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Below are various resources for Lichen Sclerosus from leaflets to useful web sites and recommended discussions. You may wish to reply to this discussion as a way of introducing yourself to other forum members and giving a brief history of your situation.

There is a patient leaflet on LS here which also has related tabs with more information, support groups etc.

https://patient.info/health/lichen-sclerosus-leaflet

Below are other useful websites:

http://www.lichensclerosus.net/ - Information to help manage LS

http://www.lichensclerosustreatment.com/ - webinar from Dr Goldstein. Lichen Sclerosus The Unspoken Pain

http://caredownthere.com.au/ CareDownThere is written by a team of Australian Health Professionals with special expertise in treating vulval disease.

http://lichensclerosus.org/ The Association for Lichen Sclerosus and Vulval Health

Includes a page of Men only discussion - http://lichensclerosus.org/men-only-2/

http://www.bssvd.org/ British Society for the Study of Vulval Disease

This includes a "Find a clinic" service. The full list is here:http://www.bssvd.org/images/stories/documents/database%20of%20members%20of%20vulval%20service%20edited.pdf

Discussion on users' thoughts on causes of LS

https://patient.info/forums/discuss/causes-of-lichen-sclerosus--271583

Other discussion groups that may have relevant discussions to LS:

https://patient.info/forums/discuss/browse/alternative-and-complementary-medicine-3763

https://patient.info/forums/discuss/browse/autoimmune-disorders-3827

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    I am new to this website and just trying to get the swing of things. Just to give a little babackground. I started having issues with irritation in my scalp at 13. My parents told me it was probably just psoriasis and I would be ok. So I left it. It would flare up and I would scratch til it bled and repeat for several years. Then around age 17 it migrated to a more intimate area. I again talked to my mom who thought I needed more sleep and some lotion would help me out. So I ignored it feeling embarrassed and ashamed. Then at 22 I became pregnant and it went away buts red irritation she we'd up on my nostril area. Not making the connection I was happy it cleared up and thought that my nose was pregnancy mask everyone he talks about. After my son was born it came back and during my second pregnancy when the same thing happened I realized something was up. In early stages of pregnancy it got so irritated I finally swallowed my pride (stupid pride) and went to see Dr. She took one look and said it was Lichren Sclerosis and "what a shame". Way to make me feel relaxed. After my daughter was born my family Dr finally saw me instead of other Drs in the office where he gave me a cream. Upon using the cream it helped my downtown situation. But my nostril area became inflamed and irritated. I went back to Dr to have him tell me there is no link and no he would not refer me to a dermatologist. Then he prescribed a different cream for my nose. Within 3mos that was all cleared up and my ear lobes began to crack. Again went back to get another cream and no referal. Finally after a year if the ear cream not worked by I am awaiting and appointment.

    After all the research I've done I have a feelings by I'm more on the side of Lichren Plantus or a mix of both. Feeling annoyed and embarrassed about the whole thing. Not something I ever talk about. Just looking for support and some alternatives to steroid creams.

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      Hi Joey,

      I've had psoriasis all my life. Dermatologists always gave me topical corticosteroids, which I used as little as possible. It always took six months to get an appointment and by then the flare-up had usually cleared. In my late forties I got worried about the possible long-term effects of the creams and stopped them cold turkey. There followed the longest, worst series of flare-ups of my life.

      In parallel, from the time I was 22 sex was painful and I suffered frequent yeast infections. No doctor ever mentioned LS. I believe that by my late forties I was starting to atrophy down there. By the time I was diagnosed at age 62 after a ruptured abscess over my clitoris, it was too late for anything but treatment with Dermovate and abstinence from sex.

      Not saying one way or the other about your lichen planus theory, but my excellent gynae says LS and psoriasis are 'related'.

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      hi joey

      i was reading about 'the causes of LS'  in a thread that has a link to it at the start...to me examining the cause of anything is vital. There was a woman darkangel who describes what you had...have a read...it may help...i'd be interested to know as it seems like people have been knocking your confidence...and that you could do without all that. i encourage you to think for yourself about what might be going on and to trust your intuition. can you see a 'talking therapist'....? it sounds like there s a lot of repressed stuff going on...as there is for most of us...but hang out here anyway and comment on any of the threads ....plus there's the alternative site too.  welcome and lots of love to you from liz. xxxx

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    Hi, I've joined this group because I need help!! Back in March I noticed that my parts of my vagina had changed to a grey/white colour, it really worried me so I googled it and Lichen sclerosus sites came up. I also experienced itching, mostly at night and only to the right!? So I went to my GP and she agreed that it looked like LS. She prescribed me a steroid cream and told me to use it twice a day and referred me to a dermatologist.

    I finally got to see the dermatologist Friday just gone. Until then I was basically using the cream everyday as it did help, the colour has returned and the itching has calmed right down. The dermatologist had a look and said she could see no signs of LS and told me to stop using the cream. I stopped and already the itching is starting to return!!

    I'm feeling really scared and alone. All the information I have had been off the internet. I don't know what to do? I'm pretty sure it's LS but I'm worried that I'm using too much cream. Can anyone help me? Thank you!!

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      welcome clair...pitch yourself into the various threads on here am pretty sure you're in the right place xx

      it sounds like the steroid was really working for you...i can't believe i'm saying this as i'm anti steroids but don't stop!! well get a handle on it and then review alternatives perhaps?

      please feel supported and re-assured by coming in and joining a thread or starting one. you could copy and paste the above info that you've written already.

      colour returning is great news !! xx

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    Dr Goldstein sems to recommend soaking the area before applying steroid cream,  but others on this site say otherwise.  What should I do? Soak or Not.?  He also says that because the skin is thickened, it can do no harm to use lots of a steroid cream which might cause skin thinning.  Everyone else and my Gynae say only use a very small amount.  What to do? I'm very confused after several month of being dianosed with this disease.

     

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      Annewin, I don't think he says to use 'lots' of clobetasol. You use a tiny amount (preferably ointment rather than cream) and rub it in well. This is so you don't get excess running onto healthy skin. And you wait awhile after applying before adding oil like coconut, for the same reason. My gynae didn't think pre-soaking was necessary, but not because she was concerned about being wet. She encouraged me to swim in the lak this summer, even said it would be good. She has 1000 LS patients.
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    Hi everyone, Im so glad I found advice here. I was diagnosed today after seeing my gynaecologist, . Im 42 and im still having periods, i have two children and for the last 6 months i thought i had thrush. I tryed everything to get rid of it but it seemed to get worse, i have it around labia and bottom and between the crease of my legs too. because i didnt know what this was, i itched at night and i tryed not to scratch but sometimes i gave in. I had peeling skin and i tryed to pull this skin off which made it all worse! I went to the dr and got fast tracked from Dr as suspected cancerous area. The last two weeks have been a nightmare, not knowing how, why or what was going on! I saw my gynaecologist and she has given me dermovate cream , i have to use everyday for a month and then every other day for a month at the moment. If it doesnt work (she said 2 weeks should show its working) i have to go for a biopsy. I know im younger than normal LS sufferers but surely this isnt unusual? im worried even more now as is this LS or is it something else? any advice is way more than i know!

    Thank you in advance!

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      Emmaw, sounds like you're in good hands. I've had LS for forty years. I had my thighs break out – they were even swollen hard so it was awful to walk. I wasn't diagnosed for several years after that, at age 62. Crazy, eh? Anyway, Dermovate works very gradually, so don't get frustrated if it takes longer than a couple of weeks. Pretty much everyone here has tried and likes baking soda baths, sitz baths and squirt bottles, just as a soothing, healing first aid – supplementary to our prescriptions. Put 1/3 cup baking soda in a tub bath, a Tbsp in a small basin and a pinch in a squirt bottle. When my thighs went bad I ordered big cotton knit pajama pants so my thighs couldn't connect and sweat while I slept. You must not scratch!! Rub your elbow when it itches, to sort of distract your mind. Food grade coconut oil is really good as well. It's like shortening, but it liquefies quickly on warm skin and washes out in the laundry. Very healing and inexpensive. (Expensive as shortening goes, but cheap as special creams go.) Look around on this forum. It's just full of warm and helpful women.
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      Thanks for the reply! I have coconut oil so thats good! good advice about the baking soda, im going to try that. the itching has got better with the cream so far but no difference to the area yet, Looking through the forum a lot of ladies have this and im so glad the support is here. Thanks again Morrell1951 smile
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    Hi.  I'm new to this forum but already just browsing here I've learned more about this lousy condition than I have anywhere else in the past year or so since I was diagnosed. So, thank you!  I'm from the States but it seems that better information is found on sites from other countries, especially Europe.  I wish we were as advanced here! smile

    I figured I'd do the survey since it was easy, but I'll also add my 'basic' symptoms: Severe itching, redness, patchy vulva, atrophy of the labia minor and I fear the clitoris, as well.  No obvious fusion, just atrophy. Just pure discomfort.

    How long have you had a diagnosis of LS? Diagnosed about a year ago

    Do you suspect that you have had this for much longer? Absolutely longer

    Is it currently under control? I thought so until a huge flare up just side lined me this week.

    When did the irritation start? Not sure really.  If I think back, I can remember having issues my entire adult life.

    Has the area always been irritable? Yes.  I feel like I'm always 'aware' of my vagina.

    Are you suffering a flare at the moment? Yes (June 23, 2105)

    If so, can you attribute the cause to anything specific? The only thing I can come up with is the heat and humidity we've been having here lately.

    Do you suspect that other members of your family may have had/have LS? Not a clue.

    Do you have any other skin conditions along with the LS? Yes: psoriasis

    Describe your skin type: Fair but I tan well.

    Do you suffer from an autoimmune disorder e.g. rheumatoid Arthritus/Crohn’s/please add …? Yes.  Psoriasis and Psoriatic Arthritis

    Have you been tested for high cholesterol? Yes. Was a bit high last time it was checked.  It shot up due to a medication I had been on. 

    Do you suffer from high blood pressure? No

    Statins? No

    Diet and exercise? Relatively healthy diet.  Yoga, strength exercises, mild cardio

    Do you suffer from high blood pressure? No

    If so are you being treated for this? n/a

    Do you suffer from low blood pressure? Slightly low

    If so are you being treated for this? N/A

    Do you suffer from anxiety? Yes

    Have you taken steps to reduce your stress? Of course.

    If so what have you done? Yoga, rest, drink heavily wink

    Do you have a flare-up of LS if something is causing you stress? I don't think so.  A flare up causes me stress. 

    Have you had surgery related to LS? No

    Biopsy: No

    Have you experienced other surgery? Nothing related to this.

    Episiotomy: No

    Please list any of the prescribed topical creams you use currently:Clobetasol

    Emollients: None

    Barrier creams: None

    Alternative treatments: None

    What sort of products do you avoid when cleaning the area? I only use water.

    When do you wash? In the morning.

    How do you dry yourself? Blow dry or pat dry with a clean paper towel.

    Do you wash in hot or cold water? Warm

    Do you dread having a poo? No What happens? N/A

    Does pee sting you? No What do you do about it? N/A

    What can you no longer wear? Tight jeans. I don't wear underwear to sleep, either.

    What do you now wear? Yoga pants (tight, I know, but not as harsh as jeans), cotton pants, skirts, loose cotton pants or nightgowns to bed.

    Do any foods seem to make the LS worse? I don't think so.

    Is this discomfort on already damaged skin? Atrophied skin.

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    I was just diagnosed with LS today. I'm very upset and scared. I am 44 and have been having itching for years already. The stories of fusing, no sex just traumatize me. Is this what I have to look forward to? Have the white patches both sides of clitoris and skin showing some damage. Also, the potential of cancer is sobering.
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      Sandra, glad you found us. First of all, diagnosis and regular checkups have already pretty much eliminated the possibility of cancer. The small percentage of women who get it are mostly neglected cases, never diagnosed, never treated. Please do watch Dr. Goldstein's presentation (linked above). Then hang out for the excellent support you'll find here. We have plenty of things we do besides using our prescribed cream/ointment properly. Stress is our enemy, so the sooner you can take control and take comfort in having other sufferers to talk to about this embrarrasssing, invisible disorder, the better.
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      Thank you so much. I noticed the caring attitude for each other. Helps to know I am not the only one suffering from this. I keep seeing this link to stress. I hope I can soon relax a little more. Today was just really hard. And I do plan to watch Dr Goldstein's presentation. I wish I knew the cause of it in my case. Have been borderline hypothyroidism but never bad enough for treatment. So glad I found this forum.
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      I was left with many questions and once my Gyno diagnosed me, he made a few comments and scribbled the prescription. Seemed to want to get me out of there after dropping the bomb.

      I did ask him about the fact that I read of women who can't have sex anymore. He told me not to read those blogs. Those are worst case and present about 1% of women with LS.

      I am devastated to think of not being able to share that with my husband of 23 years. So far have no pain with sex. But my clitoris itches and its on both sides of it.

      I'm sorry. I'm just so disturbed by this all.

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      It works slowly. I didn't see much improvement for the first six months. I am really good now and even ready to try sex again, after two years. But you hardly have any symptoms. As long as you refrain from sex when you're already uncomfortable (not just a bit itchy) you should be fine. I was just reading stuff on the website of the company that makes Yes! lubricant, which many women on here swear by, but is now unavailable where I got it six years ago. It mentioned that sex can start yeast infections. I know that too well from decades of experience. So my plan if my new friend and I wind up in the sack, is to use a lot of coconut oil softened with a little vegetable oil as a lubricant on both of us and if I have even the slightest burning the next day, I'll apply some Canestan cream (internally and externally, just a peanut-size glob) to nip any sprouting yeast in the bud. And not have sex right away the next day! This is only me talking, nothing official, but I'm quite optimistic. Should my perineum tear, as it always did, I'll use my prescription ointment there daily until it heals and give it an extra day before trying sex again. This happened from stress a few days ago and it healed smooth in two days. The tear is very shallow compared with all the years I went undiagnosed and untreated and I grinned and bore painful sex.

       

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      Again, so encouraging. I could cry at all the encouragement I've gotten on here!

      it doesn't look near as overwhelming as it did when I was googling the disease and read all the nightmare stories and saw the devastating photos. My support people are saying to stop getting info off the web. This forum seems very balanced.

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      Stop looking at those photos! My sister is a nurse and she sees very old ladies that look like that. Obviously long neglected, never diagnosed, did all the wrong things for decades...

      And here's something: a tear isn't always a bad thing. I had a tiny one a few weeks ago – it was an adhesion I released by strteching my introitus. And here I'd been thinking I was down to barely two fingers! Now I'm three plus fingers. There's something to be said for regular sex.

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      Morelle, you are so sweet! 😃 you are helping me so much! Thank you thank you!

      And I did stop looking at those photos! They are way too disturbing! I am working hard to overcome my anxiety. I realize positive thinking is so helpful toward healing. And things are settling down. Not as much itching, burning has stopped (for now).

      Wow! That was a long time to have the disease undiagnosed! So you didn't treat it till you were in your 60s? Did it get worse in menopause? I'm still getting regular periods.

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