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Below are various resources for Lichen Sclerosus from leaflets to useful web sites and recommended discussions. You may wish to reply to this discussion as a way of introducing yourself to other forum members and giving a brief history of your situation.

There is a patient leaflet on LS here which also has related tabs with more information, support groups etc.

https://patient.info/health/lichen-sclerosus-leaflet

Below are other useful websites:

http://www.lichensclerosus.net/ - Information to help manage LS

http://www.lichensclerosustreatment.com/ - webinar from Dr Goldstein. Lichen Sclerosus The Unspoken Pain

http://caredownthere.com.au/ CareDownThere is written by a team of Australian Health Professionals with special expertise in treating vulval disease.

http://lichensclerosus.org/ The Association for Lichen Sclerosus and Vulval Health

Includes a page of Men only discussion - http://lichensclerosus.org/men-only-2/

http://www.bssvd.org/ British Society for the Study of Vulval Disease

This includes a "Find a clinic" service. The full list is here:http://www.bssvd.org/images/stories/documents/database%20of%20members%20of%20vulval%20service%20edited.pdf

Discussion on users' thoughts on causes of LS

https://patient.info/forums/discuss/causes-of-lichen-sclerosus--271583

Other discussion groups that may have relevant discussions to LS:

https://patient.info/forums/discuss/browse/alternative-and-complementary-medicine-3763

https://patient.info/forums/discuss/browse/autoimmune-disorders-3827

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    Hi I have just been told I have LS

    And feel very scared. So glad I found this site as my husband is trying to be unstanding

    But says he doesn't want to know about it or talk about it

    I am 51 I wanted to ask does it get worse

    At the moment it is really painful to have sex and afterwards I am cut and very sore

    I have never typed before on a chat I am very new to computers so hope I have done this right ha

    Thank you

    • Posted

      Hi Lisa so sorry for your situationBut there are many suggestions from others here who have helped my own sanity the last three months.... it wis fixable really. Some swear by giving up sugar, and or all gluten and a couple mentioned vitamin D3, MSM, and other supplements. I researched those nutritional solutions very carefully and have almost completely got this autoimmune situation under control now.  For me personally it definitely took 10,000 it of vitamin D3 daily to rebalance me. So please do read as much here as you canto gets good idea of what you can do.  Oh! Definitely try out castor oil externally for comfort as well as coconut oil for lubrication. 
    • Posted

      Hi Nancy

      thanks for your reply I have only just see it as I said I am not very good on computers but I am fast getting the hang of it ha .

      This site is priceless and everyone so helpful  I have learnt so much 

      I have just started using epaderm ointment at the moment it is working

      I have changed my diet I always thought I was already eating healthy 

      but I now look at everything no sugar 

      Having a organic veg and fruit box 

      I just keep reading thanks again I now don't feel so isolated 

  • Posted

    hello, so glad to find a group who share LS, although its a group I'm sure we all wish we were not part of.i am a 63 year old woman, i was diagnosed,in 2009, after a very long time of being told i was pre menopausal and it was vaginal dryness. by then i had little trust in the drs and their advice and the emotional part of this was overwhelming. i took the medication to no avail..finally i went back and was told i required a perineorrhapy. i had this in 2010. the follow up and care was unkind, which increased my desire to hide again. 

    i did this for a year or so until my LS was really increasing in severity..

    finally out of desperation, as my GP, as informed as he was was unable to find me someone who could assist me, i discovered a specialist in Toronto at Sunnybrook hospital. after a few months of getting the LS under control i had another Periophony and a laser vapourization to remove scar tissue, i believe this was 2012.

    since then by using the Clobestesol and the vagifem i have kept it under  control with a few set backs. i recently felt there had been another change in the vagina/rectum and had a biopsy to see if i had vulvar cancer, thank god i didnt.  LS is really providing me time for reflection. this condition is so such a roller coaster ride, i wonder if others have the same feelings. i have not been able to have intercourse for 10 years with my husband , who i think is scared of my vagina after all its been thru. at a time when intimacy is so appreciated. when i go to the dr they are concerned with the physical issues yet i am ready to cry about how this affects my discomfort in life both physically and emotionally. 

    i also wonder if anyone has done a study to see if this is in anyway a result of sexual abuse, which i suffered as a  child and then again as a young teenager, is this traumatized tissue? 

    your posts have made me feel i am not alone and look forward to further discussion and support.

    • Posted

      Hi Sandra, try rubbing just plain cheap olive oil inside your vagina as high up as comfortable around your clit as well, (l keep an egg cup of oil in the toilet) rub the oil inside and outside the lips as well do this EVERY TIME you go to the toilet and you should find a huge improvement within a few days. I'm 63 and I was diagnised with LS 10 years ago and l did everything the the gyro told to do and nothing worked, l was in continual agony with itching burning and continual ulcers and swelling. Out of sheer desperation l stopped using the creams as they were not working and started appyling the olive oil To the entire vaginal area inside and out and within a few days the burning, itching and swelling had disappeared completely, within three months 90% of the white patches had disappeared and 90% of the scar tissue had disappeared as well the skin tissue iknows now a soft pink colour with no dryness or itching and NO inflammation at all. I stopped using ALL the creams when l first started using the oil so it's not a combination of both its purely the oil, when you use it gently pat dry the outside of the lips but leave a little bit there to keep the area moisturized. My gyno was so impressed that he is documenting my process and has also now started other LS suffering patients on this as well... Now something you will find very helpful is that after three months of starting to use the oil l was able to enjoy a normal healthy pain free sex life again about three times a week with no issues as now the vaginal skin tissue stretches and does no longer tear there is NO longer scar tissue restricting the vaginal opening and the vaginal opening has now returned to its normal former size, just remember to use plenty of lube as you would normally use for someone of our age. Give it a try you have nothing to lose and everything to gain 😁 Barb

    • Posted

      very wonderful... So glad you monitored your progress!  thanks  
    • Posted

      No problems Nancy, l personally cannot believe the difference a little olive oil has made to my life and if it can and has helped others all the better. It's cheap and is easy to apply and importantly it works, no script needed 😊

    • Posted

      thank you for sharing. I have tried coconut oil in the past. I shall try the olive oil and keep at it this time.
    • Posted

      I see some similarities between you and me. I suffered the same abuse as a young child and again as a teenager, so I wonder if there is a connection.

      I'm also in the GTA - was the specialist at Sunnybrook worth seeing? I'm waiting to see a gynecologist. 

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      dr shier at Sunnybrook was definitely worth seeing. he did my second surgery and was able to fix the first. he told me he was one of two Dr in the world that do the laser vaporization. both my sister in laws are Drs in GTA and they found him when I was really getting desperate. my GP is excellent but did not know what else to do for me.
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    I'm newly diagnosed and a bit freaked out. I'm 61 and had a complete hysterectomy at 48. Not on any hormone therapy. I have been very sore in anal / labia area and nothing I tried was working. I thought it was hemorrhoids, so used Preparation H. Nada. I thought maybe it was a yeast infection - so bought some Monistat - made it worse. The skin has split above my clitoris, and polysporin didn't help.

    History: I have a tendency to get cysts in that area and have had many removed when I was younger. I developed one on the back of my left butt cheek crease. Doctor prescribed Fucidin cream. I had a few at the top of my right leg (a cluster almost) - doctor prescribed Lamisil cream. Both are antifungal. The last cream helped but didn't clear them up so I continued to use it for 2 tubes. Finally one day the cysts seemed to burst (nasty) and seemed to go away. The itchiness did not. I used a powder of cornstarch and calamine to reduce the sweating - it helped a bit. I washed frequently and tried to keep the area dry. I tried to wash with a soap that contained tea tree oil - it burned so I stopped. I ended up just using a non-soap, ph neutral wash. I tried to use a barrier cream to protect it so it could heal (didn't help).

    I have other sensitivities - to many drugs and chemicals that seemed to be getting worse. I had to give up dairy completely because of skin issues. Flouride made my gums bleed. Even dish soap irritated my skin. I switched to a plant-based laundry soap but I think it was already too late.

    I saw a different doctor today, she took one look and said it was LS. She prescribed Clobetasol but told me to use it sparingly once a day for 4 days but stop as soon as I feel relief and only use it once a week for maintenance. She is sending me to a gynecologist. 

    Part of why I didn't notice an issue sooner is because I've been prone to itchy down there for most of my adult life. I also have IBS, sometimes hemorrhoids (and they can be itchy). A colonoscopy a few years ago found 8 large pre-cancerous polyps, and I am scheduled for another. I may have an anal fissure

    I will find a way to deal with this. I had osteoporosis and moved my numbers into the normal range without drugs. I used to be sick all the time (colds, flu, pneumonia) but I haven't had any of that for the past 13 years - strong immune system. I have high cholesterol but can't tolerate any cholesterol lowering medications. 

    I don't know if autoimmune disorders are hereditary but my daughter has vitiligo which is also an AI disorder. 

    I will listen to any and all advice - I've already read a lot here (thank you all so much!) and I will try anything and everything. I see so many commonalities with what others have posted. I'm so grateful to have found this site. 

  • Posted

    I’ll use this pre-made intro, thank you!

    Just had first appointment today, referred out to obgyn and an rx for clobetasol. 

    How long have you had a diagnosis of LS? Age 57

    Do you suspect that you have had this for much longer? A couple years

    Is it currently under control? God no!

    When did the irritation start?  Months -2 yrs

    Has the area always been irritable? No

    Are you suffering a flare at the moment? Yes

    If so, can you attribute the cause to anything specific?  Stress & untreated until today

    Do you suspect that other members of your family may have had/have LS? Yes, my mom

    Do you have any other skin conditions along with the LS?  No

    Describe your skin type: Mix of light & olive

    Do you suffer from an autoimmune disorder e.g. rheumatoid Arthritus/Crohn’s/please add …?  Yes, Ankylosing Spondylitis 

    Have you been tested for high cholesterol? No

    Do you suffer from high blood pressure? No, mine is low

    Statins? N/A

    Diet and exercise? Working on diet

    Do you suffer from high blood pressure? No

    If so are you being treated for this? N/A

    Do you suffer from low blood pressure? No

    If so are you being treated for this? N/A

    Do you suffer from anxiety? Yes, crushing anxiety 

    Have you taken steps to reduce your stress? Yes, for fifteen years

    If so what have you done? Meditation, Yoga, mindfulness, prayer

    Do you have a flare-up of LS if something is causing you stress? Yes! It’s immediate!

    Have you had surgery related to LS? No

    Biopsy: No

    & hope I don’t have to! 😰

    Have you experienced other surgery? No, hysteroscopy in 2005

    Episiotomy: Yes

    Please list any of the prescribed topical creams you use currently

     Clobetasol (just started today-immediate relief)

    Emollients: 

    Coconut oil

    Coconut oil with rso

    Jojoba oil

    Avocado oil

    Barrier creams: no

    Alternative treatments: No

    What sort of products do you avoid when cleaning the area? Soap, scents

    When do you wash? Shower in the morning 

    How do you dry yourself? Towel or blow dry on cool

    Do you wash in hot or cold water? Warm

    Do you dread having a poo? No What happens? N/A

    Does pee sting you? Sometimes 

    What can you no longer wear? Tight pants

    What do you now wear? Loose cotton panties, loose trousers (looser at home)

    Do any foods seem to make the LS worse?  Not sure

    Is this discomfort on already damaged skin?  Yes but only damaged from the LS I think 

    Thanks for being here. 

  • Posted

    Hello,

    I was diagnosed with LS about 8 weeks ago. I had been seeing pelvic medical centre specialist  following pelvic surgery I had eight months ago.  I thought I had recurrent thrush, but now I know it is LS and has been coming on for the past 5 months.

    To my great good  fortune, my specialist gave me  a wound  dressing ointment called

    Strata XRT which has been used on burns for a long time and is currently being trialled on LS . It has transformed my symptoms radically in just 6 weeks,  I have read many posts from people suffering with LS and just want to share this information. I am feeling so much better and my doctor is hopeful that a full recovery is possible for me.

     

  • Posted

    Hi i am 56 just diagnosed with LS 

    Although suspect i have had it for years.

    Scared and sad as my life is changing for the better although i have to say i think the stress i have been going through has been a contributor.

    I have exzema and hay fever and i am a freckled complexion.

    I have always suffered with perfumes and strong creams so avoid like the plague.

    I do not suffer from high blood pressure or weght issues and i am very active.

    I do take HRT now this is recent and high dose antihistamine always due to all my allergies.

    I am physically fit and very active as recently re trained as a Therapist .

    Devastated re sex life as i do not want to due to the pain ect .

    Can anyone tell me please does it go into remission at all ? 

    Thank you Suzie xx

    • Posted

      Dear Suzie, 

      You might like to read my post above (4 days ago). I am so much better, not in remission yet although my Dr is hopeful I will. He advised me to be patient and suggested 4-6 months for full recovery,  the magic ointment  is Strata XRT, my symptoms have improved by 50% in 6 weeks.   I too think stress may have been a big factor. Best wishes for you to fell better soon , Robyn x

    • Posted

      Thank you Robyn , you have iven me hope .

      Do you get this on perscription only ?

    • Posted

      Hi Suzie,

      i think you can buy it online., see the website above.  My doctor is giving it to me when I see him as I am part of a trial using Strata XRT on LS.  Strata XRT has been used on radiation burns for a long time and now they have realised it’s benefits for LS too, so are doing clinical trials.   Mr Dr says he is seeing amazing results from his other patients too. 

      A little goes goes a long way.  Just a small amount spreads easily, he recommends I use 6 times a day(easy to remember if you keep in your bathroom/toilet)  and at bedtime too.

      good luck, I hope you are feeling better soon xo 

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    • Posted

      Hi Robyn do you mind private messaging me with the link please xxx

      Yes i have read about it since you mentioned it sounds very hopeful 🤗😘

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