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Why is Zopiclone so awful

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jacqueline01135
jacqueline01135

Will somebody tell me the reason for the hysterical comments, and hate

campaign against this sleeping tablet . Please don't tell me to read 

yards of stuff on different forums and sites, What is so bad  about it. .

I get sleep, and nothing else, (thankfully ). 

It can't be so bad ,some people have used it for years,so they say, 

So, no yelling or shouting, or soap box attitudes, just tell me, nicely,

what it's all about  ..

 

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  • scaramonga
    scaramonga jacqueline01135

    Posted

    Hi Jacs smile

    Glad you are getting some good sleep, but that will soon wear off, believe me. Don't go thinking one night that, if you take an 'extra tablet', that it will make you sleep better either, I fell into that trap a few times, and I'm glad it was just a few.

    You don't say how long you have been on them?  For your sake, I hope not long, as you may have time to progress to something much better for your health, in the long run, without the terrible damage these things are doing to people.

    I won't preach, as they were good for me at the time, but by god, do I wish I had never taken them to begin with.  Had I known what I know now, then this drug would never have entered my system.

    Most doctors will not prescribe them now, and I know this from speaking to my own GP, who recently went on a refresh course to highlight the dangers of these drugs.

    Good luck for when you don't need them, and I hope the transition will be painless for you.

    Best wishes.

    • jacqueline01135
      jacqueline01135 scaramonga

      Posted

      Thank you for your concern, but I assure you ,I only take one 3,75

      which kicks the Philharmonic orchestra into touch and gives me sleep.

      Tinnitus is incurable,and the noise is constant, and ,as you may be 

      able to imagine ,very loud  in a quiet atmosphere of a bed room 

      Some suffers have been known to commit suicide because of the

      relentless noise, so, I am grateful to Zopiclone in that respect.

      I did ask what awful things this drug physically, but as yet no one

      has come up with an answer ,just the same comment ""Addictive ""  

  • craig137
    craig137 jacqueline01135

    Posted

    You seem angry Jacqueline  looking for a fight, Zopiclone is working for you. It doesn't for all, hence the thread. This is where people come to talk, without being belittled for something that is causing THEM the problems. Decorum amd compassion goes along way.
    • jacqueline01135
      jacqueline01135 craig137

      Posted

      Wrong end of the stick craig, not angry or looking for a punch up, just defending a product which, as you say , helps some and not others as is the case with most prescription drugs. If people don't get better , the 

      doctor or the drugs get blamed. Most of the people on this forum have

      admitted they have taken more than the prescribed dose and are 

      suffering the consequences. of  withdrawal ,  Don't know why you 

      are so incensced with the flow of this forum It's for both sides of an 

      issue .Calm down ,take a pill.Give your  opinions ,some will agree,

      others won't. 

    • craig137
      craig137 jacqueline01135

      Posted

      I agree with you., and yelot of people add an extra pill then another and so. This is a slippery slope.  I'm not incensed at all. However I find your comment "take a pill" as offensive and I'll end this post with your own words literally. It's for both sides of an issue .Calm down ,.Give your  opinions ,some will agree,

      others won't. 

    • jacqueline01135
      jacqueline01135 craig137

      Posted

      Goodness me ,this will teach me NOT to ask questions . It has ,

      nevertheless been interesting, Good job Iv'e got broad shoulders.

      figuratively speaking.  Such a lot of angry people .and for what. 

  • jimdandy
    jimdandy jacqueline01135

    Posted

    Hi Jacqueline

    There is quite a bit of hysteria about Zopiclone. I have taken it for 16 years, and so far no dementia or anything else.

    But it is habit forming, and if you try to sleep without it, it is poor quality sleep, if any sleep at all.  

    The issue is, for some people it is no problem, but it does seem cause those with anxieties, other issues, depression, to get worse and then be inclined to increase the dosage.  Then those people can really get very mentally disturbed, psychotic and so on.

    I view it like alcohol really. Most people can take it, some people overdo it and have problems and a few become alcoholics.  The same for these tablets.

    Jim 

    • jacqueline01135
      jacqueline01135 jimdandy

      Posted

      Hello Jim, nice of you to reply.  I started this site to simply ask a 

      a question ,and I feel hounded like a lynch mob. which seems to prove your theory about depression and snowballing into greater problems.

      I use the lowest dose to help me fall asleep ,because of the noise that Tinnitus throws out. There is no cure, as yet ,but I can't spend

      the rest of my life,  sleepless, it doesn't bear thinking about.

      Rather than being stressed about what "Might" happen, might

      happens affect every one of us somewhere along the line. Sleep 

      is paramount to our health, 

      You are an exellent example, of it not causing harm ,That makes

      two of us in the club !!!!!!

      Jacqueline 

       

  • scaramonga
    scaramonga jacqueline01135

    Posted

    The crux of the situation is this.

    Zoplicone is not meant to be prescribed 'long term'.  It is a drug that is supposed to be used as a 'quick fix' for short term problems, and certainly not intended for years of use.  

    Now we can lay the blame at the doctors who ask if 'all is ok', and one says 'yes', so the prescription repeats and the years pass by, or we can blame the user, who just goes with the flow, or both?

    Regardless.  I'm of the opinion that these kind of drugs should be more closely monitored, at patient level, and those prescribing them.  Its all too easy to get into a 'routine' with anything, as long as it works, and its doing its job.  That goes both ways, as in, the GP is happy - your happy, and why not?, after all, its their job.

    Society is a strange thing now, and as long as the wheels are greased and turning, no one is going to question the wear of them, until they stop wink

    • jacqueline01135
      jacqueline01135 scaramonga

      Posted

      I am in total agreement with you ,but, there are always buts in a 

      discussion,

      doctors are in a situation, where refusing a drug could .cause a 

      situation ,and patients turn nasty and doctors,quite rightly ,don't

      want or need this to happen.so, they presribe it.or whatever drug

      is being demanded  I think the doctor/patient relationship has 

      changed over the years,and with computers coming on the scene

      patients now tell doctors their symptoms, and the drugs

       required. I don't know if there is a similar drug to Zopiclone, but

      people do need sleep, and without it ,can become angry and 

      aggressive ,wether this is due to the content of the drug,or a

      natural reaction of being deprived .Choc-o-holics don't show these

      symptoms,and no one tells them to stop,I suppose cigarettes and alcohol fall into the same bucket of  addiction but they are not on prescription.Probably the only way to monitor Zop, is to remove it

      totally.but people would turn to the internet to buy it, so, it's a no

      win situation.

      I had 7 hours of sleep last night, really did need the Zop, the

      Tinnitus was a full orchestra frown

    • Effortly
      Effortly jacqueline01135

      Posted

      When I ran out of zopiclone for 5 days, not having the time for a renewal, I experienced pre-seizure symptoms, which I have had twice before due to a previous stroke. When I started zopiclone again the symptoms disappeared. I'm on lamotrigine to stop the seizures now. I take 5mg of zopiclone and 35mg of mirtazapine every night, works great for me! I realize now that I must be addicted, but it's the lesser of two evils? The seizures were very traumatic and I don't want one again, so it's zopiclone I guess?
    • jacqueline01135
      jacqueline01135 Effortly

      Posted

      Did your G.P suggest the M/pine as a good alternative to Zop ?  I might

      ask my  G.P about them. Can't say if I am addicted, I take one a night 

      and  feel normal in the mornings, but I only take the smallest dose. 

      Does your doctor give you a few in hand so you don't have to worry 

      about running out . Can't see anything evil about a good night's sleep

    • craig137
      craig137 jacqueline01135

      Posted

      I take 15mg of Mitazipine nightly they have a slight sedating effect almost identical to amytriptline (have you tried amytripiline?) . I had to cut back from 30mg because i was having horrific nightmares (one of their "rare" side effects) Im talking dreams that left me extremely disturbed upon waking. My gp and i spoke and got round the problem by dropping back down to 15mg mitazipine at night and doubled my dose of Sertraline to 100mg in the morning problem solved.
    • jacqueline01135
      jacqueline01135 craig137

      Posted

      Hello ----you are an early riser ,like myself, mines out  years of having to get up to see to the horses before going to work. So I now have a coffee in bed, Fairly new to this sleeping pill club. I just asked for something to send me off, and was given Zop. that's about 18 months ago ,it never occurred to me that there were  other types ,probably

      because they did what it said "on the tin" ,so I had no reason to find

      another one .My body has an automatic pill rejection of most drugs

      but seemed happy with this one. So ,I.m off to Doncaster racecourse

      to an antiques fair, looks like a wellie job 

       

    • craig137
      craig137 jacqueline01135

      Posted

      morning Jac

      ​Better take a brollie too cause your gonna get weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet lol. There are quite a few sedating anti d's amityptiline, sertraline fluxetine. Also a similar drug to zop is  zolpiderm better known as ambien. Have fun at the fair try to stay dry (NOT)

    • jacqueline01135
      jacqueline01135 craig137

      Posted

      The home where my mother is staying has just phoned to say she has

      been taken to hospital, so , no fair, just the A&E   

    • craig137
      craig137 jacqueline01135

      Posted

      oh no hope everything is ok keep me informed. I'll keep you both in my thoughts today
    • jacqueline01135
      jacqueline01135 craig137

      Posted

      Thanks Craig, but it seems it is bad this time, Drugs again ,I told the G.P

      who visits the home not to give a certain drug,which he totally ignored and prescribed it, and mother has rapidly gone down hill since.and now it is snowing !!!

    • lee91099
      lee91099 craig137

      Posted

      Thanks for your input Craig 137 I suffer really bad nightmares occasionally, maybe the mirtazipine is making them happen or worse. As you said upon waking I'm terribly disturbed by the dream to the point where I have to get up and walk around to make sure I don't slip back into the same dream. I'll discuss my options with my doctor. Thanks for reinforcing my belief that the tablets had something to do with my nightmares I also find I have the same nightmare. Do you find this happens with you.
    • lee91099
      lee91099 jacqueline01135

      Posted

      Well zops didn't come into the options given as I have struggled with addictions to other prescription and none prescription drugs in the past so my options were limited but the mirtazipine work fine I wake up feeling fine, no groginess or chemical taste in my mouth no hangover from them although at first you may feel a bit groggy in the morning it soon passes and after a short period of time (less than a month) you'll get no groginess at all. What craig137 said about nightmares is right but everyone is different and reacts differently to a drug, like you and your Zops you get on with them we're others won't. Make an appointment and discuss it with your doctor. It's my first time on any forum but will deco be using it again, it's been good chatting with you and the others who have inputted.
    • craig137
      craig137 lee91099

      Posted

      no worries just sharing my own exepierences. 30 mg of Mitazipine nearly crippled me. I spoke with Dr and went to 15mg of mitaz then upped my sertraline to 100. Bang no more night mares. There is so much thats not understood on the action of ALL drugs it's no wonder there is so much confusion. Speak to your DR about amytripiline (Elavil) very similar, but no nightmares, and yes I suffered horriffically graphic mares like a SAW movie and sometimes they would repeat like cd stuck on repeat. Jac is also right zopiclone was horrid for me yet zolpiderm (Ambien) worked great. Your mind chemistry is unique to you, your the only one put together the way you are. DR should be first port of call. I would suggest writing down some of the issues your having so you can ask pertinent questions. We're all here for ya mate. smile
    • jacqueline01135
      jacqueline01135 craig137

      Posted

      Hello Craig ,,I'm playing catch up .Mother died ,.My Tinnitus survives and shows NO signs of going. I am still on baby Zop dose, with no side effects, but I do sleep. Time for a chat with my G.P .My stress levels have reduced enormously (mom), so maybe I can use one of your suggested products.

      hope you are well... and happy ??

      Jacqueline 

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