New to LS - start here
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Below are various resources for Lichen Sclerosus from leaflets to useful web sites and recommended discussions. You may wish to reply to this discussion as a way of introducing yourself to other forum members and giving a brief history of your situation.
There is a patient leaflet on LS here which also has related tabs with more information, support groups etc.
https://patient.info/health/lichen-sclerosus-leaflet
Below are other useful websites:
http://www.lichensclerosus.net/ - Information to help manage LS
http://www.lichensclerosustreatment.com/ - webinar from Dr Goldstein. Lichen Sclerosus The Unspoken Pain
http://caredownthere.com.au/ CareDownThere is written by a team of Australian Health Professionals with special expertise in treating vulval disease.
http://lichensclerosus.org/ The Association for Lichen Sclerosus and Vulval Health
Includes a page of Men only discussion - http://lichensclerosus.org/men-only-2/
http://www.bssvd.org/ British Society for the Study of Vulval Disease
This includes a "Find a clinic" service. The full list is here:http://www.bssvd.org/images/stories/documents/database%20of%20members%20of%20vulval%20service%20edited.pdf
Discussion on users' thoughts on causes of LS
https://patient.info/forums/discuss/causes-of-lichen-sclerosus--271583
Other discussion groups that may have relevant discussions to LS:
https://patient.info/forums/discuss/browse/alternative-and-complementary-medicine-3763
https://patient.info/forums/discuss/browse/autoimmune-disorders-3827
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lisa45239 Emis_Moderator
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Hi I have just been told I have LS
And feel very scared. So glad I found this site as my husband is trying to be unstanding
But says he doesn't want to know about it or talk about it
I am 51 I wanted to ask does it get worse
At the moment it is really painful to have sex and afterwards I am cut and very sore
I have never typed before on a chat I am very new to computers so hope I have done this right ha
Thank you
Nancy_K_B lisa45239
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lisa45239 Nancy_K_B
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Hi Nancy
thanks for your reply I have only just see it as I said I am not very good on computers but I am fast getting the hang of it ha .
This site is priceless and everyone so helpful I have learnt so much
I have just started using epaderm ointment at the moment it is working
I have changed my diet I always thought I was already eating healthy
but I now look at everything no sugar
Having a organic veg and fruit box
I just keep reading thanks again I now don't feel so isolated
sandralynn Emis_Moderator
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hello, so glad to find a group who share LS, although its a group I'm sure we all wish we were not part of.i am a 63 year old woman, i was diagnosed,in 2009, after a very long time of being told i was pre menopausal and it was vaginal dryness. by then i had little trust in the drs and their advice and the emotional part of this was overwhelming. i took the medication to no avail..finally i went back and was told i required a perineorrhapy. i had this in 2010. the follow up and care was unkind, which increased my desire to hide again.
i did this for a year or so until my LS was really increasing in severity..
finally out of desperation, as my GP, as informed as he was was unable to find me someone who could assist me, i discovered a specialist in Toronto at Sunnybrook hospital. after a few months of getting the LS under control i had another Periophony and a laser vapourization to remove scar tissue, i believe this was 2012.
since then by using the Clobestesol and the vagifem i have kept it under control with a few set backs. i recently felt there had been another change in the vagina/rectum and had a biopsy to see if i had vulvar cancer, thank god i didnt. LS is really providing me time for reflection. this condition is so such a roller coaster ride, i wonder if others have the same feelings. i have not been able to have intercourse for 10 years with my husband , who i think is scared of my vagina after all its been thru. at a time when intimacy is so appreciated. when i go to the dr they are concerned with the physical issues yet i am ready to cry about how this affects my discomfort in life both physically and emotionally.
i also wonder if anyone has done a study to see if this is in anyway a result of sexual abuse, which i suffered as a child and then again as a young teenager, is this traumatized tissue?
your posts have made me feel i am not alone and look forward to further discussion and support.
Hot2trot sandralynn
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Hi Sandra, try rubbing just plain cheap olive oil inside your vagina as high up as comfortable around your clit as well, (l keep an egg cup of oil in the toilet) rub the oil inside and outside the lips as well do this EVERY TIME you go to the toilet and you should find a huge improvement within a few days. I'm 63 and I was diagnised with LS 10 years ago and l did everything the the gyro told to do and nothing worked, l was in continual agony with itching burning and continual ulcers and swelling. Out of sheer desperation l stopped using the creams as they were not working and started appyling the olive oil To the entire vaginal area inside and out and within a few days the burning, itching and swelling had disappeared completely, within three months 90% of the white patches had disappeared and 90% of the scar tissue had disappeared as well the skin tissue iknows now a soft pink colour with no dryness or itching and NO inflammation at all. I stopped using ALL the creams when l first started using the oil so it's not a combination of both its purely the oil, when you use it gently pat dry the outside of the lips but leave a little bit there to keep the area moisturized. My gyno was so impressed that he is documenting my process and has also now started other LS suffering patients on this as well... Now something you will find very helpful is that after three months of starting to use the oil l was able to enjoy a normal healthy pain free sex life again about three times a week with no issues as now the vaginal skin tissue stretches and does no longer tear there is NO longer scar tissue restricting the vaginal opening and the vaginal opening has now returned to its normal former size, just remember to use plenty of lube as you would normally use for someone of our age. Give it a try you have nothing to lose and everything to gain 😁 Barb
Nancy_K_B Hot2trot
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Hot2trot Nancy_K_B
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No problems Nancy, l personally cannot believe the difference a little olive oil has made to my life and if it can and has helped others all the better. It's cheap and is easy to apply and importantly it works, no script needed 😊
sandralynn Hot2trot
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Techlady sandralynn
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I see some similarities between you and me. I suffered the same abuse as a young child and again as a teenager, so I wonder if there is a connection.
I'm also in the GTA - was the specialist at Sunnybrook worth seeing? I'm waiting to see a gynecologist.
sandralynn Techlady
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Techlady Emis_Moderator
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I'm newly diagnosed and a bit freaked out. I'm 61 and had a complete hysterectomy at 48. Not on any hormone therapy. I have been very sore in anal / labia area and nothing I tried was working. I thought it was hemorrhoids, so used Preparation H. Nada. I thought maybe it was a yeast infection - so bought some Monistat - made it worse. The skin has split above my clitoris, and polysporin didn't help.
History: I have a tendency to get cysts in that area and have had many removed when I was younger. I developed one on the back of my left butt cheek crease. Doctor prescribed Fucidin cream. I had a few at the top of my right leg (a cluster almost) - doctor prescribed Lamisil cream. Both are antifungal. The last cream helped but didn't clear them up so I continued to use it for 2 tubes. Finally one day the cysts seemed to burst (nasty) and seemed to go away. The itchiness did not. I used a powder of cornstarch and calamine to reduce the sweating - it helped a bit. I washed frequently and tried to keep the area dry. I tried to wash with a soap that contained tea tree oil - it burned so I stopped. I ended up just using a non-soap, ph neutral wash. I tried to use a barrier cream to protect it so it could heal (didn't help).
I have other sensitivities - to many drugs and chemicals that seemed to be getting worse. I had to give up dairy completely because of skin issues. Flouride made my gums bleed. Even dish soap irritated my skin. I switched to a plant-based laundry soap but I think it was already too late.
I saw a different doctor today, she took one look and said it was LS. She prescribed Clobetasol but told me to use it sparingly once a day for 4 days but stop as soon as I feel relief and only use it once a week for maintenance. She is sending me to a gynecologist.
Part of why I didn't notice an issue sooner is because I've been prone to itchy down there for most of my adult life. I also have IBS, sometimes hemorrhoids (and they can be itchy). A colonoscopy a few years ago found 8 large pre-cancerous polyps, and I am scheduled for another. I may have an anal fissure.
I will find a way to deal with this. I had osteoporosis and moved my numbers into the normal range without drugs. I used to be sick all the time (colds, flu, pneumonia) but I haven't had any of that for the past 13 years - strong immune system. I have high cholesterol but can't tolerate any cholesterol lowering medications.
I don't know if autoimmune disorders are hereditary but my daughter has vitiligo which is also an AI disorder.
I will listen to any and all advice - I've already read a lot here (thank you all so much!) and I will try anything and everything. I see so many commonalities with what others have posted. I'm so grateful to have found this site.
pat0423 Emis_Moderator
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I’ll use this pre-made intro, thank you!
Just had first appointment today, referred out to obgyn and an rx for clobetasol.
How long have you had a diagnosis of LS? Age 57
Do you suspect that you have had this for much longer? A couple years
Is it currently under control? God no!
When did the irritation start? Months -2 yrs
Has the area always been irritable? No
Are you suffering a flare at the moment? Yes
If so, can you attribute the cause to anything specific? Stress & untreated until today
Do you suspect that other members of your family may have had/have LS? Yes, my mom
Do you have any other skin conditions along with the LS? No
Describe your skin type: Mix of light & olive
Do you suffer from an autoimmune disorder e.g. rheumatoid Arthritus/Crohn’s/please add …? Yes, Ankylosing Spondylitis
Have you been tested for high cholesterol? No
Do you suffer from high blood pressure? No, mine is low
Statins? N/A
Diet and exercise? Working on diet
Do you suffer from high blood pressure? No
If so are you being treated for this? N/A
Do you suffer from low blood pressure? No
If so are you being treated for this? N/A
Do you suffer from anxiety? Yes, crushing anxiety
Have you taken steps to reduce your stress? Yes, for fifteen years
If so what have you done? Meditation, Yoga, mindfulness, prayer
Do you have a flare-up of LS if something is causing you stress? Yes! It’s immediate!
Have you had surgery related to LS? No
Biopsy: No
& hope I don’t have to! 😰
Have you experienced other surgery? No, hysteroscopy in 2005
Episiotomy: Yes
Please list any of the prescribed topical creams you use currently
Clobetasol (just started today-immediate relief)
Emollients:
Coconut oil
Coconut oil with rso
Jojoba oil
Avocado oil
Barrier creams: no
Alternative treatments: No
What sort of products do you avoid when cleaning the area? Soap, scents
When do you wash? Shower in the morning
How do you dry yourself? Towel or blow dry on cool
Do you wash in hot or cold water? Warm
Do you dread having a poo? No What happens? N/A
Does pee sting you? Sometimes
What can you no longer wear? Tight pants
What do you now wear? Loose cotton panties, loose trousers (looser at home)
Do any foods seem to make the LS worse? Not sure
Is this discomfort on already damaged skin? Yes but only damaged from the LS I think
Thanks for being here.
robyn00000 Emis_Moderator
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I was diagnosed with LS about 8 weeks ago. I had been seeing pelvic medical centre specialist following pelvic surgery I had eight months ago. I thought I had recurrent thrush, but now I know it is LS and has been coming on for the past 5 months.
To my great good fortune, my specialist gave me a wound dressing ointment called
Strata XRT which has been used on burns for a long time and is currently being trialled on LS . It has transformed my symptoms radically in just 6 weeks, I have read many posts from people suffering with LS and just want to share this information. I am feeling so much better and my doctor is hopeful that a full recovery is possible for me.
suzie37971 Emis_Moderator
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Although suspect i have had it for years.
Scared and sad as my life is changing for the better although i have to say i think the stress i have been going through has been a contributor.
I have exzema and hay fever and i am a freckled complexion.
I have always suffered with perfumes and strong creams so avoid like the plague.
I do not suffer from high blood pressure or weght issues and i am very active.
I do take HRT now this is recent and high dose antihistamine always due to all my allergies.
I am physically fit and very active as recently re trained as a Therapist .
Devastated re sex life as i do not want to due to the pain ect .
Can anyone tell me please does it go into remission at all ?
Thank you Suzie xx
robyn00000 suzie37971
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You might like to read my post above (4 days ago). I am so much better, not in remission yet although my Dr is hopeful I will. He advised me to be patient and suggested 4-6 months for full recovery, the magic ointment is Strata XRT, my symptoms have improved by 50% in 6 weeks. I too think stress may have been a big factor. Best wishes for you to fell better soon , Robyn x
suzie37971 robyn00000
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Do you get this on perscription only ?
robyn00000 suzie37971
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Hi Suzie,
i think you can buy it online., see the website above. My doctor is giving it to me when I see him as I am part of a trial using Strata XRT on LS. Strata XRT has been used on radiation burns for a long time and now they have realised it’s benefits for LS too, so are doing clinical trials. Mr Dr says he is seeing amazing results from his other patients too.
A little goes goes a long way. Just a small amount spreads easily, he recommends I use 6 times a day(easy to remember if you keep in your bathroom/toilet) and at bedtime too.
good luck, I hope you are feeling better soon xo
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suzie37971 robyn00000
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Hi Robyn do you mind private messaging me with the link please xxx
Yes i have read about it since you mentioned it sounds very hopeful 🤗😘