. I went to The Eve Clinic in Birmingham after alot of research and talking to Florina Borsan . The price was half of what their London Clinic charges because of the postcode..crazy !!! I also live in Cornwall and nothing like that down here. Did you have 3 treatments with a 4/6 week gap in between each treatment? They then recommend a treatment after a year or so. Not everyone needs this. I will have my next treatment next month....this is when apparantly you really begin to notice a big difference. Not sure as everyone is different.
Yes...I paid extra for my labia but i think that should be included as your labia suffers just as much. I am 58.Mine is all plumped up now ....gosh hate talking like this!!!! You need the numbing cream on the outside and all the labia area plus of course your perenium area ...the vaginal opening suffers also.. mine was quite sore. I didnt feel any pain with the cream. The vagina walls have no nerves so that is painless anyway..i just felt the vibrations as i'm sure you did.
I will keep posting as and when i feel i have an update for everyone. I am single and not in a sexual relationship at the moment. I can't believe the ignorance associated with this terrible condition and only the women who can afford the MLT get any sort of permanent relief. The pessaries, drug store creams,lubricants,internal moisturisers,coconut oils, special vaginal expensive useless creams off the internet,panty liners i have gone through not mentioning all the heartache.
A very much huge taboo subject which is ridiculous. I talk about it to anyone and everyone ...education is key to getting the MLT on the NHS .
kathryn26445 Dotsie
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HI I also spoke to Florina after making an initial enquiry on their website, obviously halving the distance to travel is ideal but also the costs involved I pay £500 per treatment in London which to me personally is expensive, especially now I need another treatment £200 train fares plus my husband loses a days pay and I was made redundant so certainly not ideal, and like you say such a taboo subject and yet so debilitating , if I hadnt found this forum I dont know what I would have done it has been so informative, my treatment is also very basic one 5 minute consultation when you first attend in fact this time I went straight into the treatment suite after she asked me about my last treatment in 2017, I suppose thats because Im not paying Harley Street prices, I believe their consultation is about £500 not entirely sure. Thankyou for taking the time to describe your in depth treatment, many ladies on this forum go into detail and take the time to pass on worth while information, hope everything goes well and your issues improve, take care.
Dotsie kathryn26445
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Hi Kathryn thanks for your reply.I can see how the cost of your treatment has added up! I have paid £1500 upfront to the Eve Clinic for 3 treatments. At the London Clinic this would have been £3000. I didn't pay for a consultation as this was included along with many in depth chats with Florina on the phone.The labia is optional at £200 per session. I paid for one labia treatment last Saturday but i wont necessarily need another one...sort of pay as you go. Are you just having one session? I'm sure I must have misread that as 3 is normal. My train fare was £125 return plus a very quick taxi journey from station to Clinic and back to station but i went on my own all in one day leaving the house at 7am and arriving back at 7pm ....it is only a day in my life.9 hours on a train but had my kindle and food! Cut the cost of staying over. As it was a Saturday..i was off although i know my manageress would have altered the rota for me. Yes i totally agree that it is extremely expensive but totally worth it in my eyes if this works. I don't have many valuable items but i sold a diamond ring i had inherited to cover all this.I know my grandmother would rather me get better than wearing a pointless piece of jewelery. I don't have any valuable items now !!! This treatment will be worth its weight in gold eventually..hopefully .... will keep you posted ...as i hope you will when you have your treatments.Valuable imformation for all of us ...
kathryn26445 Dotsie
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Hi
You sound like one independant lady wow so admirable, I had my first MLT in 2017 , after a private consultation with a local gynaecologist who diagnosed VA, I had used vagifem which gave immediate relief, but I am not keen on the idea of HRT due to high Bp and family history of bc, I only had the one treatment and have been fine until recently just before last christmas, I am married and to be honest would prefer that my sex life was dead and buried especially with this condition, apparently I do need another treatment so your costs seem to be neck and neck with mine, thanks for being so honest. So unfair you having to sell your grans ring, however the proceeds means that you can benefit immensely, I swear by this treatment after one treatment my burning sensation was gone, that alone for me is worth it. Such ashame it is not available on the NHS or even a bit more affordable for people Im sure there must be ladies out there who cannot even consider this option so unfair. Anyway onwards and upwards good luck with your next session. Speak soon.
Dotsie kathryn26445
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HI again had to be independent dealing with nightmare! I've been on my own for 5 years with my son who is now 19 ...been tough at times. I can assure you no one was as nervous as me last Saturday at Birmingham's New Street station....it's like an airport!!Coming from laid back Cornwall!! Still.. i did it. Just booked my next appointment with Florina for April. My sex life is non existent at the moment but i'm only 58 and hope to meet someone new eventually and take up that side of a loving relationship again. I didn't have this when I was married but must be horrendous for you and your husband.I'm still confused as to why you are having only one treatment as this may not be beneficial to you...health wise and financially..as you need at least 2. I might have mis understood you.
kathryn26445 Dotsie
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Hi
Goodness we all have our crosses to bare you certainly havent had it easy, I did a lot of research back in 2017 and to be honest I haven t been on this forum for probably 12 months not sure, because I didnt want to over think the situation, I decided to stay off the forum, as there were suggestions of VA leading to this and that although I have made notes regarding different peoples experiences with different medication, I wanted to keep upbeat and keep my mind clear. My first ML she never recommended a follow up treatment and because I had no issues I opted for just the one treatment however this time she said after the procedure I would need it doing again as you say 4 to 6 weeks in fact the first time she said something along the lines of everything being in order down there, but obviously this time and slightly older it needs a bit more rejuvenation and jump starting in to gear, if I had of experienced issues after the first ML back in 2017 I would have gone back as I think the rule of thumb is 2 possibly 3 sessions I think she did 2 and if you needed a 3rd session it was foc, my issue with this clinic is there is basically no consultation, and going to Harley Street is out of the question for me as the consultation is expensive. I will definately have 2 treatments this time hopefully to alleviate this condition.
Dotsie kathryn26445
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I'm with you...researching it all since 2016. I honestly think it us the personal experiences that will make the difference to the imformation on the MLT. There was nothing out there then and women understandably were embarrassed to come forward. Both my very good girlfriends at the time had never heard of VA and MLT..we class ourselves as fairly intelligent women. We spread the word now to help others. Early menapause which is extremely common and no HRT was my downfall at the time years ago.Not much education again!! Good luck and keep us all in the loop
beverly52803 Dotsie
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Ladies, the ML laser is the same procedure that dermatologists use on faces as I understand it. The laser burns the skin which causes the production of collagen resulting in younger looking (and feeling) skin. I had measles when I was 30 (was so sick thought I might die). As I was recovering the skin on my face literally cracked and pealed off leaving me with beautiful new skin. (Unfortunately it eventually became my regular looking skin.) Pretty sure this is how the ML works. The skin returns to normal with time hence the required tune ups. Don't know how long the skin can withstand the treatments. The doc should be able to tell you although there may not be much history as its a relatively new procedure.
I first read of it online several years ago and figured if my AV became a problem I would use my savings and have the procedure as I also wanted to avoid hormones (my sister had BC), Assumed everything was fine until being diagnosed with lichen sclerosis last spring. Discussed the ML laser with the gyn who said she was following it closely but did not think burning thin menopausal skin was a good idea. From what I have read here some women have been helped, but others have developed further problems. However we on this site are a small sample, who knows what the actual success rate is. I wonder if there are any statistics. Not sure if trials are conducted when it comes to using lasers on skin. This is probably why insurance doesn't cover it.
There is talk of the possibility of ML being used on LS affected skin, but personally I wouldn't take the chance unless there was overwhelming evidence that it was successful. I do wonder if I had tried the ML three years ago if it would have prevented the LS, but I'll never know. I wish you both success with the ML. As it may prevent the onset of LS you may be dodging quite a bullet. I now have to use steroids along with the hormone cream I was trying to avoid.
Turns out the road to getting old is not necessarily a smooth one!
kathryn26445
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Had my 2nd ML about 3 weeks ago, and she said I now need a treatment on the urethra although I havent heard anyone mention this when having this treatment, although I do trust this lady gyn implicitly.
Unfortunately experiencing some burning so just rang for a GP appointment for vagifem which I havent needed for over 18 months, I was determined not to take this but Im afraid the benefits totally outweigh the risks, its all about quality of life.
Also thinking about my bones.
Its just perfectly clear that the female body needs oestrogen to function properly.
amie56973 Dotsie
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Hi All
I am about to go in for my first Mona Lisa Touch appointment
I have had lots of bladder issues and have struggled with IC for many years. Have not been able to have sex with my husband for several years due to vaginal atrophy. Hormone therapy made me feel a little crazy and my sister dies of BC so Im afraid to do the estrogen creams. So at a loss but after reading all these posts am terrified that I will be doing worse harm than good. I was so hopeful that this would help the bladder issues and painful sex..
Any feedback would be much appreciated
Hopefully as time goes by this prcedure will be FDA approved and not cause so many issues
Thank you for any advise
sarah57259 amie56973
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Don't do it!!! Both my OB/GYN and my urologist practically screamed at me when I even brought up the idea of doing the Mona Lisa for my bladder problems.
Google Dr. Malone-lee of the Uk. he specializes in UTI and bladder pain. He believes that almost all bladder pain comes from untreated UTI. You can find him on Twitter and also on Facebook.
kathryn26445 amie56973
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Hi I am into my 2nd year having the ML procedure carried out, similar situation family members bc, so not comfortable taking hormones although I do revert to vagifem when absolutely necessary just one course per annum, I cannot praise this procedure enough, my only concerns are the fact there have been no trials carried out, but what other choices do we have, the burning sensation is intolerable, the horrendous painful sex, waking up each morning feeling so miserable, dealing with a condition that basically is a taboo subject, I had no other choice and can honestly say I just feel a different person when Ive had it done, I just hope I am doing right.
gilda17265 amie56973
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how did it go?
gilda17265 kathryn26445
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how is it going ?
shelta05674 kathryn26445
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I GUESS IF YOU HAVE $3000 dollars and $800 a year to throw away, then go for it. It was a total waste of money for me, and I'm not wealthy. I did it because of the false advertising I heard over and over everyday on the radio. THE PEOPLE THAT WORK THERE ARE VERY SWEET, I just wish they would have told me everything up front, and had been truthful with me about being able to file it myself on my insurance, so it could go towards my high deductible. The receptionist I ask about this said, " Oh yes, you can file it, we just don't". Then, after I had it done and asked for the paperwork, I was told there isn't a ICD9 code, so I couldn't file it. ALSO, after the last of the (three) treatments, I was informed of the $800 a year maintenance. I thought that should have either been included, or told up front! It didn't work long enough for me to waste the first $3000, so why would I throw away more? LESSON LEARNED!!
I do remember them giving me a lot of papers to sign about it might not work, but the radio add sure doesn't say that! Because it didn't! It's not FDA approved for a reason! Like I said, that amount of money probably isn't so much money to some, (office is in Franklin) but it bothered me to have thrown it away.
shelta05674 amie56973
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IT DID NOTHING TO HELP MY IC. Still cannot hold it, and sneezing and coughing still cause me to leak. If your going to do it, I hope it works better for you. Personally, I BELIEVE it is very false advertising.
shelta05674 kathryn26445
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I'm glad it has worked for you, but you are one in 10000000. (This number was just used for effect) I had all three procedured done with mild discomfort and bleeding. At first it was great. I could finally be intimate with my husband of forty years without being in dire pain and teeth gritting. We pretty much had stopped having intercourse because of the pain. The radio advertisement made this sound like the answer to all my female issues. It NEVER helped with UI, and after three months the healing was gone. MAYBE, if you get it done when your younger, before the atrophy is so bad, it might last a year. I think when mine relapsed so fast, they should have offered to do some more treatments, AT NO COST, up to the year. SPENDING $3k and it not lasting more than three months, was a real let down! They should do it as often as needed for the first yea, probably every three months, then after a year, do the one year maintenance for $800. I should have at least had one year of relief for that amount of money!
shelta05674 kathryn26445
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My Endocrinologist told me I could safely take just estrogen for the atrophy. He explained the study that caused so many doctors to take women off of estrogen, was when using a combination of estrogen and progesterone. He said estrogen alone was safe. My Gyn agreed, and now I'm on a low dose and can already feel an improvement! My mind even seems clearer. I don't know why my Gyn didn't suggest this, but oh well. She added a cream to use twice a week too that has enormous other benefits. She explained when I age out, and eventually quit the hormone, the cream will be good to continue. I'm so glad it's not a seven nights a week cream! The Endocrinologist has been an wonderful help to my health. He found I had hypothyroidism too. I took him past blood test and he said it looked like I'd had it awhile, though my NP never said anything! I chalk it up to the fact that I have fibromyalgia and always have so many other issues going on that she just treated those. Take your care into your own hands, and occasionally be checked out by a specialist, if you have issues that never seem to be resolved. So many of us only see NP's now, so I believe we need to see doctors and specialist too, if needed.
beverly52803 shelta05674
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shelta, I'm curious if you have any history of breast cancer in your family.
marilyn090257 amie56973
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Yes sex wasn't my priority because it was too painful. But now it can be a possibility every now and then until I have healed completely. Also I was consistently being treated for UTIs and I finally learned that the burning was coming from LS. After the first Mona Lisa treatment, the burning stopped.
After the second treatment, the vaginal burning lessened and the vulvar tissue was no longer white and flaking off. After the third treatments itching everywhere. So I had to have the fourth treatment and I only ended up with a bit of itching of the major labia at the top for which I have used a bit of cortisone cream twice and so far, I am doing so much better. Just hoping that this "fire" in the skin goes away forever.
If this treatment can keep me like I am or better, I would be most grateful to pay for a treatment once or twice a year for maintenance and a normal life...
Hope this info about my experience with LS and the Mona Lisa laser treatment is helpful.
L3359 shelta05674
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Oh my goodness...you are so correct. However I am struggling to find a gun doc that will help.