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Below are various resources for Lichen Sclerosus from leaflets to useful web sites and recommended discussions. You may wish to reply to this discussion as a way of introducing yourself to other forum members and giving a brief history of your situation.

There is a patient leaflet on LS here which also has related tabs with more information, support groups etc.

https://patient.info/health/lichen-sclerosus-leaflet

Below are other useful websites:

http://www.lichensclerosus.net/ - Information to help manage LS

http://www.lichensclerosustreatment.com/ - webinar from Dr Goldstein. Lichen Sclerosus The Unspoken Pain

http://caredownthere.com.au/ CareDownThere is written by a team of Australian Health Professionals with special expertise in treating vulval disease.

http://lichensclerosus.org/ The Association for Lichen Sclerosus and Vulval Health

Includes a page of Men only discussion - http://lichensclerosus.org/men-only-2/

http://www.bssvd.org/ British Society for the Study of Vulval Disease

This includes a "Find a clinic" service. The full list is here:http://www.bssvd.org/images/stories/documents/database%20of%20members%20of%20vulval%20service%20edited.pdf

Discussion on users' thoughts on causes of LS

https://patient.info/forums/discuss/causes-of-lichen-sclerosus--271583

Other discussion groups that may have relevant discussions to LS:

https://patient.info/forums/discuss/browse/alternative-and-complementary-medicine-3763

https://patient.info/forums/discuss/browse/autoimmune-disorders-3827

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    How long have you had a diagnosis of LS? 2yrs

    Age 34

    Do you suspect that you have had this for much longer? Yes several years before diagnosis

    Is it currently under control? No, hasn't been controlled since before i was diagnosed

    When did the irritation start? 25?

    Has the area always been irritable? Yes

    Are you suffering a flare at the moment? Yes (Nov 15)

    If so, can you attribute the cause to anything specific? No - although I've found a lump in the affected area

    Do you suspect that other members of your family may have had/have LS? Yes, paternal auntie

    Do you have any other skin conditions along with the LS? No

    Describe your skin type: Light skinned

    Do you suffer from an autoimmune disorder: currently being reviewed by specialist to rule out

    Have you been tested for high cholesterol? No

    Do you suffer from high blood pressure? No

    Statins? No

    Diet and exercise? Over weight but healthy

    Do you suffer from high blood pressure? No

    If so are you being treated for this? N/A

    Do you suffer from low blood pressure? No

    If so are you being treated for this? N/A

    Do you suffer from anxiety? No

    Have you taken steps to reduce your stress? N/A

    If so what have you done?

    Do you have a flare-up of LS if something is causing you stress? Yes

    Have you had surgery related to LS? No

    Biopsy: Yes, 4 vulva biopsies

    Have you experienced other surgery? No

    Episiotomy: No

    Please list any of the prescribed topical creams you use currently

    Dermovate

    Emollients

    Barrier creams: no

    Alternative treatments: none

    What sort of products do you avoid when cleaning the area? Soap, scents

    When do you wash? First thing in morning & Before bed - if flare up then after work too

    How do you dry yourself? Gently towel

    Do you wash in hot or cold water? Warm

    Do you dread having a poo? Yes What happens? Pain & bleeding followed by stinging & itchiness

    Does pee sting you? Yes What do you do about it? Steer the flow of urine

    What can you no longer wear? Tight pants, tight jeans

    What do you now wear? Loose cotton panties, loose trousers (looser at home)

    Do any foods seem to make the LS worse? None

    Is this discomfort on already damaged skin? Yes, makes the area around the anus red and sore/itchy

    I also have confirmed LS on my chest & sporadically throughout my upper torso

    Currently miserable & attending specialists appts every 3 month due to severity

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      Gee, well I'm glad you found us. Since sampleremix posted the other day that her doctor says patients who moisturise after every toilet visit do better, now I'm rinsing at least my perineum with wet TP, patting dry and applying coconut oil after ever pee and poo. So good to believe there's something we can do!
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    WOW you have done a lot of research.   I had itching till I nearly did my head in, in Spain you don't get medication for this complaint so I have had to try a few things to work, no sugar, being careful what I eat. etc. etc.

    I am saying you don't get medication for this complaint, there are some ailments that the dr gives you a prescription but from then on you pay for it yourseves. So.... my one and only prescription was for Vagifen but cream.   When i went to the chemist for the same thing, she asked had I tried the tablets where you insert 2 a week.  So.... I know they are expensive but you probably in the UK get a continued prescription for Vagifem.  But here they are 9€ a box.  They work.  So far I dropped it down to 1 a week and I am so so glad it works. No itching now for 2/3 months,

     

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    I don't know what i had but I wasn't treated very well in the UK, the doctor kept on looking at intervals and couldn't say and there was no comment forthcoming. she gave me lots of different creams over the years when I was going ballistic with the itch,  none of them worked.   Unless you have had the itch, you can't explain to anyone how horrible it is.   no matter how clean I was, what I ate or drank etc. etc  I itched like hell  with whatever cream i had been prescribed at the time and it would go away in 3 days. but just came back.   I could go to the bathroom and get a piece of toilet paper and scratch the itch so that I was red roar.  The doctors are simply rubbish in the UK (as I have found out with 3 herniated discs)    And.... I have had it for years -probably well over 10 years  I suffered on and off and given different creams that i eventually gave up going to the doctors.   it was only in Spain that I was prescribed Vagifem pessaries and it eventually has worked  I am absolutely estatic.  I also thought it was man made fibre pants - everything went through my mind.

    Pensioners here have to part pay their prescriptions but this medication is not even on part payment. You try and then have to buy it yourself. Yet i was down in Vit D and they gave me it like it was coming out of my ears.  I haven't a clue why this particular medication is not on the list for part payment. Once and thats it, if it works, you have to buy it yourself.

    I can't think how you take it at the beginning, its very expensive to begin with -  something like 9€ a box and although it says 2 a week maintenance I have tried 1 a week and so far so good. When you think of 9€ into English pounds, its not bad at all. Thats what i keep on reminding myself lol. .  I have to say that I did miss one week and I just had a ting of an itch but it did go almost immediately once I took my pill.   I have gone through 2 boxes now continually. I haven't a clue what the doctor in spain said as a translator came with me -  it was because she speaks Valenciano but anyway it works.   Symptoms: Severe itching, redness, itchy vulva,  labia  clitoris, and actually inside as well I was red roar - I could feel the soreness inside me  because I actually thought it was something to do with a dropped womb cancer or something like that. You know how it is all sorts of things go through your mind.I also thought i had diabetes 

    I didn't have any fusion, and to be quite honest I have been in tears because the itching was so bad. I'm 72 and remember when I first noticed that i had it and I had sat most of the day in a damp swimming costume on a beach in Greece.  Thats all I can tell you, sorry I'm sorry but I am trying to type quickly as I have 3 herniated discs and my back aches.

    I hope that my story helps, and I would say go for it Vagifem is available in the UK but not the cream.  You can use the cream as a supplement but not as a one treatment.

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    Thank you so much, learning more and more every hour. I love women supporting women. I am 57 and menopausal. Have had itching for over a year, but blamed it on an external hemorroid, that looks ulcerated. Had my colonoscopy a few months ago and all was good. Saw my GYN in June, all was good. No one commented on the hemmorroid. I have been using a tube of 1% hydrocortisone on it. This past month while vacationing is when the itching became more than i could handle. Took a mirror and looked and was shocked to see 2 white spots on either cheek of my buttocks, extending to the hemmorroid. Saw my GYN again last week who biopsied it, called me this am with the definitive diagnosis.. Am to start betamethasone tomorrow. Pharmacy had to order it. ARRGGHHHH!
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    I cannot believe my luck in finding this site. Long story short - and brutally honest - I was sexually abused as a young child. I had PID before i got pregnant the first time. First marriage was a nightmare repeat of my childhood. Second marriage we celebrated 28 years this last September. We have five kids so that's five episiotomies and and an additional surgery to repair a bleeder they missed with the first birth. Never had a normal pap smear and was told during my fourth pregnancy I had cervical cancer but then that I didn't. Finally a hysterectomy in 2005 after years of fearing I was going to bleed to death during my periods. Sex has never been high on my priority list but my husband has been super understanding given my history and the fact that even with a good lubricant sex has been horribly painful for all of my adult life. So I ask myself how long I have actually had LS and why did it take me so long to find this group and realize I'm not losing my mind. Sorry if itTMI but I know that if I don't throw it all out there at once I won't be brave enough to put it out there in bits and pieces.
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      Thanks, Vicky. Anywhere but here that would be a jaw-dropping story. I've had LS all my life and have long wondered about my mother's aggressive toilet training methods. In a world where so much value is placed on sex, it's hard to make sense of our lives. I once used the phrase 'bad sex' to a friend and she looked at me like that was an oxymoron. In late life my aspiration is to be itch-free, able to pee easily and not get cancer. Thanks to my four decades-late diagnosis I'm extremely optimistic. But sex for me? Fuggedaboudit.
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      Its amazing how we can pare it down to the basics. I long for a day where I can forget to think before I shift position while sitting in a chair.
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      That day will come pretty soon. I used to have to stand up and pull my pants out of my crotch all the time – while watching TV, while visiting. What did people think I was doing? I don't care.
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      Ha Morrell. Good on you!

      Funny thing, was reading a celebrity story and came across a picture and story of a famous actress with hand down pants pulling away her knicker crotch while in the street. All the usual accompanying gross comments from the idiots about how awful she was and how disgusting blah blah. My thought was 'bet that poor woman has LS' 

      I mean, maybe she didn't, who knows, but boy did I have empathy for her!

      I also remember a little girl who played with my daughter 30 years ago and how she was always tugging at her crotch and pulling the fabric away and how I got concerned and thought about talking to her mum about maybe thrush, (never heard of LS then of course) but I never did. So hard to have conversations like that cos it sounds so judgy. But now I think back and wonder ....

      Welcome Vicky, and good luck finding that comfortable position, and more besides! 

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      Amazing what we notice now and realize that it could be something besides an annoying habit. Loose lounge pants are my favorite now.
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      Yep. Readjust on a regular basis. Have to just smile at some of the expressions.
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    LS drove me mad, i think i may have got it through sitting all day in a wet swimsuit as I have had it for 20 years. I can honestly say that I was so sore and pain  I went to the drs and she suggested that I may be losing elasticity as I was that age!!! The medication is not on prescription in Spain so paid the 10€ for a box. It didn't work but it did reduce the itch.

    Many more months went on and to get rid of it altogether I bought a box and instead of using the full recommended dose and halved it and so far have taken it now for 4 months and not an itch or soreness in sight.  I am so relieved  Vagifem I think is on prescription in the UK.  The dose I started on was 2 a week and then I reduced to 1 a week.  Fantastic

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    Hi I've just been diagnosed and am feeling extremely vulnerable... With hindsight, this gas been with me for sometime. Any help/advice appreciated
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      There is a particular vulnerability to this disease. Read through the threads on here and you will learn lots of tips to relieve symptoms. There's great support on here; lots of lovely caring ladies. I was diagnosed about 6 months ago but I believe I had it since I was a teen. (45 years old now).

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      Hi Denise,

      Sorry you're one of us, but glad you found us. LS was 'discovered' in the nineteenth century, but because women tend to feel too embarrassed to mention the symptoms to their doctors we often fall through the cracks. I've had it for 40-odd years and self-diagnosed maybe eight years ago and decided it was just a Thing and ignored it. When my clitoris blew up in an abcsess I went to Emergency where the physician noticed my 'atrophy' and sent me to a gynaecologist who just happened to have 1000 LS patients. The rest is history. I'm being treated and checked regularly so I'm optimistic that I'll be able to pee when I'm really old and I won't get vulvar cancer. In the unlikely instnace that I ever want to have sex again I now know it has to be gentle and it can't be when I'm already flared up.

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