My Experience - 7 Weeks After Nhs Halo And Haemorrhoidectomy

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I am a 49-year old male and had stage 3 piles for about 5 years. They never really caused me any pain or suffering per se but were an inconvenience. I had been to my GP ages ago to make sure it wasn't anything serious. Towards the end of 2009 I decided to see what options I might have for sorting them out as I figured I wouldn't want them to get worse and despite being fit and healthy and eating well, they had not gone away of my own accord.

I went to my GP and she did a digital exam and said they were very small - didn't seem like it to me - she said she could refer me if I wanted but I declined. A few weeks later I figured I was copping out and returned to get a referral. I went to see a consultant locally who got me to come back for banding. This was very easy and though it was a bit uncomfortable I was optimistic that it would sort it all out. It didn't - even though it seemed like it would work it in fact made no difference whatsoever. I returned to him and he said he would try the schlerotherapy and another banding as they were quite big and the portable banding machine wasn't up to it. Again nothing really changed.

I read all these forums and was in two minds like so many others whether to pursue it any more. After all I was not in pain per se and clearly some people have really awful experiences, sometimes made worse by the tteatment - I knew I certainly didn't want anything slicing off! I read up what I could about HALO but it seemed to be mainly sales pitch. I decided to see the consultant again and ask him about it. He said he didn't know anything about it but his next step would be banding under GA and he was confident that would do it.

For one reason or another I wasn't convinced and so I called the HALO people and found out where there was locally that did it. They also told me how much it would cost privately (?3k+) but that with a referral I could probably get it on the NHS. A few weeks later I had a session with a consultant who explained the whole thing - also diagnosing a polyp as well as piles - which would never have responded to banding so I was glad to have taken the 2nd opinion. Anyway he put me on the waiting list for a polyp exision and possible HALO.

Time came around in about 6 weeks and I went into hospital for the first time in my life to have day surgery. I was apprehensive but quite positive. The whole experience was very reassuring - the staff were great and I felt very cared for and the surgeon was friendly and explained things. I signed on the dotted line, had my pre-med and felt the curtains close

Woke up feeling fine about 30 mins later. The surgeon explained to my surprise and a bit of shock that they had had to cut a large pile off so I might have a longer recovery time than expected (he had said at least 2 weeks for HALO and up to 10 for pilectomy). That concerned me a bit, espceially when the nurse brought my meds to take home - 3 types of opioid painkiller, 2 types of laxative and some antibiotics. I got the impression they were trying to tell me something. I stayed about 2 hours to satisfy them I'd had a wee, eaten and drunk some fluids etc and got my wife to pick me up.

Felt pretty OK generally even with after effects of the GA - ate and drank lightly and feared the first pooh which came 2 days after the op. Uncomfortable certainly but not especially painful. The absolute best thing after each BM was a nice warm shower spray for a few minutes which really soothed the bruised feeling. This got better over the next 7 to 10 days. I work from home so was fortunate that I didn't need to take time off per se after the first day getting my head clearer but I wouldn't have wanted to have to commute or be away from home.

There were some bad bits but not what I would have expected. The worst bit by far, and it was _horrible_ was the antibiotic (metronidazole)- I had to take it for 5 days and didn't realise what a nasty drug it is (check it out on ****)- around day 3 I was finding alternate nights of complete insomnia, nausea, sweating and a really depressing state of mind feeling like I would never get better. I googled all the meds and realised it was the AB and that these were fairly common side-effects. If I had had a longer run of them I would have asked to change but I figured I would see them out. It was awful and I did have another day off cos I just felt so damn bad from them. My advice here - don't just take what is given to you and not check it out - be aware of what has been prescribed (in fairness they did say thatsome of the meds could give nausea, constipation etc but I didn't expect this one to be so heavy).

The other downside was the laxative - I should have had clearer instructions. You definitely want to make sure you have soft stools etc and are acutely aware that what you eat has to come out the other end - soups, bran flakes, porridge etc are great for this. However if you just take teh laxatives as prescribed - and you are not already constipated (I am always regular)- then they will just play havoc and have you very windy (which also seems to come from the GA gases) and farting all the time with a sore anus is quite painful/uncomfortable in itself (esp if you're not too sure what might be coming down the pipes!) It kept me awake a bit.

What I should have thought with the meds from teh starts is - take them /if/ needed (except see below)

So I had been prescribed metronidazole as mentioned - I took that for the 5 days. I had 3 painkillers - Tramadol which I didn't bother taking, Codrydamol, I took a couple but then didn't bother (and my wife used them all up on migraines!) and Diclofenac - this last one I should have taken all the time but didn't. It is an anti-inflammatory and because I didn't bother with it I think I put myself back a couple days with a very sore and inflamed bottom - so this one I would say take as a matter of course (and I didn't have any side effects). For laxatives I had lactulose syrup and ispagel husks - both are palatable enough but as above I realised after a coupe of days that I probably didn't need them.

All told I was not incapacitated at all. It took a good week to not be too worried about the next BM. After that it just was a process of it getting better every day. The main thing was that the prolapsing piles/polyp were gone and that was a great relief. Had a check up last week and I would say I now feel 100% down there and no concerns at all.

I am very pleased I went ahead with it - I had overcome embarrassment about it ages ago and plain speaking is all that is needed - my reticence had been around being \"operated\" on but that all went very smoothly. I know there are some horror stories on here where people say that the op is worse than the piles but I am sure that complications are in the minority and I would not hesitate in recommending anyone suffering and holding back, check out a good consultant and have it all sorted out. I was glad I had it sorted out when I was fit and in good shape - I think that plays a big part in making the op run smoothly and the caring for oneself that much easier. If was old, infirm or very overweight I think it would be harder. Weight wise I had lost nearly 3 stone over the last 18 months and again I think that helped keep recuperation short.

If, and I hope they don't, recur then I would happily go down the same route again. I hope this story helps others.

Mr Relieved of Surrey

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    Hey guys ,

    I've had enough this week I've been really down depressed and crying I've booked in privately to have them banded I took a look yesterday I have about three piles great big lumps in sick of living my life in chronic pain without any help or support from my pathetic excuse for a GP wish me luck guys

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    Wow a positive post at last - Makes me feel a little better for next weeks op now

     

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      That was before I was reading from the wrong end lol

      Best of luck Mia hun

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    Hi

    I'm currently sitting in Glasgow Rosshall hospital, having yesterday had the Halo procedure done. So far so good, in as much as the surgeon was happy with how it went and I'm in very little pain, although taking painkillers. Glad it's over, I was pretty apprehensive beforehand, but not near as bad as anticipated. The surgeon was a nice down to earth guy, and I'd recommend the hospital.

    I'm self paying the op after 20 years of living with piles. I'm 41. The last 10 years have been particularly bad. Heavy bleeding, prolapse, internal piles, very painful and generally it's been ruining my quality of life for long periods.

    I'd had banding done twice at my Nhs hospital to no effect, and that surgeon recommended a hemorrhoidectomy, which I wasn't keen on, given I'm self employed in the building trade, so recovery wasn't ideal and I didn't like the risks that came with it.

    The surgeon in Glasgow recommended the halo procedure and wouldn't advise the hemorrhoidectomy, so having already read about it, I was happy to give it a go.

    It's early days. It'll take 6-8 weeks to see the benefits apparently. I received 12 stitches in all. As I said, I'm in no pain so far, but dreading the first bowel movement. Urininating was difficult, the first few hours after the op, but it eventually came, and I'm heading home soon. 3 1/2 hour drive, so my wife doing the driving. Just hoping now that it's all been worth it. So will give an update in a while.

    For those in severe pain, I found the over the counter creams and suppositories made me worse. I was prescribed Scheriproct, ointment and suppositories which helped, as did regular applications of Vaseline and long soaks in the bath. I really changed my diet too. Loads of fruit and fibre, no dairy, bread, which I found helped a little too.

    Anyway, I'd read a few stories of people in real pain after the op, and thought I'd give my positive, so far at least, experience of the procedure.

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      Hi - just wondering how your getting on..have my THD booked in for Thursday - quite anxious..more about the going under to be honest - never had a GA before.
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      Kendogs, I'm getting on well. A week and a half on I've had virtually zero pain. I stopped the painkillers once I was out of hospital as they make you constipated.

      The biggest problem I had was with the lactulose I was given as a laxative. It played havoc with my stomach and I switched to movicol and have been fine since.

      Best advice is do not get constipated after the op, and don't go for bowel movement unless your sure you definitely need to. You do get an urge to go without needing to I found.

      It was a couple of days after the op before I could go, and it was daunting, but not too bad all in all. Plenty baths, a good diet and lots of fruit helping too.

      I'm a million times better than I was already, but will see how it goes. I was told its 6-8 weeks to feel the full benefits.

      I wasn't keen on the general anaesthetic either but it's not bad, so don't worry.

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    Hi Kendogs - I had the HALO procedure (pretty much same as THD) just over a year ago. I didn't have a GA fot it, I had an injection in my spine. I have had GA's before though - you will be fine with the GA , you'll be asleep before you know it and wake up afterwards with the op done. People on this forum are very supportive - ask anything and someone with a similar experience will give you an answer. I was off work for a month after my op, so don't expect a quick recovery despite what they might tell you. Good luck & try not to worry. Any questions afterwards, just get back on this forum again.  
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    Hi. I've suffered with piles for 19 years after birth of my first son. I had the HALO op two days ago. I have had very watery diarrhoea like BM about a dozen times since op and need to go each time I wee. I have no appetite but drinking lots of water. Very painful bum. Sore and achy but know it's still early days. I've stopped taking laxative as my BM were too much. Every time I stand up or pass wind I need to run (or waddle) to the loo. Hardly sleeping as pain increases at night time as I stop the painkillers. I use a salty sitz bath after each BM alternating between Luke warm and cold but that just makes me want to go again. Waiting on call back from consultant to see if my BM are normal but if he doesn't call I need to go to my GP if continues. I've not taken any of the strong Tromodal painkillers as I think they may make things worse. I'm not straining at all and just waiting for my massive stomach gurgle followed by watery BM. Really wishing I hadn't had the op at the moment and feeling down. All normal I guess. Not sure what I can do to improve things and my recovery
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      Hi Lorraine, sorry to hear your having a hard time of it. My appetite took a good 3 or 4 days to return. I'm coming up on two weeks after the same op and I do feel much better.

      Sounds as if maybe your medication might be causing your bowel troubles so best seeing a gp.

      I always had terrible constipation so really need the laxative. If your sore, and not constipated, I'd take the painkillers as long as they aren't causing you bowel trouble.

      Anyway, hope you get it sorted soon. Take care

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      Hi Lorraine , I feel your pain . Most HALO or THD procedures dont involve too much in the way of pain , its normally more of a discomfort . I've had 3 , and each time were relatively pain free . My last procedure was the haemhorroidectomy , which was quite literally hell on eath , and all of the usual pain killers did nothing for me . My morphine dosage was ridiculous , and still it didnt stop the agony . In the latter stages I was prescribed gabapentin which works in a totally different manner , and that did take the sharpness off it . With regards to the BM , this is either your diet or medication or a mixture of both thats causing this . The procedure you have had is much further down the digestive system than where the hardness or softnes of your BM is determined . Personally I feel that a watery BM is just as bad as a hard BM when it comes to toilet after an op . It is a difficult thing to balance up , as you dont want to stop the painkillers , but at the same time you dont want constipation . I had to cut my stool softener and laxatives right back , and aim for a diet that avoided constipation , up until I had my painkillers changed . Might be worth mentioning to your GP . Many people on here that I have talked with have been through hell with pain after the ops , but you will get better . It takes time , and feeling down is so common . Keep your chin up , and just know that there is light at the end of it all .
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    Thanks Steve and Sorebutt! I've managed some porridge now and had a sleep which obviously helps a great deal. Now slightly nervous of first BM since stopping laxative but it's there waiting in case I need to with lesser dose of 15ml. If don't hear back from consultant and doesn't improve will contact my GP for advice. Thank you. smile
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      Currently sat in recovery after THD..not sure of the exact details yet as I haven't seen the surgeon. Good but of discomfort but not horrendous. Can feel a bump in the outside though that wasn't there before..will wait till I can walk and have a proper look..fingers crossed all goes ok
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      Ok..managed to pee.. Just inspected and I can see what looks like some hems on the right but they are black! Not there before the surgery..is the the gems dying as they have no blood flow?? Pain wise feel ok..bit uncomfortable but not too bad
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      Ok..managed to pee.. Just inspected and I can see what looks like some hems on the right but they are black! Not there before the surgery..is the the gems dying as they have no blood flow?? Pain wise feel ok..bit uncomfortable but not too bad
    • Posted

      That could well be what they are Kendogs . Not unusual to have stuff on the outside , that used to be on the inside , after an op . Good luck . 
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      Yeah quite extreme to be honest . I was referred back into hospital 4 times after my last op , and the last time they kept me in for 5 days . They wanted to examine me , but the bruising was so severe that they could not even touch me . Took a month before they got me back in and put me back in theatre under GA to see what was going on . When I went in before op , I had managed to control my haemhorrhoids with diet and changing my sitting position on toilet , and things were going fine , no external lumps . Aftern the op I couldnt believe that I came out with external lumps . They called them skin tags , personally I call them haemorrhoids

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