New to LS - start here
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Below are various resources for Lichen Sclerosus from leaflets to useful web sites and recommended discussions. You may wish to reply to this discussion as a way of introducing yourself to other forum members and giving a brief history of your situation.
There is a patient leaflet on LS here which also has related tabs with more information, support groups etc.
https://patient.info/health/lichen-sclerosus-leaflet
Below are other useful websites:
http://www.lichensclerosus.net/ - Information to help manage LS
http://www.lichensclerosustreatment.com/ - webinar from Dr Goldstein. Lichen Sclerosus The Unspoken Pain
http://caredownthere.com.au/ CareDownThere is written by a team of Australian Health Professionals with special expertise in treating vulval disease.
http://lichensclerosus.org/ The Association for Lichen Sclerosus and Vulval Health
Includes a page of Men only discussion - http://lichensclerosus.org/men-only-2/
http://www.bssvd.org/ British Society for the Study of Vulval Disease
This includes a "Find a clinic" service. The full list is here:http://www.bssvd.org/images/stories/documents/database%20of%20members%20of%20vulval%20service%20edited.pdf
Discussion on users' thoughts on causes of LS
https://patient.info/forums/discuss/causes-of-lichen-sclerosus--271583
Other discussion groups that may have relevant discussions to LS:
https://patient.info/forums/discuss/browse/alternative-and-complementary-medicine-3763
https://patient.info/forums/discuss/browse/autoimmune-disorders-3827
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joey118 Emis_Moderator
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After all the research I've done I have a feelings by I'm more on the side of Lichren Plantus or a mix of both. Feeling annoyed and embarrassed about the whole thing. Not something I ever talk about. Just looking for support and some alternatives to steroid creams.
Morrell1951 joey118
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I've had psoriasis all my life. Dermatologists always gave me topical corticosteroids, which I used as little as possible. It always took six months to get an appointment and by then the flare-up had usually cleared. In my late forties I got worried about the possible long-term effects of the creams and stopped them cold turkey. There followed the longest, worst series of flare-ups of my life.
In parallel, from the time I was 22 sex was painful and I suffered frequent yeast infections. No doctor ever mentioned LS. I believe that by my late forties I was starting to atrophy down there. By the time I was diagnosed at age 62 after a ruptured abscess over my clitoris, it was too late for anything but treatment with Dermovate and abstinence from sex.
Not saying one way or the other about your lichen planus theory, but my excellent gynae says LS and psoriasis are 'related'.
lizziewizzie joey118
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i was reading about 'the causes of LS' in a thread that has a link to it at the start...to me examining the cause of anything is vital. There was a woman darkangel who describes what you had...have a read...it may help...i'd be interested to know as it seems like people have been knocking your confidence...and that you could do without all that. i encourage you to think for yourself about what might be going on and to trust your intuition. can you see a 'talking therapist'....? it sounds like there s a lot of repressed stuff going on...as there is for most of us...but hang out here anyway and comment on any of the threads ....plus there's the alternative site too. welcome and lots of love to you from liz. xxxx
clair86 Emis_Moderator
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I finally got to see the dermatologist Friday just gone. Until then I was basically using the cream everyday as it did help, the colour has returned and the itching has calmed right down. The dermatologist had a look and said she could see no signs of LS and told me to stop using the cream. I stopped and already the itching is starting to return!!
I'm feeling really scared and alone. All the information I have had been off the internet. I don't know what to do? I'm pretty sure it's LS but I'm worried that I'm using too much cream. Can anyone help me? Thank you!!
lizziewizzie clair86
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it sounds like the steroid was really working for you...i can't believe i'm saying this as i'm anti steroids but don't stop!! well get a handle on it and then review alternatives perhaps?
please feel supported and re-assured by coming in and joining a thread or starting one. you could copy and paste the above info that you've written already.
colour returning is great news !! xx
annewin Emis_Moderator
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Morrell1951 annewin
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annewin Emis_Moderator
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emmaw73 Emis_Moderator
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Thank you in advance!
Morrell1951 emmaw73
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emmaw73 Morrell1951
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Cyndi72 Emis_Moderator
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I figured I'd do the survey since it was easy, but I'll also add my 'basic' symptoms: Severe itching, redness, patchy vulva, atrophy of the labia minor and I fear the clitoris, as well. No obvious fusion, just atrophy. Just pure discomfort.
How long have you had a diagnosis of LS? Diagnosed about a year ago
Do you suspect that you have had this for much longer? Absolutely longer
Is it currently under control? I thought so until a huge flare up just side lined me this week.
When did the irritation start? Not sure really. If I think back, I can remember having issues my entire adult life.
Has the area always been irritable? Yes. I feel like I'm always 'aware' of my vagina.
Are you suffering a flare at the moment? Yes (June 23, 2105)
If so, can you attribute the cause to anything specific? The only thing I can come up with is the heat and humidity we've been having here lately.
Do you suspect that other members of your family may have had/have LS? Not a clue.
Do you have any other skin conditions along with the LS? Yes: psoriasis
Describe your skin type: Fair but I tan well.
Do you suffer from an autoimmune disorder e.g. rheumatoid Arthritus/Crohn’s/please add …? Yes. Psoriasis and Psoriatic Arthritis
Have you been tested for high cholesterol? Yes. Was a bit high last time it was checked. It shot up due to a medication I had been on.
Do you suffer from high blood pressure? No
Statins? No
Diet and exercise? Relatively healthy diet. Yoga, strength exercises, mild cardio
Do you suffer from high blood pressure? No
If so are you being treated for this? n/a
Do you suffer from low blood pressure? Slightly low
If so are you being treated for this? N/A
Do you suffer from anxiety? Yes
Have you taken steps to reduce your stress? Of course.
If so what have you done? Yoga, rest, drink heavily
Do you have a flare-up of LS if something is causing you stress? I don't think so. A flare up causes me stress.
Have you had surgery related to LS? No
Biopsy: No
Have you experienced other surgery? Nothing related to this.
Episiotomy: No
Please list any of the prescribed topical creams you use currently:Clobetasol
Emollients: None
Barrier creams: None
Alternative treatments: None
What sort of products do you avoid when cleaning the area? I only use water.
When do you wash? In the morning.
How do you dry yourself? Blow dry or pat dry with a clean paper towel.
Do you wash in hot or cold water? Warm
Do you dread having a poo? No What happens? N/A
Does pee sting you? No What do you do about it? N/A
What can you no longer wear? Tight jeans. I don't wear underwear to sleep, either.
What do you now wear? Yoga pants (tight, I know, but not as harsh as jeans), cotton pants, skirts, loose cotton pants or nightgowns to bed.
Do any foods seem to make the LS worse? I don't think so.
Is this discomfort on already damaged skin? Atrophied skin.
sandra01720 Emis_Moderator
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Morrell1951 sandra01720
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sandra01720 Morrell1951
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sandra01720 Morrell1951
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I did ask him about the fact that I read of women who can't have sex anymore. He told me not to read those blogs. Those are worst case and present about 1% of women with LS.
I am devastated to think of not being able to share that with my husband of 23 years. So far have no pain with sex. But my clitoris itches and its on both sides of it.
I'm sorry. I'm just so disturbed by this all.
sandra01720 Morrell1951
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Morrell1951 sandra01720
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sandra01720 Morrell1951
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it doesn't look near as overwhelming as it did when I was googling the disease and read all the nightmare stories and saw the devastating photos. My support people are saying to stop getting info off the web. This forum seems very balanced.
Morrell1951 sandra01720
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And here's something: a tear isn't always a bad thing. I had a tiny one a few weeks ago – it was an adhesion I released by strteching my introitus. And here I'd been thinking I was down to barely two fingers! Now I'm three plus fingers. There's something to be said for regular sex.
sandra01720 Morrell1951
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And I did stop looking at those photos! They are way too disturbing! I am working hard to overcome my anxiety. I realize positive thinking is so helpful toward healing. And things are settling down. Not as much itching, burning has stopped (for now).
Wow! That was a long time to have the disease undiagnosed! So you didn't treat it till you were in your 60s? Did it get worse in menopause? I'm still getting regular periods.
Morrell1951 sandra01720
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