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Below are various resources for Lichen Sclerosus from leaflets to useful web sites and recommended discussions. You may wish to reply to this discussion as a way of introducing yourself to other forum members and giving a brief history of your situation.

There is a patient leaflet on LS here which also has related tabs with more information, support groups etc.

https://patient.info/health/lichen-sclerosus-leaflet

Below are other useful websites:

http://www.lichensclerosus.net/ - Information to help manage LS

http://www.lichensclerosustreatment.com/ - webinar from Dr Goldstein. Lichen Sclerosus The Unspoken Pain

http://caredownthere.com.au/ CareDownThere is written by a team of Australian Health Professionals with special expertise in treating vulval disease.

http://lichensclerosus.org/ The Association for Lichen Sclerosus and Vulval Health

Includes a page of Men only discussion - http://lichensclerosus.org/men-only-2/

http://www.bssvd.org/ British Society for the Study of Vulval Disease

This includes a "Find a clinic" service. The full list is here:http://www.bssvd.org/images/stories/documents/database%20of%20members%20of%20vulval%20service%20edited.pdf

Discussion on users' thoughts on causes of LS

https://patient.info/forums/discuss/causes-of-lichen-sclerosus--271583

Other discussion groups that may have relevant discussions to LS:

https://patient.info/forums/discuss/browse/alternative-and-complementary-medicine-3763

https://patient.info/forums/discuss/browse/autoimmune-disorders-3827

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    Just diagnosed after weeks of Thrush treatment.   Dermovate showing improvement.  Before skin infection I went to Aquarobics twice a week .  any reason I should not get back to the class as it was a major part of my slimming/get fit plan.  I have lost 10K since the New Year
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      We've had discussions about chlorinated public pools. I wouldn't do it, but if its important, plastter gobs of Vaseline on before you go in and get out of your wet suit ASAP.
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    I am a 20 yr old who was diagnosed a few months ago, I'm at a fairly stressful period in life; with flat moves , in my last year of university and holding down two jobs. I was given very little information in helping flare ups, and none on sexual relations. I have a very understanding partner but I feel my doctor was unwilling to give me advice on how to look after my skin, and how to have a normal 20yr olds relationship. Any advice would be so greatly appreciated as I seem to be getting horrib,e flare ups every few months 
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      Hi Hojo,

      I was about your age when my LS began, but that's hindsight. I was diagnosed at age 61! Do watched Dr. Goldstein's presentation (linked above) and my main advice is don't have high-friction sex when you're at all uncomfortable. Period. I had many long periods of remission, lots of great sex way into my forties and again in my late fifties. I had two natural childbirths. If I could go back knowing what I know now I would be very careful how much sugar I ate and I wouldn't do the pretty heavy drinking I did for years at a time, different periods. And I wouldn't grin and bear it during what for me was painful sex!

      This forum is full of support and good advice. The two nuggets almost everyone agrees on are: use coconut oil from the health food store to stay moisturized (but if you're sensitive to coconut oil, Vaseline is really just fine), and rinse the area with water and a little baking soda. The baking soda is good old-fashioned first aid, not magic and more is not better. 1/3 cup in a bath, 1 tbsp in a basin (I squat and splash), a pinch in a squirt bottle.

      Be aware that yeast and LS have a relationship that can get into a downward spiral. The friction of sex can stir up yeast, especially in an environment of sugar consumption and a stressful life. I keep a tube of Canesten (over-the counter 7 day yeast treatment) and use a small amount topically and just inside my vagina if I suspect yeast might be getting started.

      And don't use soap down there! They talk about Hydromol, an emollient cleanser (I think it's really a runny version of Vaseline), so if you need to do more than wash with water, there's that.

      Cotton panties and loose trousers when you're flared up...

      That should do it. Do start a discussion stating your youth – the majority of us here are post-menopausal (I'm an oddball lifer) but we do get lots of young women. That's the best way to quickly find other young women to share support with.

      Sorry you're one of us, but glad you found us! We have the supplementary LS care info doctors don't have time to talk about.

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      Thank you so much for all that information! It's great to hear it from people that have been through it and it isn't just someone speculating what you feel. My partner is very understanding and I really avoid it while it's painful. I didn't know about sugar and alcohol so I will keep that in mind!

      Honestly this has made me feel so much better finding this forum!! Thank you

    • Posted

      So glad! The worst stressor is when we freak out after diagnosis. It gets easy after that. Bottom line – there are much worse things that can go chronically wrong with our bodies.
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    Hi there, I have not yet had a formal diagnosis but am pretty sure this is what i have been suffering from for some time now. The skin on my vulva seems to get very sore for no reason, and sex or slight pulling (e.g. when wiping after using the toilet) can cause fissures in the skin, often with slight bleeding. I had a massive flare-up this week after using intimite hygene wipes (I won't be doing that again!) I know I have to go to the doctor but am a bit scared of what the biopsy will involve. I am 49 and a bit down at having found out I have a condition (rather than keep thinking that each episode was a one-off that would pass!). I have just ordered Emu Oil as that seems to have helped a number of people. Thanks in advance for any advice and support! 
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      Oh, Jan, do go to the doctor. Many of us were diagnosed without a biopsy at all. Your condition sounds classic, very likely to be diagnosed with a look by a gynaecologist or dermatologist (even better if your GP can find you a vulva specialist). Most women with LS got it around or after meopause. Some of us got it early (I was 22 – I'm 63 now). There are much worse things and the sooner you start treating it the better. Watch Dr. Goldstein's presentation, linked at the top here.

      You've come to the right place. Those wipes are BAD. Even soap. Just use plain water, or with a bit of baking soda in it (more is not better!) Watch your sugar intake and try not to freak out – stress is the worst thing of all for LS, as you may have figured out).

  • Posted

    Thanks very much for your reply, and yes I will go to the doctor :-)!  I already feel more in control knowing what is wrong with me, and being able to take all the preventative action. Thanks again, great to be here! 
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    New to this site and have NEVER been on any site prior. I know I have LS but each time I see a gyno they tell me herpes. Everything I have read on herpes and LS - its LS THAT IS SPOT ON TO ALL MY SYMPTOMS. thank goodness I am given the steroid cream.. I have been fighting this for over 15 years and was elated to finally have a diagnoisis only to keep being told differently even with a biopsy. The dr also gave me Valtrex. ny suggestions or helpful information would be greatly appreciated. I have watched the video and again EVERYTHING regarding LS is exactly what i am going through. 
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      My first diagnosis at age 22 was herpes. After that I never had a herpes blister down there again, but always tore along the perineum and had soreness and later had white patches, atrophy and fusing. (I was finally diagnosed with LS at 61.) I believe there's a connection. They still don't know what causes LS. I'm trying to say it isn't either/or. If you were biopsied and only tested for herpes, and were positive, that doesn't eliminate LS. The test of the sample for LS isn't like just identifying a virus – they look at a cross-section of the sample for the characteristics of the various layers. If you'd been treating it with steroid cream for some time before the biopsy, then the symptoms would be suppressed and LS wouldn't be apparent. Maybe you should try to find a vulvar specialist, a dermatologist.

      Anyway, once you have a diagnosis, you get the prescription and you're pretty much on your own, which is why we're all here – sharing tips on things we can do to soothe and prevent flare-ups.

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      Is the prescription the steroid cream? Thank you! Your post has made the most sense to me. I have never had a herpes blister. I may have it - but never had a symptom. I have been using the steroid cream since i was 27 and am 47 now (guess i have been dealing with this longer than 15 years). 
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    Hi I got diagnosed a couple of months ago after a year of trying to get seen by a specialist. The creams and steriods don't seem to be working and the fissures are getting to about 3cm/5cm at a time. It starting to affect my activity, my sleeping and my sexual relationships with my bf. I'm only 21 and I find that the doctors don't listen to me and whenever I go they just tell me I mustn't be using the creams correctly and that as I'm young the sexual aspect and sleep aspect isn't too much of a problem. But to me it is and it's really getting me down. What should I do?
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      Hi hojo, I got LS when I was your age and just continued having painful sex and constant fissures until by the time I was 29 I was deeply resentful and depressed. I think I lost touch with the difference between pain and pleasure at some point. I'm 61 now, have two grown kids, had great sex for years at a time, I guess when LS was in remission. By now I see myself as basically allergic to sex. As long as I don't have sex, no friction, no bodily fluids, then my LS is calm and clear. If I had my life to live over I would like to have had a diagnosis and the steroid ointment when I was young, not at 61. Bottom line, if you keep trying to behave as if you don't have a problem, it will stay flared up.
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      Thank you for the advice and I am sorry that that is how you feel. The thing is I have stopped having sex since my diagnosis in January and have tried everything to reduce the flare ups. But when I go back to the doctors I am brushed off as young and unimportant...
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      That really sucks, hojo. All I can say is my vulva were in an awful state like yours when I was finally diagnosed, like yours. And it really did take most of two years for it to settle down. Its been a few months since my last tear and I still have white skin. Good for you avoiding sex. I become frustrated reading about women using lidocaine.

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